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At sea-level NOBODY has gone faster than 600KPH, but you believe that they reach 1200KPH, don't you?



 
 
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Old February 25th 04, 07:04 PM
Ron Baker, Pluralitas!
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Default At sea-level NOBODY has gone faster than 600KPH, but you believe that they reach 1200KPH, don't you?


"bart janssens" wrote in message
om...
"Mark K. Bilbo" -amikchi wrote in message

-amikchi...
On % in episode we saw
our hero (bart janssens):

This is a typical example of doublethink.

From the point of your OWN EXPERIENCE and of your OWN EMPIRICAL
METHOD...you never experienced a velocity of more than 600KPH at
sea-level...and you really do not know a honest person that has gone
faster than 600KPH at sea-level,
however you probably "follow" the believe that many men have already
broken the sound-barrier at sea-level, which means that those men went
FASTER than 1200KPH at sea-level...

In order to neutralize this contradiction most people believe that is
FORBIDDEN BY LAW TO DEMONSTRATE THE BREAKING OF THE SOUND-BARRIER,
and to go faster than 1200KPH, because of the supersonic bang,...

and then they simply forget the difference
between 600KPH and 1200KPH....


None of this makes any damn sense.

I see no reason to doubt reports that the speed of sound was exceeded on
the ground. What would stop them?


Do you know any report that a speed of 600KPH was exceeded
by a man at sea-level?


Are pictures good enough for you?
http://www2.hawaii.edu/~csutter/tomcat3.htm
http://www.docdailey.com/f14flyby.htm

This link cites the overpressure measured resulting from
supersonic aircraft at altitudes of less than 100 feet.
http://library.thinkquest.org/12228/Page3.html


So, why do you believe that the speed of sound (1200KPH)
was exceeded at sea-level?

Or, are you a double-speaker?



My words:
And if you claim that "2+2=5" and "600=1200", than you can easily
believe that space-travel, which needs 28000KPH, is possible...


Well, *somebody put some satellites up there. I even watch TV off of

one...

...there are some (natural) satellites,
like the moon and the asteroids and the ionosphere....

But, why is necessary to claim that "somebody" has put them there?

You are like a christian who sees proof of the existence of God,
because God PUT "man in the garden of Eden"....



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Old February 25th 04, 07:39 PM
Douglas Berry
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Default At sea-level NOBODY has gone faster than 600KPH, but you believe that they reach 1200KPH, don't you?

Lo, many moons past, on Wed, 25 Feb 2004 03:48:12 GMT, a stranger
called by some "Baruch." $PAM came forth and
told this tale in alt.atheism

OK, but were these flights at sea level? I think maybe Bart's contention is
that the speed is impossible at sea level - though I can't for the life of
me imagine why he thinks that...


3,848 ft above sea level. Which means the air pressure is 0.999.

No difference, really.
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Old February 25th 04, 07:39 PM
Douglas Berry
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Default At sea-level NOBODY has gone faster than 600KPH, but you believe that they reach 1200KPH, don't you?

Lo, many moons past, on Wed, 25 Feb 2004 03:48:12 GMT, a stranger
called by some "Baruch." $PAM came forth and
told this tale in alt.atheism

OK, but were these flights at sea level? I think maybe Bart's contention is
that the speed is impossible at sea level - though I can't for the life of
me imagine why he thinks that...


3,848 ft above sea level. Which means the air pressure is 0.999.

No difference, really.
--

Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5

Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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Old February 25th 04, 07:58 PM
Ross Lockley
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Default At sea-level NOBODY has gone faster than 600KPH, but you believe that they reach 1200KPH, don't you?

In message , Anatid
Bonecki writes
(bart janssens) wrote in message news:

This is a typical example of doublethink.


Sounds like double-talk to me.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/barrier/boom/

Go here to learn about sonic booms, which take place at 1220 Kph. Or
750 Mph.
Wheeled vehicles have reportedly reached speeds in excess of 600 mph.
However friction and resistance of tires, etc. make it hard for a
wheeled vehicle to go past the sound barrier. Airplanes however do it
all the time.



15th October 1997

Blackrock Desert Nevada USA

Thrust SSC

world land speed record - 763 mph

the double sonic booms are audible on the tv coverage.

Some nice pics he

http://www.andrewgraves.biz/ssc_stuff/SSC_pics.htm

including some very nice ones of the shock waves as the car goes
supersonic!

The offical announcement:

From The FIA Website, The World Motor Sport Council released the
following:

WORLD LAND SPEED RECORD
The World Motor Sport Council homologated the new world land speed
records set by the team ThrustSSC of Richard Noble, driver Andy Green,
on 15 October 1997 at Black Rock Desert, Nevada (USA).

