How cool is VL2

On May 12, 1:28 pm, Art Deco wrote:
BradGuth wrote:
Venus at 2643 w/m2 and of VL2 being roughly 2625 w/m2 -75% due to
solar isolation = 656 w/m2.

Are you wearing your oven mitt now, Vern?


I've since corrected that VL2 insolation upwards, of being worth 660 w/
m2, which is hardly worth our wasting a perfectly good Ovglove on.

Since only robotic airships are going in for the initial kill, there's
no such Ovglove required there either, especially if nighttime
cruising along at 25 km off that geothermally roasting deck.
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Atmospheric Flight on Venus by Geoffrey A. Landis
http://powerweb.grc.nasa.gov/pvsee/p...enusReno02.pdf
The estimated 1 bar at 50 km according to Geoffrey A. Landis should be
worth a buoyancy of sustaining nearly 1.6 kg/m3 by day and I'm
thinking perhaps as great as 1.75 kg/m3 by night.

Cloud holding buoyancy considerations per m3: (by day)

(km) T(K) P(bar) (kg/m3)
25 539 14.93 14.57
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Brad Guth

Venus is looking better and better all the time. It seems that Earth
is not just a very rare planet, whereas it's also getting summarily
global warmed to death by our local mascon/moon, plus receiving all
the warm and fuzzy GW benefits of humanity running itself amuck.

For a little friendly terrestrial reminder:
Total ice melt = 80.32 meters + given a little extra on behalf of a
thermal expansion factor and continued erosion filling in for perhaps
another 20% boost.
http://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/fs2-00/

Here's an even better global warming test: (can you swim and survive
upon jellyfish?)

Of local planetology and a salty old mascon of a moon that's not going
away soon enough, is all about utilizing the best available science
and educated minds to the maximum extent possible. Or we could keep
telling ourselves those same old lies upon lies, and otherwise
believing in the tooth fairy after we elect Sponge Bob Square Pants as
our next LLPOF president. With such an educational and science
obtainable goal for relocating our moon out to Earth's L1, as such
this daunting task would actually provide many direct environmental
benefits, that is if it were not for the ongoing Old Testament faith-
based gauntlet of naysayism and mainstream damage-control fornication
that's in denial of their being in denial, such as our NASA/Apollo
wizardly need of their covering thy infomercial spewing moonsuit
butts.

In addition to our human contributed atmospheric deployed soot,
pushing the h2o content of our sooty atmosphere from 100 teratonnes to
more than 200 teratonnes, the artificial shifting of Earth's surface
albedo in the wrong damn direction is simply going to further expedite
the ongoing demise of humanity, that's obviously still far too
snookered and thus easily dumbfounded past the point of no return.
Unfortunately, most folks within Usenet have been working their
infomercial butts off, in serious overtime at keeping this bad
situation going in the worse possible direction.

The humanly forced and clearly negative going shift of Earth's albedo,
by way of merely one percentage point, is yet another real environment
killer to the thermal balance of our Earth that's keeping itself more
and more clouded throughout a wetter and stormier nighttime that's
only getting rid of perhaps little more than 90% of that extra
absorbed insolation worth of energy. Of course, more than a few
others and certainly I've only been sharing that interpretation for
several years, along with sharing many other honest thoughts about my
global warming moon that's not exactly helping us to survive upon our
98.5% fluid Earth, as in not helping one damn bit because of the
unavoidable gravity/tidal friction taking place within and all about
our fluid Earth.

You see, true geology and thus honest planetology or perhaps even
local interstellar cosmology is not about what you can see, such as
bad weather extremes that's only getting worse, and of ocean risings
plus tidal flows, whereas 98.5% or more of our global environment is
essentially fluid to those contributed by our pesky mascon/moon and
even from a solar tidal influence, of having been contributing to what
goes all the way to the very molten core of this planet that's also in
the process of losing it's magnetosphere at the impressive rate of -.
05%/year (if that factor alone isn't bad enough news, then perhaps
nothing is).

