What "scott grissom" wanted for Chrisnukkah

....The question is, at the price they're asking for this thing, would
he still be tempted to recreate Gus' landing in the bathtub?

http://www.customreplicas.com/LES.htm


OM

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On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 17:01:13 -0600, OM
om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org wrote:

...The question is, at the price they're asking for this thing, would
he still be tempted to recreate Gus' landing in the bathtub?

http://www.customreplicas.com/LES.htm


Pardon my ignorance, but what is "JOE Scale"?

I like the open cockpit Mercury capsule

Dale

On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 15:39:20 -0800, Dale wrote:

Pardon my ignorance, but what is "JOE Scale"?

....Apparently FAO Schwartz did a special collector's edition of the GI
Joe Mercury Capsule, one that was colored in Rene 47 style, and marked
to look more like Friendship 7. There's one sort of on display at the
JSC visitor's center, but it's in a really odd place near the kids'
section. There's this two-sided display of GI Joe figures dressed in
space gear, and the capsule is on the back side of the two-sided
display. "Back side" meaning the side that's facing the wall, which
sort of makes the dual sided nature of the display moot.

Then again, what's bad about the display is that at the top are two
ninja GI Joes fighting it out that have AbZero to do with space...


OM

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On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 18:15:22 -0600, OM
om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org wrote:

Then again, what's bad about the display is that at the top are two
ninja GI Joes fighting it out that have AbZero to do with space...

Seriously?? Good Lord...

Dale

On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 15:39:20 -0800, Dale wrote:

Pardon my ignorance, but what is "JOE Scale"?

....Oh, I should clarifiy the term a bit. Hasbro owns the rights,
trademarks, copyrights, etc, etc, to the term "GI Joe" when it applies
to posable action figures, whether 12" or 3.5" size. In recent years,
a small cottage industry has developed that produces replacement parts
for old GI Joe action sets, and has evolved into providing accessories
that Hasbro refuses and/or is too cheap to produce themselves. These
vary from basic military items to improved/accuratized versions of
weaponry to prototype weaponry & uniforms, to even Sci-Fi complete
conversion kits, such as the Marine suits from "Aliens".

....The problem is that Hasbro, like a lot of other companies, are
forced by law(*) to rigorously protect their trademarks, copyrights,
etc. So, when these cottage industries started advertising on the web
that their products fit GI Joe figures, Hasbro started suing them for
using the "GI Joe" name w/o permission. While most of these
third-party providers caved in, one said "**** YOU!" and went to court
over the matter, The arguement used was that none of the motor
companies sue part manufacturers and customizers over third party
upgrade/custom parts, which was really the heart of the matter here -
Hasbro wasn't protecting the name of "GI Joe", they were trying to
retain sole control over what accessories were available for the
figures, much in the same way drug pushers artificially limit supply
to keep demand and prices high. On the other hand, Hasbro argued that
such tight controls were required not only to protect trademarks from
being diluted, but to prevent perverts from producing B&D accessories
for the figures, including genitalia.

....In the end, the judge ruled that both sides had a valid arguement,
and ordered the two sides to negotiate a settlement, which basically
came down to the third party providers a) producing product in an "on
demand" basis with very little stockpiling, b) never using the name
"GI Joe", but instead using a term that had become accepted in the toy
industry, "JOE Scale" to describe the size of their accessories, and
c) producing product that would not in any way, shape or form sully
the name of the original product.

....On a side note, c) was used to successfully shut down two
third-party accessory providers in 2001. One was producing the
aforementioned stick-on genetalia and B&D gear, the other was
producing replacement heads featuring the likenesses of Hitler, Stalin
and of all people, Tim McVeigh. But then again, except for the German
regular troops in WWII, Hasbro never really did give the 12" GI Joes
enemies worth killing, did they?


(*) This is *not* an open invitation for Scott & Herb to get into
their debate, natch.
OM

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On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 16:19:14 -0800, Dale wrote:

On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 18:15:22 -0600, OM
om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_resear ch_facility.org wrote:

Then again, what's bad about the display is that at the top are two
ninja GI Joes fighting it out that have AbZero to do with space...

Seriously?? Good Lord...

....Yeah, I almost got a picture of it, but I was having far too much
trouble trying *not* to step on all the ******* rugrats who were
running into me constantly as I was trying to get into the back
entrance to the Spacecraft Gallery. I can understand kids being
excited about NASA and all that, but some parents need to teach their
brats a little decorum for their elders!

OM

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On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 18:34:25 -0600, OM
om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org wrote:
But then again, except for the German regular troops in WWII, Hasbro never
really did give the 12" GI Joes enemies worth killing, did they?

Well, they could have collaborated with Mattel on a set with a JOE-scale
Ken doll (who would likely benefit from the stick-on aftermarket genitalia)
that comes with a "Homophobe Joe" opponent

I guess I just don't understand the market for a $200 add-on to a GI Joe
toy. But there are so many things in life I just don't understand.

Thanks for the explanation.

Dale

Oh, of COURSE NOT, BOB. God FORBID Gus' SON should get in on this!!!!!
WHO do you think you are? I had NO CLUE Vicodin could give a person
such a delusion of superiority! If Scott wishes to comment, he has
EVERY RIGHT to do so, and you have NO RIGHT to tell him otherwise!