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Old July 12th 03, 11:49 PM
Scott M. Kozel
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"Charleston" wrote:

"Scott M. Kozel" wrote:

So you say that a government employee was working on a national
holiday? He he!


No, that is an asssumption on your part.


I was just commenting on the JTM claim that the man wrote the letter on
July 4th 2003.

The webpage said "Current as of June 1999" and his bio indicated that he
was working at the Pentagton for the U.S. Air Force.

Is he still working there?

By the way, is this the A. Ernest Fitzgerald that you are referring
to -- http://www.af.mil/bios/bio_5423.shtml -- ??


Yes, that is the man. He is extremely well respected in Washington D.C. as
having uncompromising values and impeccable credentials. He was actually
fired by then President Richard Nixon for blowing the whistle on the C-5
Galaxy project. Mr. Fitzgerald took the President to court for ordering his
termination. When he lost in Federal court on appeal (IIRC), his lawyers
abandoned him. He went on to win his case when of all things, drum roll
please, President Nixon audiotaped the conversation ordering Mr.
Fitzgerald's termination. Well Fitzgerald ultimately got the tape and the
President then lost and had to pay Fitzgerald somewhere around $140,000,
which was a lot back then.


His bio indicates that he worked 1965-1970 and 1973-present(at least
1999) for the U.S. Air Force.

He is above reproach, and it does not surprise
me that he would ask for a one page account of John Maxson's explanation of
the Challenger accident, especially in the middle of the current Space
Shuttle Columbia saga. Few Senators or Congressmen will read more than one
page of such a report and it is my guess that a Senator will read the
summary posted on this thread.


That was what I was trying to ascertain, what was the context of the
alleged missive that JTM has posted over and over.

Your explanation above says that Fitzgerald merely cataloged the JTM
explanation of 51-L, without necessarily agreeing with any of it. That
makes perfect sense to me.

His book about his own involvement in fraud against the government is called
"The High Priests of Waste", a direct referral to the almost cult-like
religion that is practiced by some contractors in bilking the U.S. taxpayers
out of a whole lot of money.


Thanks for the explanation!


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Old July 13th 03, 12:02 AM
Sander Vesik
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In sci.space.policy John Maxson wrote:
Since Jon Berndt insists on libeling and defaming me:


What Idon't understand is why you had to *yet again* post that
onepager. WHY? And it not only is not a relevant answer to his
mail, it sort of proves his point.

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Old July 13th 03, 01:07 AM
John Maxson
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Sander Vesik wrote in message
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What Idon't understand is why you had to *yet again* post
that onepager. WHY?


Well, if you lived in this country, I'd have to say that you
seem to be a slow learner like Berndt. However, I remember
that you or those you know have been visiting my website
for quite some time, long before Columbia's loss. I also
recall that you or your group is involved in education.

Therefore I will try to explain to you a little bit about our
political and educational systems. Our political systems
inundate their opponents and their electorates redundantly
with propaganda, in hopes that the party spending the most
money in that manner will win. So we fight fire with fire.

Our educational systems teach that in order to reach slow
learners, redundancy should be employed. Here I'm both
trying to reach slow learners and combat the ills of our
corrupt political systems. Thanks for listening.

--
John Thomas Maxson, Retired Engineer (Aerospace)
Author, The Betrayal of Mission 51-L (www.mission51l.com)


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Old July 13th 03, 01:42 AM
Rhonda Lea Kirk
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Paul Maxson wrote:
OM wrote:


...Oh, bite me Maxson. We know it's you or one of your
******* kids.


Who is "we" Bob? Everyone who is part of the "we" above
please say Aye.


*I* know it isn't you, Max. And it isn't your father and it
isn't your brother.

And if no one here is willing to look a little more
carefully, there will never be an end to this plague on
sci.space.

rl

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Old July 13th 03, 05:30 AM
Kevin Willoughby
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Paul Maxson said:
The Human O-Ring is a breeding ground for libel.

OM om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org
wrote in message ...

...Oh, bite me Maxson.


Thanks, OM. All this group needed was an excuse to get Paul Maxson
posting here again. Haven't you yet learned that he behaves non-
lineally to anything he considers libel? Or do you just enjoy taunting
the handicapped?
--
Kevin Willoughby lid

We'd spend the remaining time trying to fix the engine.
-- Neil Armstrong
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Old July 13th 03, 05:34 AM
Rick C
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"Paul Maxson" wrote in message
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Who is "we" Bob? Everyone who is part of the "we" above please say Aye.


Geez, Paul. Just ignore OM. It's just not worth it.



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Old July 13th 03, 05:37 AM
Rick C
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"Scott M. Kozel" wrote in message
...
Irresistible force meets immovable object...


Yes, well, killfiling John isn't enough to make me not have to hear him, so
into the killfile *you* go.


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Old July 13th 03, 05:39 AM
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On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 20:42:12 -0400, "Rhonda Lea Kirk"
wrote:

*I* know it isn't you, Max. And it isn't your father and it
isn't your brother.


....Who cares? All the Maxson trash are in killfile hell where their
lying asses belong. Let'em threaten to sue me all they want. Can't sue
if they don't have a legal leg to stand on, especially after all the
crap Paul pulled two years ago. The whole *family* has such a ****ed
track record that no court in the land would side with them, no matter
how many kangaroos are on the jury or behind the bench.

....So go **** yourself, Paul. And the father who rode in on you.
You're not worth my time or effort, and the sooner your entire
dessicated family shrub drops dead the better off usenet and the world
as a whole will be. You may have fooled Rhonda with your "poor little
abused me!" act, but the rest of us - yes, *us*, you pedantic
misanthropic excuse for a "hire-a-cop" - don't believe a single
****ing word of it.

Not. One. Iota. Period.


OM

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his country. He won it by making the other | Sergeant-At-Arms
poor dumb ******* die for his country." | Human O-Ring Society

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Old July 13th 03, 05:55 AM
OM
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Default Enough! Just killfile all the ****wit Maxsons and BE DONE WITH THEM!!!!

On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 16:29:03 -0500, "Jon Berndt"
wrote:

john thomas maxson will never, never give up. He's a very sick individual.
He simply has too much invested to ever see the light, or admit he's wrong.
This ceased to be a two way discussion long ago. The arguments he uses are
simply a joke, he ignores evidence he doesn't like, he hijacks the
reputations of experts who prematurely made snap interpretations when
prodded by the media on 1/28/85 - experts even make mistakes. john maxson
has little understanding of the laws of physics - you guys KNOW all this.
His book is a complete tour de farce of hand waving bull****. I have to
heartily agree with Mike on the plonk approach. john maxson has got his
mind (what remains of it) made up.


....Which is why this evening I put Scott Kozel in killfile hell for 30
days in hopes that by the end of that period he will have gotten the
message and done the same to all of the Maxson inbreds on a more
permanent basis.

Sorry, Scott, but enough is enough. See you in 30...


OM

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"No ******* ever won a war by dying for | http://www.io.com/~o_m
his country. He won it by making the other | Sergeant-At-Arms
poor dumb ******* die for his country." | Human O-Ring Society

- General George S. Patton, Jr
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Old July 13th 03, 03:43 PM
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"Charleston" wrote in message
news:ZD6Qa.7719$zy.7283@fed1read06...

Kevin your post seems to suggest that OM's behavior as disgusting as it

has
been
lately is acceptable while Paul's behavior though commendable in its
restraint and civil tone is unacceptable.


*shrug* I think OM's behavior is pretty bad too. Then again, except when
I'm subjected to threads relatively wildly crosposted into .history, I don't
have to read anything by him.


 




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