What Science is ISS Giving Us?

(bob haller) wrote:

Your conclusion doesn't follow from your premises. Other possible
conclusions a

a) the previous research was valuable, but not sustainable in current
environment
b) the previous research was valuable, but does not support revised
goals
c) the previous research was valuable, but the PI's lost political
power
d) the previous research was valuable, but the PI's retired
e) the previous research was valuable, but follow-on experiments will
not be ready for some time.

Additional information, not included in your post, is required to
select from the 6 conclusions.

/dps


You neglected to mention the research had little value and had been done
repeatedly on MIR.

That could be considered part or your original post; I was merely
pointing out that alternate conclusions are still possible.

Is it clear that all the science done on ISS has been done previously
on MIR? I know that several experiments were based on work started on
shuttle flights, but there would seem to be a third category of "not
done on Mir and not completeable on Shuttle", and IIRC that category
is non-empty.

Of course, the most famous MIR experiments are ones that I don't want
to see repeated just yet: depressurization dynamics and 0-g open
flame dynamics.

/dps

(Derek Lyons) wrote in message ...
(Richard Alexander) wrote:
Which, leads me to my question: What value are we getting from ISS?

Which leads me to my question: Would you move into a house before the
foundation is cured, and bitch about the lack of a roof?

That did not save the Superconducting Supercollider.

That did not save the Superconducting Supercollider.


what use if any did they find for the underground bunkers and tunnels that were
already built when they pulled the pin on the project?
HAVE A GREAT DAY!

(Richard Alexander) wrote in message . com...
I see that the Mars rover missions got their 2nd 6-month extension
today. That's great news, because it is far less expensive and much
safer to use the rovers already on Mars than to send rovers to Mars,
and we have been getting great science data from the rovers. At $835
million, we are certainly getting a great deal out of the rovers.
Which, leads me to my question: What value are we getting from ISS?

We began working on ISS several years ago; technically, it grew out of
Space Station "Freedom," after the U.S.-only station seemed too
expensive to Congress. ISS almost got the budget ax many times,
particularly around 1996, but public outcry kept it alive. Now, we
have a budget of over a billion dollars a year to keep ISS alive. What
is it giving us? What is it likely ever to give us, apart from a very
expensive streak in the sky?

But if a robot had climbed Mount Everest instead of Sir Edmund Hilary,
it just wouldn't have been the same.
--
Gene Seibel
Space Ship One - http://pad39a.com/gene/ss1.html
Because I fly, I envy no one - except Mike Melvill.

(Richard Alexander) wrote:

(Derek Lyons) wrote:

(Richard Alexander) wrote:
Which, leads me to my question: What value are we getting from ISS?

Which leads me to my question: Would you move into a house before the
foundation is cured, and bitch about the lack of a roof?

That did not save the Superconducting Supercollider.

Which precisely has what to do with the question being asked? SCSC,
at cancellation, did not even have the 'foundation' laid.

D.
--
Touch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh.

Which precisely has what to do with the question being asked? SCSC,
at cancellation, did not even have the 'foundation' laid.

Ahh the tunnels were well along concrete poured, they had pictures on Tv
HAVE A GREAT DAY!

(bob haller) wrote in message ...

That did not save the Superconducting Supercollider.

what use if any did they find for the underground bunkers and tunnels
that were already built when they pulled the pin on the project?

I paid a visit to the SSC about 2 years ago, to see what had become of
it. I found that a small, auxiliary accelerator and its support
buildings had been sold to a research company. The primary SSC
buildings were either used for storage or were vacant (I gained
entrance to the primary building; it was filled with boxes of
styrofoam cups and lunch containers) and were for sale. I was informed
that all the shafts and tunnels had been backfilled with rocks and
sealed.

(Gene Seibel) wrote in message . com...

[snip]

But if a robot had climbed Mount Everest instead of Sir Edmund Hilary,
it just wouldn't have been the same.

I don't regard a 400 km LEO in 2004 to be the space travel equivalent
of Mount Everest.