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Old March 10th 14, 08:16 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Monday, March 10, 2014 10:07:38 AM UTC-7, oriel36 wrote:
On Monday, March 10, 2014 3:44:04 PM UTC, Mike Collins wrote:

RichA wrote:




The Eurotrash socialists are busy bankrupting their countries by




squandering money on solar and wind power. Spain was a good example of




this. I hardly think they'll pony up any more money for a space mission.








Perhaps you will approve of this one:








http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Ob...eenhouse_gases




Oh look Collins,they get the 1670 km/hr Equatorial speed right but the Earth actually takes 365 1/4 days to complete one orbital circuit -



http://www.esa.int/esaKIDSen/SEM697W...niverse_0.html



In 24 hours the Earth turns its full circumference but your foolish cult assumes 1674 km/hr -



"The angular speed of Earth's rotation in inertial space is (7.2921150 ± 0.0000001) ×10−5 radians per SI second (mean solar second). Multiplying by (180°/π radians)×(86,400 seconds/mean solar day) yields 360.9856°/mean solar day, indicating that Earth rotates more than 360° relative to the fixed stars in one solar day. Earth's movement along its nearly circular orbit while it is rotating once around its axis requires that Earth rotate slightly more than once relative to the fixed stars before the mean Sun can pass overhead again, even though it rotates only once (360°) relative to the mean Sun. Multiplying the value in rad/s by Earth's equatorial radius of 6,378,137 m (WGS84 ellipsoid) (factors of 2π radians needed by both cancel) yields an equatorial speed of 465.1 m/s, 1,674.4 km/h or 1,040.4 mi/h" Wikipedia





The jargon and voodoo is very impressive for people who know no better but whatever stupidity there is that can't mesh the 24 hour system with the Lat/Long system and the 1670 km which equates to 15 degrees or separation at the Equator and one hour time difference,the people at ESA and NASA are required to comprehend how the actual systems are put together and how they work together.



With a $5.5 billion budget,at least the ESA recognizes that the Earth turns at a rate of 15 degrees per hour and once in 24 hours but doesn't seem to have the slightest clue why it is that way.


5+ trillions are still missing in action, and our MIC run Pentagon could care less.

Just imagine what our NASA, DARPA and JPL could have accomplished with merely 10% of that hard earned loot, especially as of more than a decade ago.
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Old March 11th 14, 08:27 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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One of the most dismaying events over the last few decades was watching the Church issue an apology in the matter of the Galileo affair as amid the tangle of issues is the boundary which separates the ability to establish astronomical events within the calendar system on one side with the more fluid ability to discern causes and effects between our planet's motions and terrestrial sciences plus cause and perspective which makes sense of the motions of other planets and our our within the solar system structure on the other side. The reason it is dismaying is that the Church could roll back the damage it created by absolving itself from its astronomical heritage and living off moral dictates as representing Christ and Christianity thereby missing the point of faith and what it does in productive and creative endeavors. It turns out that Christians in authority dislike me even more than the spiritless empirical community who exploited the situation to their own advantage hence the apparent isolation of my views and the graphics and images that support them,this is not a complaint but merely an observation as I am within the more encompassing astronomical heritage.

I had hoped that NASA, as the most visible organization associated with the celestial arena,would at least exercise its position and adopt or even steal the intellectual architecture that relates timekeeping to planetary dynamics thereby stabilizing a situation and energizing astronomy among their own and the wider community. The hoopla over 'global warming' has drained interest in the exotic empirical conceptions dumped into the celestial arena under the name of astronomy so practitioners of that voodoo are now only seeing how it is affecting their agenda. In the end the entire cult is going to spiral down into discussing weather and organizing astronomical observations to suit the 'global warming' conclusion instead of looking at how planetary dynamics influences temperature changes which in turn influences weather as one facet among many.

The task of any group of people within the Christian Church, NASA,the ESA or any other organization is enormous even allowing they have the courage and the wits to look at the bigger picture. What lies beneath the surface narratives of today is a huge tangle of conflicting ,contrived and counter-productive lines of reasoning which do not mesh and never will. At the core of it all is the tangle based on where timekeeping and planetary dynamics mesh and separate with absolutely no appreciation so far as to how the 1461 natural rotations fit into 4 orbital circumferences and how we perceive them in the familiar calendar format. This is a program that far exceeds the Apollo program in scope and relevance by many,many magnitudes and it can be achieved not just by present tools but by new tools that have yet to appear.

Apart from those who rely on their reputations and salaries to maintain the present tangle of issues and even exploit the tangle using voodoo and bluffing,people within and without these organizations and even the readers here can contribute to a genuine understanding of our planet's motions and those of the others whereas presently everything is strained ,awkward and clearly not up the standards of 21st century observations and tools.

The alternative option is to maintain a mismatch between rotations and days which will permit the dull and dreary voodoo to continue and fund a few self-serving theorists who congratulate themselves at the expense of genuine astronomy.

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Old March 11th 14, 11:37 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Sunday, March 9, 2014 10:27:18 AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Sun, 9 Mar 2014 06:18:25 -0700 (PDT), RichA

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Seems the Cassini mission will be killed in 2015 b


It's already operating well past its original end-of-life. And it
isn't a purely NASA mission. The ESA can opt to continue with the
extended mission if they choose.


http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/14/opinio...ssini-mission/

Extended missions are always subject to continued financing outside
the original budget. If Congress doesn't allocate sufficient funding,
NASA has to adjust its priorities.


Perhaps Congress needs to adjust its priorities, with less wasted on pork (vote buying) and more spent on space (not Earth) exploration.