It seems our very own brown-nosed clowns of conditional physics and
skewed science are in fact running us amuck (on behalf of the rich
getting a whole lot richer), whereas this time our supposed best
available science (aka junk science of mostly infomercial hyped
disinformation) and of their faith-based puppeteers has in fact
managed to shoot off both of our two left feet, and then some.

Of course, the likes of our Death Valley at -86 meters, the Great
Basin at -105 meters (aka most of Nevada), and even that of our Grand
Canyon would soon enough become massive salt water holding basins,
along with incorporating most all of Salt Lake City and multiple other
old and dried up salt basins becoming wet and thus albedo dark instead
of a salty near white.

The good within GW news being, Venus is looking a whole lot better all
the time. At least on Venus there's unlimited renewable energy to
burn, sort of speak, and you certainly don't have to buy off those
pesky wetland or CO2 credits. Since relocating our moon out to
Earth's L1 is not likely to ever happen (because we're simply not
smart enough for making such happen), perhaps my VL2 POOF City should
be accomplished before we have even fewer options.
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http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/Gl...est/start.html
LLPOF Question 3:
Global Warming is believed to be caused primarily by:

b) orbital eccentricities of Earth and variations in the Sun's output

That is correct! (that is actually a well proven lie)

Our GW toasty environment that's going somewhat postal is primarily
caused by our moon that has only been with us since the last ice age
this badly polluted planet will ever see. It is NOT caused primarily
by any 11 year solar cycle and/or that of our elliptical orbit.

Of extra water vapor being sustained within our humanly sooty
atmosphere is in fact a secondary result of the primary GW that's
caused by our moon. Going from 100 teratonnes to that of 200+
teratonnes of atmospheric h2o that's extra loaded and/or fortified
along with our soot and artificial CO2 is not exactly a good sign.
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Brad Guth

On May 11, 11:00 am, "T Wake" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in message

oups.com...

Planetology science is absolutely essential,

So it is a shame that it eludes you.

How do you folks make your infomercial spewed crapolla stick to the
very top of this topic index stack?

What sort of MI/NSA~NASA spookology or rusemaster of incest skills, of
such brown-nosed clownism, are of those talents required for being
such an infomercial spewing ****ologest, like yourself?
-
Brad Guth

In article om,
BradGuth wrote:

How do you folks make your infomercial spewed crapolla stick to the
very top of this topic index stack?

What sort of MI/NSA~NASA spookology or rusemaster of incest skills, of
such brown-nosed clownism, are of those talents required for being
such an infomercial spewing ****ologest, like yourself?


An understanding of modern physics helps. I could fax you an application form.

--
COOSN-174-07-82116: Official Science Team mascot and alt.astronomy's favourite
poster (from a survey taken of the saucerhead high command).

Sacred keeper of the Hollow Sphere, and the space within the Coffee Boy
singularity.

"BradGuth" wrote in message
ps.com...
On May 11, 11:00 am, "T Wake" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in message

oups.com...

Planetology science is absolutely essential,

So it is a shame that it eludes you.

How do you folks make your infomercial spewed crapolla stick to the
very top of this topic index stack?

What sort of MI/NSA~NASA spookology or rusemaster of incest skills, of
such brown-nosed clownism, are of those talents required for being
such an infomercial spewing ****ologest, like yourself?


Feeling so ignored you had to spew a reply to a 10 day old post? Shame on
you bradette.

On May 20, 4:09 pm, "T Wake" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in message

ps.com...

On May 11, 11:00 am, "T Wake" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in message

groups.com...

Planetology science is absolutely essential,

So it is a shame that it eludes you.

How do you folks make your infomercial spewed crapolla stick to the
very top of this topic index stack?

What sort of MI/NSA~NASA spookology or rusemaster of incest skills, of
such brown-nosed clownism, are of those talents required for being
such an infomercial spewing ****ologest, like yourself?

