Barack Obama Continues to Disdain Space Exploration

On Apr 22, 7:50 am, " wrote:
This is from a conservative site, and therefore has a certain angle on
it from the start.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/..._for_nasa.html

If any of it is true, I can't imagine why any space enthusiast or
space-industry worker would want Obama as president.

Yes, especially when it hits their pocketbook.
I remember how the space scientists here at JPL howled when Bush cut
the NASA science budget.

On Apr 22, 9:54 am, "
wrote:
On Apr 22, 7:50 am, " wrote:

This is from a conservative site, and therefore has a certain angle on
it from the start.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/..._for_nasa.html

If any of it is true, I can't imagine why any space enthusiast or
space-industry worker would want Obama as president.

Yes, especially when it hits their pocketbook.
I remember how the space scientists here at JPL howled when Bush cut
the NASA science budget.

Slightly off topic, but wasn't that part about federalizing pre-
schools nice? Didn't Hitler say if he got them young they'd be his for
life?
http://www.teesnthings.com/ProductIm...-tee-shirt.jpg

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:59:35 -0700 (PDT), eyeball
wrote, perhaps among other things:

On Apr 22, 9:54 am, "
wrote:
On Apr 22, 7:50 am, " wrote:

This is from a conservative site, and therefore has a certain angle on
it from the start.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/..._for_nasa.html

If any of it is true, I can't imagine why any space enthusiast or
space-industry worker would want Obama as president.

Yes, especially when it hits their pocketbook.
I remember how the space scientists here at JPL howled when Bush cut
the NASA science budget.

Slightly off topic, but wasn't that part about federalizing pre-
schools nice? Didn't Hitler say if he got them young they'd be his for
life?
http://www.teesnthings.com/ProductIm...-tee-shirt.jpg

I thought that was the Jesuits.
--

"Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell."
-- Ed Abbey

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:52:01 -0700, in a place far, far away, Paul L.
Madarasz made the phosphor on my monitor glow in
such a way as to indicate that:

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:59:35 -0700 (PDT), eyeball
wrote, perhaps among other things:

On Apr 22, 9:54 am, "
wrote:
On Apr 22, 7:50 am, " wrote:

This is from a conservative site, and therefore has a certain angle on
it from the start.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/..._for_nasa.html

If any of it is true, I can't imagine why any space enthusiast or
space-industry worker would want Obama as president.

Yes, especially when it hits their pocketbook.
I remember how the space scientists here at JPL howled when Bush cut
the NASA science budget.

Slightly off topic, but wasn't that part about federalizing pre-
schools nice? Didn't Hitler say if he got them young they'd be his for
life?
http://www.teesnthings.com/ProductIm...-tee-shirt.jpg

I thought that was the Jesuits.

Same idea.

"Rand Simberg" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:52:01 -0700, in a place far, far away, Paul L.
Madarasz made the phosphor on my monitor glow in
such a way as to indicate that:

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:59:35 -0700 (PDT), eyeball
wrote, perhaps among other things:
Slightly off topic, but wasn't that part about federalizing pre-
schools nice? Didn't Hitler say if he got them young they'd be his for
life?
http://www.teesnthings.com/ProductIm...-tee-shirt.jpg

I thought that was the Jesuits.

Same idea.

Mc Donald's has been very successful with this approach as well. Get the
kids hooked on Happy Meals when they're in pre-school and you have a
customer for life.

Jeff
--
A clever person solves a problem.
A wise person avoids it. -- Einstein

On Apr 21, 12:29*pm, Michael Gallagher wrote:
On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:09:47 -0700 (PDT), Eric Chomko

wrote:
You cannot assumed that had SEI gone forward that we'd have anything
worthwhile from it ....

True .... but then by the same token, no one can say NOTHING would
have come of it, either. *We simply don't know. *Nor can anyone accuse
the Bushes of doing VSE and SEI simply to get money for Texas without
backing that up with hard evidence to that effect, such as they
actually told someone that and the quote is verifiable. *A Wikepedia
graphic of NASA grants doesn't count. *

Yet, nothing has come of either SEI and VSE and Texas continues to get
paid for the latter at least.


...... any
more that we have made progress with W's VSE ....

???? *And what did you expect after four years? *Orion isn't supposed
to have a manned flight until 2015. *So what was supposed to have
happened by '08? *If anything? *

You tell me! Should we have NOTHING after four years? Shouldn't we
have some sort of real metric of success? It will take a non-Texas
politician to get them to show results as the Bushes didn't care.
Which was my very point.


..... *As it stands right now,
it is very clear
that the next administration will actually shape VSE if it is really
going to happen.

EXACTLY!

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:50:26 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/..._for_nasa.html

If any of it is true, I can't imagine why any space enthusiast or
space-industry worker would want Obama as president.


Well, it's true in that there's nothing new here. Obama's education
policy came out months ago; supposedly, other documents came out to
"clarify" his position, that he would build Orion on shedule but delay
the lunar and Mars missions parts of Constellation.

I've said many times it would help if Obama had his space policy
spelled out in no uncertain terms on his web site, but to date, no
policy has appeared there. Documents have been released purported to
be from his campaign, but without copies on his web site, they have
the whiff of plausible deniability about them -- assuming they are
genunine. And so we are left to speculate based on what tidbits we
can get about a candidate who has raised being vague to an art form.



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On Apr 24, 8:32 am, Michael Gallagher wrote:
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:50:26 -0700 (PDT), "

wrote:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/..._for_nasa.html

If any of it is true, I can't imagine why any space enthusiast or
space-industry worker would want Obama as president.

Well, it's true in that there's nothing new here. Obama's education
policy came out months ago; supposedly, other documents came out to
"clarify" his position, that he would build Orion on shedule but delay
the lunar and Mars missions parts of Constellation.

I've said many times it would help if Obama had his space policy
spelled out in no uncertain terms on his web site, but to date, no
policy has appeared there. Documents have been released purported to
be from his campaign, but without copies on his web site, they have
the whiff of plausible deniability about them -- assuming they are
genunine. And so we are left to speculate based on what tidbits we
can get about a candidate who has raised being vague to an art form.

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How many of our hard earned public trillions spent on space
exploration would make you a happy camper?

How much spendier would you make energy, food, housing, education and
medical care, in order to pay for those trillions upon trillions?

Would you support WWIII (if need be with your own life) in order to
invest such trillions into what's mostly of off-world inert eye-
candy?
.. - Brad Guth

Michael Gallagher wrote:

I've said many times it would help if Obama had his space policy
spelled out in no uncertain terms on his web site... And so we are
left to speculate based on what tidbits we
can get about a candidate who has raised being vague to an art form.

As distinguished from all the other candidates of all parties over the
last 40 years, who have set forth comprehensive and detailed space
policies.

Monte Davis
http://montedavis.livejournal.com/

On Apr 25, 2:36 am, Monte Davis wrote:
Michael Gallagher wrote:
I've said many times it would help if Obama had his space policy
spelled out in no uncertain terms on his web site... And so we are
left to speculate based on what tidbits we
can get about a candidate who has raised being vague to an art form.

As distinguished from all the other candidates of all parties over the
last 40 years, who have set forth comprehensive and detailed space
policies.

Monte Davishttp://montedavis.livejournal.com/

How many of our hard earned public trillions, if otherwise spent on
space exploration, would make you a happy camper?

How much spendier would you care to make energy, food, housing,
education and medical care, in order to pay for those trillions upon
trillions?

Would you support WWIII (if need be with your own life) in order to
invest such public trillions into what's mostly of off-world inert
eye-
candy?
.. - Brad Guth