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At sea-level NOBODY has gone faster than 600KPH, but you believe that they reach 1200KPH, don't you?



 
 
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Old February 25th 04, 04:29 AM
Douglas Berry
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Default At sea-level NOBODY has gone faster than 600KPH, but you believe that they reach 1200KPH, don't you?

Lo, many moons past, on 24 Feb 2004 10:47:08 -0800, a stranger called
by some (bart janssens) came forth and
told this tale in alt.atheism

This is a typical example of doublethink.

From the point of your OWN EXPERIENCE and of your OWN EMPIRICAL
METHOD...you never experienced a velocity of more than 600KPH at
sea-level...and you really do not know a honest person that has gone
faster than 600KPH at sea-level,
however you probably "follow" the believe that many men have already
broken the sound-barrier at sea-level, which means that those men went
FASTER than 1200KPH at sea-level...


The Thrust-SSC went 1,227.98579 kmh on 15 October 1997. The feat was
well documented by many observers, and the records are available.

http://www.thrustssc.com/Latest_News...d_Article.html

In order to neutralize this contradiction most people believe that is
FORBIDDEN BY LAW TO DEMONSTRATE THE BREAKING OF THE SOUND-BARRIER,
and to go faster than 1200KPH, because of the supersonic bang,...


It was all over the news, loser.

In 1990, a SR-71 reconissance plane left Edwards Air Force Base in
Southern California, and 68 minutes later landed in Washington D.C. at
Andrews Air Force Base. Since this was the supposed last flight of
the Blackbird, the USAF had a lot of fun announcing the time.

That's roughly 2,300 miles. And an average speed of 2,000 mph
(3,218kph). Since the SR-71 needs to be refueled on take off, top
speed was much higher... around Mach 3 (2,350mph)

Again, this trip was well documented. The two-man crew was
photographed climbing into the bird in California, and climbing out in
D.C. In addition, they signed for the bird in both places... the two
sets of signatures are time-stamped.

So, in the end, you are a moron.
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Old February 25th 04, 04:48 AM
Baruch.
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Default At sea-level NOBODY has gone faster than 600KPH, but you believe that they reach 1200KPH, don't you?


"Douglas Berry" wrote in message
...

In 1990, a SR-71 reconissance plane left Edwards Air Force Base in
Southern California, and 68 minutes later landed in Washington D.C. at
Andrews Air Force Base. Since this was the supposed last flight of
the Blackbird, the USAF had a lot of fun announcing the time.

That's roughly 2,300 miles. And an average speed of 2,000 mph
(3,218kph). Since the SR-71 needs to be refueled on take off, top
speed was much higher... around Mach 3 (2,350mph)

Again, this trip was well documented. The two-man crew was
photographed climbing into the bird in California, and climbing out in
D.C. In addition, they signed for the bird in both places... the two
sets of signatures are time-stamped.

So, in the end, you are a moron.
--

OK, but were these flights at sea level? I think maybe Bart's contention is
that the speed is impossible at sea level - though I can't for the life of
me imagine why he thinks that...


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Old February 25th 04, 04:48 AM
Baruch.
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Default At sea-level NOBODY has gone faster than 600KPH, but you believe that they reach 1200KPH, don't you?


"Douglas Berry" wrote in message
...

In 1990, a SR-71 reconissance plane left Edwards Air Force Base in
Southern California, and 68 minutes later landed in Washington D.C. at
Andrews Air Force Base. Since this was the supposed last flight of
the Blackbird, the USAF had a lot of fun announcing the time.

That's roughly 2,300 miles. And an average speed of 2,000 mph
(3,218kph). Since the SR-71 needs to be refueled on take off, top
speed was much higher... around Mach 3 (2,350mph)

Again, this trip was well documented. The two-man crew was
photographed climbing into the bird in California, and climbing out in
D.C. In addition, they signed for the bird in both places... the two
sets of signatures are time-stamped.

So, in the end, you are a moron.
--

OK, but were these flights at sea level? I think maybe Bart's contention is
that the speed is impossible at sea level - though I can't for the life of
me imagine why he thinks that...


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Old February 25th 04, 05:06 AM
Anatid Bonecki
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Default At sea-level NOBODY has gone faster than 600KPH, but you believe that they reach 1200KPH, don't you?

(bart janssens) wrote in message news:

This is a typical example of doublethink.


Sounds like double-talk to me.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/barrier/boom/

Go here to learn about sonic booms, which take place at 1220 Kph. Or
750 Mph.
Wheeled vehicles have reportedly reached speeds in excess of 600 mph.
However friction and resistance of tires, etc. make it hard for a
wheeled vehicle to go past the sound barrier. Airplanes however do it
all the time.

The rest of what you wrote is pretty stupid stuff.

Saint
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Old February 25th 04, 05:06 AM
Anatid Bonecki
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Default At sea-level NOBODY has gone faster than 600KPH, but you believe that they reach 1200KPH, don't you?