This is the first time in history that a land vehicle has exceeded the
speed of sound. The new records are as follows:

Flying mile 763.035 mph (1227.985 kph)
Flying kilometre 1223.657 kph (760.343 mph)

In setting the record, the sound barrier was broken in both the north
and south runs.

Paris, 11 November 1997


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Old February 25th 04, 07:58 PM
Ross Lockley
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Default At sea-level NOBODY has gone faster than 600KPH, but you believe that they reach 1200KPH, don't you?

In message , Anatid
Bonecki writes
(bart janssens) wrote in message news:

This is a typical example of doublethink.


Sounds like double-talk to me.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/barrier/boom/

Go here to learn about sonic booms, which take place at 1220 Kph. Or
750 Mph.
Wheeled vehicles have reportedly reached speeds in excess of 600 mph.
However friction and resistance of tires, etc. make it hard for a
wheeled vehicle to go past the sound barrier. Airplanes however do it
all the time.



15th October 1997

Blackrock Desert Nevada USA

Thrust SSC

world land speed record - 763 mph

the double sonic booms are audible on the tv coverage.

Some nice pics he

http://www.andrewgraves.biz/ssc_stuff/SSC_pics.htm

including some very nice ones of the shock waves as the car goes
supersonic!

The offical announcement:

From The FIA Website, The World Motor Sport Council released the
following:

WORLD LAND SPEED RECORD
The World Motor Sport Council homologated the new world land speed
records set by the team ThrustSSC of Richard Noble, driver Andy Green,
on 15 October 1997 at Black Rock Desert, Nevada (USA).

This is the first time in history that a land vehicle has exceeded the
speed of sound. The new records are as follows:

Flying mile 763.035 mph (1227.985 kph)
Flying kilometre 1223.657 kph (760.343 mph)

In setting the record, the sound barrier was broken in both the north
and south runs.

Paris, 11 November 1997


--
Ross Lockley
Galashiels

www.analoguesat.co.uk

www.digitalsat.co.uk

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Old February 25th 04, 09:06 PM
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Default At sea-level NOBODY has gone faster than 600KPH, but you believe that they reach 1200KPH, don't you?

(bart janssens) hallucinated in
om:

Do you know any report that a speed of 600KPH was exceeded
by a man at sea-level?


http://www.thrustssc.com/

specifically http://www.thrustssc.com/thrustssc/contents_frames.html


Brian
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Old February 25th 04, 09:06 PM
Skywise
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Default At sea-level NOBODY has gone faster than 600KPH, but you believe that they reach 1200KPH, don't you?

(bart janssens) hallucinated in
om:

Do you know any report that a speed of 600KPH was exceeded
by a man at sea-level?


http://www.thrustssc.com/

specifically http://www.thrustssc.com/thrustssc/contents_frames.html


Brian
--
http://home.earthlink.net/~skywise71...ics/laser.html
"Great heavens! That's a laser!"
"Yes, Dr. Scott. A laser capable of emitting a beam of pure antimatter."
  #28  
Old February 25th 04, 10:37 PM
angelicusrex
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Default At sea-level NOBODY has gone faster than 600KPH, but you believe that they reach 1200KPH, don't you?

Thanks for the Update, Ross!
So we now are "doublethinkers" because we "believe the reports that someone
has broken the sound barrier at sea-level..." Whatever that means. Somehow I
don't think we win any prizes.

So, we can make a vehicle go 763 mph but we can't put a satellite into orbit
according in Janssens...I am really trying to figure out what sort of
brain-malfunction this dude has.

Saint

"Ross Lockley" wrote in message
...
In message , Anatid
Bonecki writes
(bart janssens) wrote in message news:

This is a typical example of doublethink.


Sounds like double-talk to me.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/barrier/boom/

Go here to learn about sonic booms, which take place at 1220 Kph. Or
750 Mph.
Wheeled vehicles have reportedly reached speeds in excess of 600 mph.
However friction and resistance of tires, etc. make it hard for a
wheeled vehicle to go past the sound barrier. Airplanes however do it
all the time.



15th October 1997

Blackrock Desert Nevada USA

Thrust SSC

world land speed record - 763 mph

the double sonic booms are audible on the tv coverage.

Some nice pics he

http://www.andrewgraves.biz/ssc_stuff/SSC_pics.htm

including some very nice ones of the shock waves as the car goes
supersonic!

The offical announcement:

From The FIA Website, The World Motor Sport Council released the
following:

WORLD LAND SPEED RECORD
The World Motor Sport Council homologated the new world land speed
records set by the team ThrustSSC of Richard Noble, driver Andy Green,
on 15 October 1997 at Black Rock Desert, Nevada (USA).

