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"Martin Frey" wrote in message ... "Roger Smith" wrote: Do you really have to impose this on us? Regards, Roger Sorry - but I am really intrigued that someone can hold view with (I credit him) some passion yet be so wrong and so unwilling to face reality. He will continue posting without me - have no fear - whenever a thread gets uncomfortable he starts a new one. Kill file both of us if it gets on your tits - we seem to keep the same identities unlike the dreaded M*n. Cheers Martin -- Martin Frey http://www.hadastro.org.uk N 51 02 E 0 47 Martin I killfiled him but I am loathe to killfile everybody who quotes his inane messages. The trouble for you is that he won't reply if you respond in private! You won't win the argument, anyway. :-) Regards, Roger |
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Martin Frey wrote:
"Roger Smith" wrote: Do you really have to impose this on us? ... Kill file both of us if it gets on your tits Done {Plonk} -- Graham W http://www.gcw.org.uk/ PGM-FI page updated, Graphics Tutorial WIMBORNE http://www.wessex-astro-society.freeserve.co.uk/ Wessex Dorset UK Astro Society's Web pages, Info, Meeting Dates, Sites & Maps Change 'news' to 'sewn' in my Reply address to avoid my spam filter. |
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absence wrote: On 4 Mar 2005 12:22:00 -0800, wrote: bilge-water The astronomical alignment at the Equinox is far too wonderful to ignore but all cataloguers are concerned with is climatic seasonal variations or the orientation of the Sun at 90 degrees to the polar axis. Making a statement does not make it true! snip bilge http://ovt.irfu.se/releases/current/img/elpot_large.gif Unless you are interested in making a weather prediction for the Northern hemisphere for the next 6 months and passing it off as astronomy the real astronomical significance of the alignment of orbital longitudes with axial longitudes only really surfaces in the really difficult task of creating a new system of coordinates based on the solar system's motion around the Milky Way axis. Cataloguers are content to retain the celestial sphere and the equatorial orientation coordinates which designates an apparent motion of the Sun at 90 degrees to the polar axis but as I have said time and again,cataloguers in the 17th and 18th century were really only interested in deriving terrestial longitude coordinates from celestial positions rather than modelling astronomical motions. Again,I am currently the one person on the planet who can enjoy the astronomical significance of the upcoming Equinox,what can you do but offer a rough climatic prediction for the next 6 months. You really are big-headed! You exclude billions of people to whom you have never spoken and identify yourself as unique! Try studying some science instead of inventing rubbish. NG I do not exclude billions of people,you and your cataloguer/theorist friends do. Right now the Earth is rotating through the changing orientation of its orbital shadow,as the Earth slowly turns in its orbit the dividing line between the face towards the Sun and its own orbital shadow is slowly aligning with the axial rotational coordinates.As this orbital division splits the polar axis at dawn on the Equinox the distinction between orbital and axial coordinates dissappears.It is a dawn spectacle for the alignment is always at 90 degrees to the Sun/Earth line. See it once for the astronomical value it is and you are unlikely to retreat to the equinox in terms of climatic changes. |
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Graham W wrote: Martin Frey wrote: "Roger Smith" wrote: Do you really have to impose this on us? ... Kill file both of us if it gets on your tits Done {Plonk} -- Graham W http://www.gcw.org.uk/ PGM-FI page updated, Graphics Tutorial WIMBORNE http://www.wessex-astro-society.freeserve.co.uk/ Wessex Dorset UK Astro Society's Web pages, Info, Meeting Dates, Sites & Maps Change 'news' to 'sewn' in my Reply address to avoid my spam filter. There you go Martin,this ****er here thinks he lives in the 17th century and apply the lockout system of ostracism where even you become a lesson to others. The Islamic guys will only be too happy to recover the Equation of Time correction and apply the correct astronomical attributes to the difference between axial and orbital motion,orientations and coordinates while you lot climb into your empirical caves like you have this past few weeks. Unless you want to present weather prediction as an astronomical achievement (equinox/axial tilt) I strongly suggest you get the astronomical merit system up and running again,use it or lose it sunshine !. " If the doors of perception were cleansed every thing would appear to man as it is: infinite. For man has closed himself up, till he sees all things thro' narrow chinks of his cavern." http://www.kobe-c.ac.jp/~watanabe/blake/mhh.htm |
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