(bart janssens) wrote in message news:

This is a typical example of doublethink.


Sounds like double-talk to me.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/barrier/boom/

Go here to learn about sonic booms, which take place at 1220 Kph. Or
750 Mph.
Wheeled vehicles have reportedly reached speeds in excess of 600 mph.
However friction and resistance of tires, etc. make it hard for a
wheeled vehicle to go past the sound barrier. Airplanes however do it
all the time.

The rest of what you wrote is pretty stupid stuff.

Saint
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Old February 25th 04, 06:51 PM
bart janssens
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Default At sea-level NOBODY has gone faster than 600KPH, but you believe that they reach 1200KPH, don't you?

"Mark K. Bilbo" -amikchi wrote in message -amikchi...
On % in episode we saw
our hero (bart janssens):

This is a typical example of doublethink.

From the point of your OWN EXPERIENCE and of your OWN EMPIRICAL
METHOD...you never experienced a velocity of more than 600KPH at
sea-level...and you really do not know a honest person that has gone
faster than 600KPH at sea-level,
however you probably "follow" the believe that many men have already
broken the sound-barrier at sea-level, which means that those men went
FASTER than 1200KPH at sea-level...

In order to neutralize this contradiction most people believe that is
FORBIDDEN BY LAW TO DEMONSTRATE THE BREAKING OF THE SOUND-BARRIER,
and to go faster than 1200KPH, because of the supersonic bang,...

and then they simply forget the difference
between 600KPH and 1200KPH....


None of this makes any damn sense.

I see no reason to doubt reports that the speed of sound was exceeded on
the ground. What would stop them?


Do you know any report that a speed of 600KPH was exceeded
by a man at sea-level?

So, why do you believe that the speed of sound (1200KPH)
was exceeded at sea-level?

Or, are you a double-speaker?



My words:
And if you claim that "2+2=5" and "600=1200", than you can easily
believe that space-travel, which needs 28000KPH, is possible...


Well, *somebody put some satellites up there. I even watch TV off of one...


....there are some (natural) satellites,
like the moon and the asteroids and the ionosphere....

But, why is necessary to claim that "somebody" has put them there?

You are like a christian who sees proof of the existence of God,
because God PUT "man in the garden of Eden"....
  #17  
Old February 25th 04, 06:51 PM
bart janssens
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Default At sea-level NOBODY has gone faster than 600KPH, but you believe that they reach 1200KPH, don't you?

"Mark K. Bilbo" -amikchi wrote in message -amikchi...
On % in episode we saw
our hero (bart janssens):

This is a typical example of doublethink.

From the point of your OWN EXPERIENCE and of your OWN EMPIRICAL
METHOD...you never experienced a velocity of more than 600KPH at
sea-level...and you really do not know a honest person that has gone
faster than 600KPH at sea-level,
however you probably "follow" the believe that many men have already
broken the sound-barrier at sea-level, which means that those men went
FASTER than 1200KPH at sea-level...

In order to neutralize this contradiction most people believe that is
FORBIDDEN BY LAW TO DEMONSTRATE THE BREAKING OF THE SOUND-BARRIER,
and to go faster than 1200KPH, because of the supersonic bang,...

and then they simply forget the difference
between 600KPH and 1200KPH....


None of this makes any damn sense.

I see no reason to doubt reports that the speed of sound was exceeded on
the ground. What would stop them?


Do you know any report that a speed of 600KPH was exceeded
by a man at sea-level?

So, why do you believe that the speed of sound (1200KPH)
was exceeded at sea-level?

Or, are you a double-speaker?



My words:
And if you claim that "2+2=5" and "600=1200", than you can easily
believe that space-travel, which needs 28000KPH, is possible...


Well, *somebody put some satellites up there. I even watch TV off of one...


....there are some (natural) satellites,
like the moon and the asteroids and the ionosphere....

But, why is necessary to claim that "somebody" has put them there?

You are like a christian who sees proof of the existence of God,
because God PUT "man in the garden of Eden"....
  #18  
Old February 25th 04, 06:56 PM
bart janssens
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Default At sea-level NOBODY has gone faster than 600KPH, but you believe that they reach 1200KPH, don't you?

(bart janssens) wrote in message . com...
This is a typical example of doublethink.

From the point of your OWN EXPERIENCE and of your OWN EMPIRICAL
METHOD...you never experienced a velocity of more than 600KPH at
sea-level...and you really do not know a honest person that has gone
faster than 600KPH at sea-level,
however you probably "follow" the believe that many men have already
broken the sound-barrier at sea-level, which means that those men went
FASTER than 1200KPH at sea-level...

In order to neutralize this contradiction most people believe that is
FORBIDDEN BY LAW TO DEMONSTRATE THE BREAKING OF THE SOUND-BARRIER,
and to go faster than 1200KPH, because of the supersonic bang,...

and then they simply forget the difference
between 600KPH and 1200KPH....



