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EINSTEIN CRIMINAL CULT MAY INTRODUCE AN ALGEBRAIC SPEED OF LIGHT
Recently Tom Roberts, the Albert Einstein of our generation, launched
a fierce campaign in defence of some mysterious "geometrical" speed of light: Tom Roberts on sci.physics.relativity: "They ASSUMED all this, and ASSUMED space is Euclidean, and ASSUMED time is universal and flows "equably". All these ASSUMPTIONS are no different in principle from the geometrical assumptions of SR, so the fact that light travels with speed c in vacuum in SR is no different in principle from those ASSUMPTIONS of Newton et al. That's why there is no "cause" for the universality of c in SR, just as there is no "cause" for Newton's first law -- both are _GEOMETRY_, not "causality" or "physical mechanisms". The only difference is historical: Newton et al did not describe it this way, even though this is the natural way to describe it today. So if you insist there be some "mechanism" to make the vacuum speed of light be c in all inertial frames, to be consistent you should also insist on some "mechanism" to make light travel in straight lines. And assuming you can do the latter, then whatever "mechanism" you come up with will also apply to the former. But to date nobody has done so -- geometry simply is not a "physical mechanism"......It's just that you cannot get your head into "SR space" where the speed of light is geometrical..... I repeat: in SR the speed of light is no more determined by some "physical mechanism" than are the straight lines of classical mechanics. BOTH are determined by the geometry. shrug" It seems Tom Roberts is fighting against other relativity hypnotists who want to renounce the space-time continuum and possibly other idiotic corollaries of Einstein's false principle of constancy of the speed of light and introduce some "algebraic physics": http://www.nybooks.com/articles/20279 "The Other Einstein" Lee Smolin: "It is also disappointing that none of the biographers mention the writings that lead John Stachel, the founding editor of the Einstein Papers project, to speak of "the other Einstein." These writings look beyond his struggles with the unified field theory to "the other possibility [which] leads in my opinion to a renunciation of the space- time continuum, and to a purely algebraic physics." What Einstein is saying is that the smoothness of space is an illusion and the fundamental description of space will be in terms of algebra and not geometry." Clearly relativity hypnotists have finally taken notice of what Divine Albert confessed at the end of his life: Einstein: "If the speed of light is the least bit affected by the speed of the light source, then my whole theory of relativity and theory of gravity is false." Einstein again: "I consider it quite possible that physics cannot be based on the field concept,i.e., on continuous structures. In that case, nothing remains of my entire castle in the air, gravitation theory included, [and of] the rest of modern physics." Pentcho Valev |
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EINSTEIN CRIMINAL CULT MAY INTRODUCE AN ALGEBRAIC SPEED OF LIGHT
On May 25, 11:36 pm, Pentcho Valev wrote:
[snip crap] Go away, obsessed loon. |
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EINSTEIN CRIMINAL CULT MAY INTRODUCE AN ALGEBRAIC SPEED OF LIGHT
"Eric Gisse" wrote in message ups.com... On May 25, 11:36 pm, Pentcho Valev wrote: [snip crap] Go away, obsessed loon. Want to make sure a loon will *never* go away? Call him a loon and tell him to go away ;-) Dirk Vdm |
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EINSTEIN CRIMINAL CULT MAY INTRODUCE AN ALGEBRAIC SPEED OF LIGHT
On May 26, 7:36 am, Pentcho Valev shouted:
EINSTEIN CRIMINAL CULT MAY INTRODUCE AN ALGEBRAIC SPEED OF LIGHT iN THE 1970S there was an attempt to a PLAYTEX-LIVING-BRA speed of light .... but it bounced!! |
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EINSTEIN CRIMINAL CULT MAY INTRODUCE AN ALGEBRAIC SPEED OF LIGHT