Feeling so ignored you had to spew a reply to a 10 day old post? Shame on
you bradette.

Sorry about that. It seems my warm and fuzzy staff of willing minions
to do whatever it takes are either on vacation or being gassed to
death by their own kind as we speak.

It seems you just can't hardly truse these faith-based souls without
great risk of getting yourself put on a stick.
-
Brad Guth

BradGuth wrote:

On May 20, 4:09 pm, "T Wake" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in message

ps.com...

On May 11, 11:00 am, "T Wake" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in message

groups.com...

Planetology science is absolutely essential,

So it is a shame that it eludes you.

How do you folks make your infomercial spewed crapolla stick to the
very top of this topic index stack?

What sort of MI/NSA~NASA spookology or rusemaster of incest skills, of
such brown-nosed clownism, are of those talents required for being
such an infomercial spewing ****ologest, like yourself?

Feeling so ignored you had to spew a reply to a 10 day old post? Shame on
you bradette.

Sorry about that. It seems my warm and fuzzy staff of willing minions
to do whatever it takes are either on vacation or being gassed to
death by their own kind as we speak.

It seems you just can't hardly truse these faith-based souls without
great risk of getting yourself put on a stick.

Got any evidence that anyone has actually tried to put you "on a
stick", Vern?

For his endless whining about being persecuted and "topic/author
stalked" by those who laugh at his goofy ideas about space, I nominate
Brad "Vern" Guth for the Tony Sidaway Drama Queen Award.

Any seconds?

--
Supreme Leader of the Brainwashed Followers of Art Deco

"Causation of gravity is missing frame field always attempting
renormalization back to base memory of equalized uniform momentum."
-- nightbat the saucerhead-in-chief

"Of doing Venus in person would obviously incorporate a composite
rigid airship, along with it's internal cache of frozen pizza and
ice cold beer."
-- Brad Guth, bigoted racist

"You really are one of the litsiest people I know, Mr. Deco."
--Kali, quoted endlessly by David Tholen as evidence of "something"

In article ,
Art Deco wrote:

Got any evidence that anyone has actually tried to put you "on a
stick", Vern?

For his endless whining about being persecuted and "topic/author
stalked" by those who laugh at his goofy ideas about space, I nominate
Brad "Vern" Guth for the Tony Sidaway Drama Queen Award.

Any seconds?


Indeed. As part of the LLPOF NA/MFI/B&Q CABAL (tinllpofnamfib&qc) I must.

--
COOSN-174-07-82116: Official Science Team mascot and alt.astronomy's favourite
poster (from a survey taken of the saucerhead high command).

Sacred keeper of the Hollow Sphere, and the space within the Coffee Boy
singularity.

"Phineas T Puddleduck" wrote in message

Indeed. As part of the LLPOF NA/MFI/B&Q CABAL ........
..................I'm 100% Gay.


I knew it, DuckiePuss!

HJ

On May 20, 1:54 pm, BradGuth wrote:
On May 11, 11:00 am, "T Wake" wrote:

"BradGuth" wrote in message

roups.com...

Planetology science is absolutely essential,

So it is a shame that it eludes you.

How do you folks make your infomercial spewed crapolla stick to the
very top of this topic index stack?

What sort of MI/NSA~NASA spookology or rusemaster of incest skills, of
such brown-nosed clownism, are of those talents required for being
such an infomercial spewing ****ologest, like yourself?
-
Brad Guth

Part-2

I see that your insider usenet crapolla shall forever remain as a big-
ass infomercial spewing secret, pretty much like all of those Muslim
WMD.

No wonder you're all so loved by our resident LLPOF warlord(GW Bush).
Too bad he can't manage to love you folks to death, just like his born-
again fiasco that's supposedly helping out all of those Muslims that
just so happen to be sitting on top of his oil.
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Brad Guth