In the book "1984" you can read the following sentences.

"In Newspeak there is no word for Science. The EMPIRICAL method of
thought, on which all the scientific achievements of the past were
founded, is opposed to the most fundamental principles of Ingsoc. And
even technological progress only happens when its products can in some
way be used for the diminution of human liberty."

"War is a way of shattering to pieces, or POURING INTO THE
STRATOSPHERE, or sinking in the depths of the sea, materials which
might otherwise be used to make the masses too comfortable, and hence,
in the long run, too intelligent"


My words:
And if you claim that "2+2=5" and "600=1200",
than you can easily believe that space-travel, which needs 28000KPH,
is possible...

Do the doublethink-test:
http://home.sprintmail.com/~astronom...nts/dttest.htm

Go to www.geocities.com/markpeeters96/a.html
www.geocities.com/markpeeters96/proof1.html


www.geocities.com/markpeeters96/aa.html
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Old February 25th 04, 06:56 PM
bart janssens
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Default At sea-level NOBODY has gone faster than 600KPH, but you believe that they reach 1200KPH, don't you?

(bart janssens) wrote in message . com...
This is a typical example of doublethink.

From the point of your OWN EXPERIENCE and of your OWN EMPIRICAL
METHOD...you never experienced a velocity of more than 600KPH at
sea-level...and you really do not know a honest person that has gone
faster than 600KPH at sea-level,
however you probably "follow" the believe that many men have already
broken the sound-barrier at sea-level, which means that those men went
FASTER than 1200KPH at sea-level...

In order to neutralize this contradiction most people believe that is
FORBIDDEN BY LAW TO DEMONSTRATE THE BREAKING OF THE SOUND-BARRIER,
and to go faster than 1200KPH, because of the supersonic bang,...

and then they simply forget the difference
between 600KPH and 1200KPH....



In the book "1984" you can read the following sentences.

"In Newspeak there is no word for Science. The EMPIRICAL method of
thought, on which all the scientific achievements of the past were
founded, is opposed to the most fundamental principles of Ingsoc. And
even technological progress only happens when its products can in some
way be used for the diminution of human liberty."

"War is a way of shattering to pieces, or POURING INTO THE
STRATOSPHERE, or sinking in the depths of the sea, materials which
might otherwise be used to make the masses too comfortable, and hence,
in the long run, too intelligent"


My words:
And if you claim that "2+2=5" and "600=1200",
than you can easily believe that space-travel, which needs 28000KPH,
is possible...

Do the doublethink-test:
http://home.sprintmail.com/~astronom...nts/dttest.htm

Go to www.geocities.com/markpeeters96/a.html
www.geocities.com/markpeeters96/proof1.html


www.geocities.com/markpeeters96/aa.html
  #20  
Old February 25th 04, 07:04 PM
Ron Baker, Pluralitas!
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Default At sea-level NOBODY has gone faster than 600KPH, but you believe that they reach 1200KPH, don't you?


"bart janssens" wrote in message
om...
"Mark K. Bilbo" -amikchi wrote in message

-amikchi...
On % in episode we saw
our hero (bart janssens):

This is a typical example of doublethink.

From the point of your OWN EXPERIENCE and of your OWN EMPIRICAL
METHOD...you never experienced a velocity of more than 600KPH at
sea-level...and you really do not know a honest person that has gone
faster than 600KPH at sea-level,
however you probably "follow" the believe that many men have already
broken the sound-barrier at sea-level, which means that those men went
FASTER than 1200KPH at sea-level...

In order to neutralize this contradiction most people believe that is
FORBIDDEN BY LAW TO DEMONSTRATE THE BREAKING OF THE SOUND-BARRIER,
and to go faster than 1200KPH, because of the supersonic bang,...

and then they simply forget the difference
between 600KPH and 1200KPH....


None of this makes any damn sense.

I see no reason to doubt reports that the speed of sound was exceeded on
the ground. What would stop them?


Do you know any report that a speed of 600KPH was exceeded
by a man at sea-level?


Are pictures good enough for you?
http://www2.hawaii.edu/~csutter/tomcat3.htm
http://www.docdailey.com/f14flyby.htm

This link cites the overpressure measured resulting from
supersonic aircraft at altitudes of less than 100 feet.
http://library.thinkquest.org/12228/Page3.html


So, why do you believe that the speed of sound (1200KPH)
was exceeded at sea-level?

Or, are you a double-speaker?



My words:
And if you claim that "2+2=5" and "600=1200", than you can easily
believe that space-travel, which needs 28000KPH, is possible...


Well, *somebody put some satellites up there. I even watch TV off of

one...

...there are some (natural) satellites,
like the moon and the asteroids and the ionosphere....

But, why is necessary to claim that "somebody" has put them there?

You are like a christian who sees proof of the existence of God,
because God PUT "man in the garden of Eden"....



 




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