As we now know with a high degree
of certainty that the world is in deep trouble due to climate change,
and part of NASA's primary charter is studying the Earth and its
climate, it makes good sense they should shift what resources they
have to that. Understanding the Earth in more detail has become the
most important thing NASA can do.


Wrong. Its most important duty has always been and still is, to develop space hardware, especially launch vehicles.
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On Sunday, March 9, 2014 11:43:34 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
The Eurotrash socialists are busy bankrupting their countries by squandering money on solar and wind power. Spain was a good example of this. I hardly think they'll pony up any more money for a space mission.


http://www.spacenews.com/article/esa...perating-costs

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On Monday, March 10, 2014 10:28:57 AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Sun, 9 Mar 2014 20:43:34 -0700 (PDT), RichA

wrote:


The Eurotrash socialists are busy bankrupting their countries by squandering money on solar and wind power. Spain was a good example of this. I hardly think they'll pony up any more money for a space mission.


http://www.thelocal.es/20131112/spai...k-in-your-door

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/06/wo...ooks.html?_r=0

http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/14/sp...axing-the-sun/

Oooh... the Eurotrash socialists. Did you remember to look under your
bed for monsters before going to sleep? I hear the bogeyman is running
loose in your part of Canada.


European socialists were started a World War in '39. It would be another 50+ years before communism was ended in Poland.




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Old March 11th 14, 03:25 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Tue, 11 Mar 2014 03:57:27 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

European socialists were started a World War in '39. It would be another 50+ years before communism was ended in Poland.


Socialism and communism are very different. And there are vanishingly
few socialists to be found anywhere in the developed world.
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oriel36 wrote:

So let's see where NASA is at in understanding the Earth -

"The Earth spins on its axis about 366 and 1/4 times each year, but
there are only 365 and 1/4 days per year. This is because we define a
day not based on the Earth's period of rotation, but based on the
average time from noon one day to noon the next. Gradually over the
course of a year the Sun appears to go 'backwards' (West to East)
around the Earth compared to the far away stars (this is because we
are really going around the Sun). Subtracting this 1 time backwards
from the 366 and 1/4 times forward, we get the typical 365 and 1/4
days per year." NASA

http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/as...rs/970714.html

I don't know what people have against the actual architecture where
the apparent motion of Sirius along the ecliptic and behind the glare
of the Sun fixes the Earth's orbital position in space with its first
appearance. The drift backwards into the Sun's glare by a 6 hour
amount of orbital motion with each 365 day cycle accumulates to an
entire rotation after 4 circuits hence the appearance skips a day.


Does anyone know of a publicly accessible website that provides a daily
log of Sun and/or Sirius sightings (positions)? TIA.

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Old March 11th 14, 04:19 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 2:53:23 PM UTC, Don Kuenz wrote:
oriel36 wrote:



So let's see where NASA is at in understanding the Earth -




"The Earth spins on its axis about 366 and 1/4 times each year, but


there are only 365 and 1/4 days per year. This is because we define a


day not based on the Earth's period of rotation, but based on the


average time from noon one day to noon the next. Gradually over the


course of a year the Sun appears to go 'backwards' (West to East)


around the Earth compared to the far away stars (this is because we


are really going around the Sun). Subtracting this 1 time backwards


from the 366 and 1/4 times forward, we get the typical 365 and 1/4


days per year." NASA




http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/as...rs/970714.html




I don't know what people have against the actual architecture where


the apparent motion of Sirius along the ecliptic and behind the glare


of the Sun fixes the Earth's orbital position in space with its first


appearance. The drift backwards into the Sun's glare by a 6 hour


amount of orbital motion with each 365 day cycle accumulates to an


entire rotation after 4 circuits hence the appearance skips a day.




Does anyone know of a publicly accessible website that provides a daily

log of Sun and/or Sirius sightings (positions)? TIA.


Yes,sure, it is thousands of years old and the only accurate one presently -

" on account of the precession of the rising of Sirius by one day in the course of 4 years.. therefore it shall be, that the year of 360 days and the 5 days added to their end, so one day shall be from this day after every 4 years added to the 5 epagomenae before the New Year" Canopus Decree

The orbital position of the Earth is fixed in space by that observation as Sirius runs parallel with the ecliptic motion of our planet and temporarily vanishes from sight as it becomes lost in the glare of the central Sun.

The endeavor of the people of NASA and any other organization or individual is to give people back the principles which tie timekeeping to planetary dynamics.People are not unthinking robots but can enjoy the spectacle as it is handed to them as they observe the motion of Sirius over an extended period from the surface or a graphic showing it from a distance. The sequence of images show Elnath,Castor and Pollox disappear behind the Sun and the orbital motion of the Earth that causes the spectacle -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=MdFrE7hWj0A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeQwYrfmvoQ

This forum is the first to see the architecture of timekeeping and planetary dynamics mesh and separate as it truly exists and using tools that the flawed empiricists never had. Time to act like people who live in the 21st century instead of being stuck in the late 17th.









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On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 10:25:07 AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Tue, 11 Mar 2014 03:57:27 -0700 (PDT), wsnell01 wrote:



European socialists were started a World War in '39. It would be another 50+ years before communism was ended in Poland.


Socialism and communism are very different.


Both are based on the elimination of private property and the abuse of natural rights. The distinction is that fascism (the WW2 axis for example) allows for existence of "capitalism" if/when convenient for those in power; such a government essentially runs and owns the factories and capital.

And there are vanishingly
few socialists to be found anywhere in the developed world.


Evidence that refutes your (as usual, hilarious) view:

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ni...in-capitalism/


 




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