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NASA Scientist proves Holy Ka'ba Stone is semiconductor from outer space"
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 13:33:13 GMT, "Jim Oberg"
wrote, in part: Abd Al-Baset Sayyid: The British Museum announced that it possessed three pieces of the black stone [of Mecca]. It declares that these pieces prove that the black stone is not from our solar system. I am amazed that some 'debunkers' would have tried to prove it was just a plain rock - what *was* generally believed was that it was a nickel-iron meteorite. That would have been enough to prove Mohammed had good taste in rocks. It is his taste in *women* that makes me feel that a call to show respect to him is something not to be accepted with a straight face. John Savard http://www.quadibloc.com/index.html _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
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NASA Scientist proves Holy Ka'ba Stone is semiconductor from outer space"
One man's religion is another man's belly laugh! Robert Anson
Heinlein Saul Levy On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 04:16:19 GMT, lid (John Savard) wrote: On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 13:33:13 GMT, "Jim Oberg" wrote, in part: Abd Al-Baset Sayyid: The British Museum announced that it possessed three pieces of the black stone [of Mecca]. It declares that these pieces prove that the black stone is not from our solar system. I am amazed that some 'debunkers' would have tried to prove it was just a plain rock - what *was* generally believed was that it was a nickel-iron meteorite. That would have been enough to prove Mohammed had good taste in rocks. It is his taste in *women* that makes me feel that a call to show respect to him is something not to be accepted with a straight face. John Savard |
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NASA Scientist proves Holy Ka'ba Stone is semiconductor from outer space"
Saul Levy wrote: One man's religion is another man's belly laugh! Robert Anson Heinlein Saul Levy It is very curious though that as religions go, Islam seems to be one that has one of the strongest holds on its followers and tends to make them fanatics. Whatever it is about religion that makes it addictive to the human mind is nearly perfected in Islam. Somehow it seems that Mohammed was able to stumble upon the perfect formula, and used it during his lifetime to control large masses of people. And after his death, that formulated psychological control over peoples minds would not die, but perpetuated itself. I wonder if anyone has been able to make an objective study on how a formulated religion has so much power over people, and some have a stronger hold than others? Double-A |
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NASA Scientist proves Holy Ka'ba Stone is semiconductor from outer space"
Yeah, amazing isn't it? This tells us a lot about the followers.
Just look at WarpHole! But also look at the Afghani who gave the mullahs the finger and got away with it! I'm sure such studies have been done. Saul Levy On 30 Mar 2006 00:21:45 -0800, "Double-A" wrote: Saul Levy wrote: One man's religion is another man's belly laugh! Robert Anson Heinlein Saul Levy It is very curious though that as religions go, Islam seems to be one that has one of the strongest holds on its followers and tends to make them fanatics. Whatever it is about religion that makes it addictive to the human mind is nearly perfected in Islam. Somehow it seems that Mohammed was able to stumble upon the perfect formula, and used it during his lifetime to control large masses of people. And after his death, that formulated psychological control over peoples minds would not die, but perpetuated itself. I wonder if anyone has been able to make an objective study on how a formulated religion has so much power over people, and some have a stronger hold than others? Double-A |
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NASA Scientist proves Holy Ka'ba Stone is semiconductor from outer space"
Double-A wrote in message oups.com... Saul Levy wrote: One man's religion is another man's belly laugh! Robert Anson Heinlein Saul Levy It is very curious though that as religions go, Islam seems to be one that has one of the strongest holds on its followers and tends to make them fanatics. Whatever it is about religion that makes it addictive to the human mind is nearly perfected in Islam. Somehow it seems that Mohammed was able to stumble upon the perfect formula, and used it during his lifetime to control large masses of people. And after his death, that formulated psychological control over peoples minds would not die, but perpetuated itself. I wonder if anyone has been able to make an objective study on how a formulated religion has so much power over people, and some have a stronger hold than others? Double-A Double-A, first and foremost one must understand the struggle between God's chosed people and the people who want to be God's chosen people but aren't. It all goes back to Abraham in the Bible. Abraham's wife couldn't have children so she told Abraham to have sex with a slave woman named Hagar, and they produced a child named Ishmael. Later, God told Abraham that he and Sarah would produce a son that would be the "seed" of a nation of God's chosen people, and God made Sarah produce a son named Issac who was the "chosen one" of God. Then the slave woman Hagar and the slave son Ismael were sent away, because they were not the "chosen ones" of God. Issac's family led to a nation of God's chosen people, the nation of Israel. Ishmael's family led to a counterfit religion of people wanting to be God's chosen people but were just counterfits and that is Islam. They cling to a counterfit Christ figure in Mohamad, and even produced a counterfit book (written be a Jew) called the Koran. The struggle between God's chosen people and the counterfits will never be resolved until Jesus Christ comes back and sets up "His Kingdom" on Earth and puts the counterfit Islamics in their place. This struggle is supernatural and that is why "some have a strong hold over people". If it got down to it God's chosen people (Israel) are just as zealous as Islamics are, and we may find out shortly when Israel bombs the **** out of Iran before Iran has the chance to produce nuclear weapons that could destroy Israel! The end is near! Have a nice day, and don't worry be happy! Honest John |