This is the first time in history that a land vehicle has exceeded the
speed of sound. The new records are as follows:

Flying mile 763.035 mph (1227.985 kph)
Flying kilometre 1223.657 kph (760.343 mph)

In setting the record, the sound barrier was broken in both the north
and south runs.

Paris, 11 November 1997


--
Ross Lockley
Galashiels

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www.digitalsat.co.uk

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Old February 25th 04, 10:37 PM
angelicusrex
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Default At sea-level NOBODY has gone faster than 600KPH, but you believe that they reach 1200KPH, don't you?

Thanks for the Update, Ross!
So we now are "doublethinkers" because we "believe the reports that someone
has broken the sound barrier at sea-level..." Whatever that means. Somehow I
don't think we win any prizes.

So, we can make a vehicle go 763 mph but we can't put a satellite into orbit
according in Janssens...I am really trying to figure out what sort of
brain-malfunction this dude has.

Saint

"Ross Lockley" wrote in message
...
In message , Anatid
Bonecki writes
(bart janssens) wrote in message news:

This is a typical example of doublethink.


Sounds like double-talk to me.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/barrier/boom/

Go here to learn about sonic booms, which take place at 1220 Kph. Or
750 Mph.
Wheeled vehicles have reportedly reached speeds in excess of 600 mph.
However friction and resistance of tires, etc. make it hard for a
wheeled vehicle to go past the sound barrier. Airplanes however do it
all the time.



15th October 1997

Blackrock Desert Nevada USA

Thrust SSC

world land speed record - 763 mph

the double sonic booms are audible on the tv coverage.

Some nice pics he

http://www.andrewgraves.biz/ssc_stuff/SSC_pics.htm

including some very nice ones of the shock waves as the car goes
supersonic!

The offical announcement:

From The FIA Website, The World Motor Sport Council released the
following:

WORLD LAND SPEED RECORD
The World Motor Sport Council homologated the new world land speed
records set by the team ThrustSSC of Richard Noble, driver Andy Green,
on 15 October 1997 at Black Rock Desert, Nevada (USA).

This is the first time in history that a land vehicle has exceeded the
speed of sound. The new records are as follows:

Flying mile 763.035 mph (1227.985 kph)
Flying kilometre 1223.657 kph (760.343 mph)

In setting the record, the sound barrier was broken in both the north
and south runs.

Paris, 11 November 1997


--
Ross Lockley
Galashiels

www.analoguesat.co.uk

www.digitalsat.co.uk

"Sender" and "From" addresses are spam trapped.
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  #30  
Old February 26th 04, 12:19 AM
Mark K. Bilbo
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Default At sea-level NOBODY has gone faster than 600KPH, but you believe that they reach 1200KPH, don't you?

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 09:51:05 -0800 in episode
we saw our hero
(bart janssens):

"Mark K. Bilbo" -amikchi wrote in message -amikchi...
On % in episode we saw
our hero
(bart janssens):

This is a typical example of doublethink.

From the point of your OWN EXPERIENCE and of your OWN EMPIRICAL
METHOD...you never experienced a velocity of more than 600KPH at
sea-level...and you really do not know a honest person that has gone
faster than 600KPH at sea-level,
however you probably "follow" the believe that many men have already
broken the sound-barrier at sea-level, which means that those men went
FASTER than 1200KPH at sea-level...

In order to neutralize this contradiction most people believe that is
FORBIDDEN BY LAW TO DEMONSTRATE THE BREAKING OF THE SOUND-BARRIER,
and to go faster than 1200KPH, because of the supersonic bang,...

and then they simply forget the difference
between 600KPH and 1200KPH....


None of this makes any damn sense.

I see no reason to doubt reports that the speed of sound was exceeded on
the ground. What would stop them?


Do you know any report that a speed of 600KPH was exceeded
by a man at sea-level?


Sure. Here's one:

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/5..._speed_pr.html

And he

http://roadsters.com/750/

Their average was 763.035 miles per hour which is... 1227.99 Kilometers
per hour.

So, why do you believe that the speed of sound (1200KPH)
was exceeded at sea-level?


Why shouldn't I?

Or, are you a double-speaker?


Bass or treble?


My words:
And if you claim that "2+2=5" and "600=1200", than you can easily
believe that space-travel, which needs 28000KPH, is possible...


Well, *somebody put some satellites up there. I even watch TV off of one...


...there are some (natural) satellites,
like the moon and the asteroids and the ionosphere....

But, why is necessary to claim that "somebody" has put them there?

You are like a christian who sees proof of the existence of God,
because God PUT "man in the garden of Eden"....


I have a dish aimed at one that's broadcasting TV signals at us. Why is it
doing that? Broadcasting TV signals?

--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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