Dirk Van de moortel wrote: "Eric Gisse" wrote in message ups.com... On May 25, 11:36 pm, Pentcho Valev wrote: [snip crap] Go away, obsessed loon. Want to make sure a loon will *never* go away? Call him a loon and tell him to go away ;-) Dirk Vdm Gisse need not worry. If Master Lee Smolin manages to free Einstein criminal cult from the space-time continuum and other idiotic corollaries of Einstein's false principle of constancy of the speed of light, HE will become the Albert Einstein of our generation whereas Master Tom Roberts will be kicked out. But then Gisse will become Master Lee Smolin's, not Master Tom Roberts', PhD student - Master Lee Smolin also needs bellicose zombies. It will be a bit late for you Moortel and for Paul Andersen to convert but not for Gisse. Pentcho Valev |
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EINSTEIN CRIMINAL CULT MAY INTRODUCE AN ALGEBRAIC SPEED OF LIGHT
"Pentcho Valev" wrote in message ups.com... Dirk Van de moortel wrote: "Eric Gisse" wrote in message ups.com... On May 25, 11:36 pm, Pentcho Valev wrote: [snip crap] Go away, obsessed loon. Want to make sure a loon will *never* go away? Call him a loon and tell him to go away ;-) Dirk Vdm Gisse need not Seems that "I Was A Teenage Queerwolf" was wrong about something. Ah well... Dirk Vdm |
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EINSTEIN CRIMINAL CULT MAY INTRODUCE AN ALGEBRAIC SPEED OF LIGHT
On May 26, 4:35 am, I Was A Teenage Queerwolf
wrote: On May 26, 7:36 am, Pentcho Valev shouted: EINSTEIN CRIMINAL CULT MAY INTRODUCE AN ALGEBRAIC SPEED OF LIGHT iN THE 1970S there was an attempt to a PLAYTEX-LIVING-BRA speed of light .... but it bounced!! If there's an Einstein criminal cult running around why isn't a Texas posse organizied and then they could be hunted down and killed just like in a John Wayne movie, you know, like common Mexican desperadoes and buried in shallow graves and then life would be wonderful again here on Oith? |
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EINSTEIN CRIMINAL CULT MAY INTRODUCE AN ALGEBRAIC SPEED OF LIGHT
On May 26, 4:50 am, Pentcho Valev wrote:
[snip idiocy] Go away, loon. |
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Eric Gisse wrote: On May 26, 4:50 am, Pentcho Valev wrote: [snip idiocy] Go away, loon. No because I am responsible for your PhD future. Consider again the following two quotations: http://www.nybooks.com/articles/20279 "The Other Einstein" Lee Smolin: "It is also disappointing that none of the biographers mention the writings that lead John Stachel, the founding editor of the Einstein Papers project, to speak of "the other Einstein." These writings look beyond his struggles with the unified field theory to "the other possibility [which] leads in my opinion to a renunciation of the space- time continuum, and to a purely algebraic physics." Einstein: "I consider it quite possible that physics cannot be based on the field concept, i.e., on continuous structures. In that case, nothing remains of my entire castle in the air, gravitation theory included, [and of] the rest of modern physics." I hope you know that the simplest space-time field is a wave of light. In order to save theoretical physics, Lee Smolin and John Stachel may first renounce this particular model, not in all its aspects but only IN SO FAR AS THE SPEED OF LIGHT IS CONCERNED. In other words, the speed of discontinuous particles of light (photons) varies with both the gravitational potential and the relative speed of the light source and the observer, just like other discontinuous particles. Master Lee Smolin may officially renounce the space-time continuum tomorrow: http://www.cieletespace.fr/evenements/LeeSmolin.aspx So you should immediately abandon Master Tom Robers and start worshipping Master Lee Smolin. Master Tom Roberts is a loser, Master Lee Smolin will become the new Albert Einstein of our generation. Bellicose zombies in Einstein criminal cult should immediately declare allegiance to Master Lee Smolin. Pentcho Valev |
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On Jun 5, 12:19 am, Pentcho Valev wrote:
EricGissewrote: On May 26, 4:50 am, Pentcho Valev wrote: [snip idiocy] Go away, loon. No because I am responsible for your PhD future. No, you are not. Go away. [snip remaining] |
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