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Engineer: Star Trek's Enterprise ship could be built in 20 years at acost of $1 trillion
"Whether you're a Trekkie or not, you have to admit that there's
some sense of wonder to exploring the stars and trying to find life on distant planets. Of course, the U.S.S. Enterprise is a fictional ship, but have you ever put in the thought as to what it would take to actually build it, and when we could get it done if we really put in the effort? The man behind the well-researched site buildtheenterprise.org has, and he's determined that a fully functional Enterprise is only 20 years away if we put in the effort. Created by a systems and electrical engineer with 30 years' experience, the BuildTheEnterprise site sets out a very specific timeline for the research and construction of such a massive space-related undertaking. The first nine years are dedicated to research, component testing, and drawing up a number of possible blueprints. The following 11 years are dedicated to development, where components will be manufactured and launched into space for assembly. See: http://www.tecca.com/news/2012/05/18...ise-star-trek/ |
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Engineer: Star Trek's Enterprise ship could be built in 20 yearsat a cost of $1 trillion
On Friday, May 18, 2012 7:03:21 PM UTC-7, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 19/05/2012 6:49 AM, wrote: "Whether you're a Trekkie or not, you have to admit that there's some sense of wonder to exploring the stars and trying to find life on distant planets. Of course, the U.S.S. Enterprise is a fictional ship, but have you ever put in the thought as to what it would take to actually build it, and when we could get it done if we really put in the effort? The man behind the well-researched site buildtheenterprise.org has, and he's determined that a fully functional Enterprise is only 20 years away if we put in the effort. Created by a systems and electrical engineer with 30 years' experience, the BuildTheEnterprise site sets out a very specific timeline for the research and construction of such a massive space-related undertaking. The first nine years are dedicated to research, component testing, and drawing up a number of possible blueprints. The following 11 years are dedicated to development, where components will be manufactured and launched into space for assembly. See: http://www.tecca.com/news/2012/05/18...ise-star-trek/ Given the total lack of any theoretical underpinning for the core technology - the warp drive - there is no possible basis for thinking that a starship could be achieved within 20 years, or indeeed, any other time frame. Sylvia. I agree though a solar system class ship might be possible. Getting people and their projects out there might help on the more distant goal. Getting a lower cost mode to orbit would help. This might be different for Earth as compared to shallower gravity wells. The latter solution might and likely would look like the old lunar landing module except perhaps in one stage and reusable. Changing the importance of the trip time frame would shift the frame of reference. That is to say engineering of longer lived human for an interstellar mission. If you've got a human species that lives 1000's of years, a trip out beyond the "edge" looks more possible. Throw in the possiblity of humans that can deep hiberate and you've got game. Biological science seems to be advancing more rapidly than propulsion science. Perhaps an "individual based stem cell generator" might even permit this for standard humans. Such the individual receive a dose of fresh stem cells every 10 years or 20 years? out to the edge and beyond.................Trig Large space based telescopes the make the current project look tiny would help reveal if there is a there out there that is in reach of uber humans. |
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Engineer: Star Trek's Enterprise ship could be built in 20 yearsat a cost of $1 trillion
On 5/18/2012 10:03 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
Given the total lack of any theoretical underpinning for the core technology - the warp drive - there is no possible basis for thinking that a starship could be achieved within 20 years, or indeeed, any other time frame. Or artificial gravity. Maybe if you can get one you can get the other? OTOH if Bigelow is looking for design ideas of how to shape a new generation of space habs, to promote space tourism, well... It could be either this or mouse ears.... 8:-) Dave |
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Engineer: Star Trek's Enterprise ship could be built in 20 yearsat a cost of $1 trillion
On 21/05/2012 5:26 AM, David Spain wrote:
On 5/18/2012 10:03 PM, Sylvia Else wrote: Given the total lack of any theoretical underpinning for the core technology - the warp drive - there is no possible basis for thinking that a starship could be achieved within 20 years, or indeeed, any other time frame. Or artificial gravity. Well, I'd be happy to spin my starship, if I had one, so it's not so important. But the warp drive... Sylvia. |
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Engineer: Star Trek's Enterprise ship could be built in 20 yearsat a cost of $1 trillion
On Saturday, May 19, 2012 10:10:43 PM UTC-7, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 20/05/2012 5:35 AM, @gmail.com wrote: Changing the importance of the trip time frame would shift the frame of reference. That is to say engineering of longer lived human for an interstellar mission. If you've got a human species that lives 1000's of years, a trip out beyond the "edge" looks more possible. Throw in the possiblity of humans that can deep hiberate and you've got game. Long lives might help a bit, but as for hibernation, you have the problem that the people back on Earth who've paid for this project won't live to see its completion. Well, not unless they themselves go into hibernation on Earth. Absent a compelling reason for launching a mission that lasts decades, or hundreds of years, I doubt the stay-at-homes will be willing to fund it. Sylvia. It is a step by step thing. First the solar system then further. Perhaps the model isn't the Enterprise so much as Red Dwarf, the mining ship ;-) I'd suggest hibernation would be more for boredom and reduction of food and oxygen intakes. If humans started living longer this might well be true on this Earth so longer term thinking might actually happen. Granted this world would mean a much smaller breeding population here on the planet. The configuration of society would certainly change. Far less basic education, much less little crime (perhaps), and much less in the way of elderly social security. Get more people into the great vacuum, would likely mean more physic experiments in the vacuum of space. Perhaps tech would advance to at least a decent fraction of the speed of light say 1/20 or 1/10. Who knows even some thing like warp drive? |
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Engineer: Star Trek's Enterprise ship could be built in 20 yearsat a cost of $1 trillion
On 22/05/2012 1:55 AM, Doug Freyburger wrote:
wrote: It is a step by step thing. First the solar system then further. Perhaps the model isn't the Enterprise so much as Red Dwarf, the mining ship ;-) ... Get more people into the great vacuum, would likely mean more physic experiments in the vacuum of space. Perhaps tech would advance to at least a decent fraction of the speed of light say 1/20 or 1/10. Who knows even some thing like warp drive? Try running the arithmetic on colonizing the galaxy at 0.1 C. Give each step a couple of centuries to build an industrial base on the colony planet then hop again. The end result is an outward wave moving 20 light years (to the next colony world) every 400 years (half travel, half growth) or 0.05C. For a galaxy with a diameter of 200,000 LY it takes 4 million years to fill the galaxy. There was a Scientific American article that did this arithmetic maybe 20 years ago. Which just begs the question of why bother? In particular, why would each colony want to invest significant resources into establishing another one? Sylvia. |
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