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NASA Scientist proves Holy Ka'ba Stone is semiconductor from outer space"
"John Savard" wrote I am amazed that some 'debunkers' would have tried to prove it was just a plain rock - what *was* generally believed was that it was a nickel-iron meteorite. That would have been enough to prove Mohammed had good taste in rocks. What's so amazing that scientists would want to do science? Farouk ElBaz (an Egyptian scientist) wrote a paper (maybe in SCIENCE) many years ago speculating (with some evidence) that the Mecca stone was probably a dolomite, blackened by time and many hands, not a meteorite. Also see R.S. Dietz and J. McHone (1974) Kaaba stone: Not a meteorite, probably an agate. Meteoritics 9, 173-179. |
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NASA Scientist proves Holy Ka'ba Stone is semiconductor from outer space"
On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 04:57:27 GMT, "Jim Oberg"
wrote, in part: What's so amazing that scientists would want to do science? Actually, it isn't amazing that scientists would want to see what a particular rock, reputed to be a meteorite, actually is. When conclusions start coming back about semiconductors from beyond the Solar System, however, it is natural to wonder if it is science that is being done. Apparently, though, given your information about the credentials of the researcher, my misgivings in _that_ area were unwarranted. More to the point, however, there is no massive scientific program going on to examine every single pebble or stone on the face of the Earth. It would be one thing if religious authorities in Sa'udi Arabia had submitted flecks from the stone in the Ka'aba for analysis, after the manner of the Vatican with the Shroud of Turin. Hence, I see something else at work here besides 'doing science'. I have no quarrel with attempting to refute Islam - but I do *not* see any necessity to commit a desecration in order to do so. That the stolen particles were turned over to a Muslim researcher, who found in them evidence that the stone in the Ka'aba was even more remarkable than anyone could have imagined - even if I am highly skeptical about those conclusions - is, I suppose, a deserved comeuppance. John Savard http://www.quadibloc.com/index.html _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
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NASA Scientist proves Holy Ka'ba Stone is semiconductor from outer space"
John Savard wrote: On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 04:57:27 GMT, "Jim Oberg" wrote, in part: What's so amazing that scientists would want to do science? Actually, it isn't amazing that scientists would want to see what a particular rock, reputed to be a meteorite, actually is. When conclusions start coming back about semiconductors from beyond the Solar System, however, it is natural to wonder if it is science that is being done. Apparently, though, given your information about the credentials of the researcher, my misgivings in _that_ area were unwarranted. More to the point, however, there is no massive scientific program going on to examine every single pebble or stone on the face of the Earth. It would be one thing if religious authorities in Sa'udi Arabia had submitted flecks from the stone in the Ka'aba for analysis, after the manner of the Vatican with the Shroud of Turin. Hence, I see something else at work here besides 'doing science'. I have no quarrel with attempting to refute Islam - but I do *not* see any necessity to commit a desecration in order to do so. That the stolen particles were turned over to a Muslim researcher, who found in them evidence that the stone in the Ka'aba was even more remarkable than anyone could have imagined - even if I am highly skeptical about those conclusions - is, I suppose, a deserved comeuppance. John Savard http://www.quadibloc.com/index.html _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account What would be so unusual if the rock were a semiconductor? Every natural galena crystal is a semiconductor. Remember the old crystal set radios with the crystal and the cats whisker? Double-A |
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NASA Scientist proves Holy Ka'ba Stone is semiconductor from outer space"
John, i think the issue here is that the original claim of a secret investigation may be bogus, but was offered as proof of the unusual nature of the stone. The original speaker brought the attention on himself by making a claim subject to verification, that so far, has not been verified. |
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NASA Scientist proves Holy Ka'ba Stone is semiconductor from outer space"
Cursed are you, you blaspheming sun of the devil.
Matthew 4:1 Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil. (WEB KJV WEY ASV DBY WBS YLT NAS RSV NIV) Matthew 4:5 Then the devil took him into the holy city. He set him on the pinnacle of the temple, (WEB KJV WEY ASV DBY WBS YLT NAS RSV NIV) Matthew 4:8 Again, the devil took him to an exceedingly high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world, and their glory. (WEB KJV WEY ASV DBY WBS YLT NAS RSV NIV) Matthew 4:11 Then the devil left him, and behold, angels came and served him. (WEB KJV WEY ASV DBY WBS YLT NAS RSV NIV) Matthew 9:32 As they went out, behold, they brought to him a dumb man possessed with a devil. (KJV) Matthew 9:33 And when the devil was cast out, the dumb spake: and the multitudes marvelled, saying, It was never so seen in Israel. (KJV) Matthew 11:18 For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, He hath a devil. (KJV) Matthew 12:22 Then was brought unto him one possessed with a devil, blind, and dumb: and he healed him, insomuch that the blind and dumb both spake and saw. (KJV) Matthew 13:39 The enemy who sowed them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are angels. (WEB KJV WEY ASV DBY WBS YLT NAS RSV NIV) |
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