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Old August 1st 09, 01:25 PM posted to sci.space.station
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So, the launch site in Japan cannot launch during the fishing season? Who
decided to put the launch site there.. some mistake with hindsight!

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Old August 1st 09, 03:57 PM posted to sci.space.station
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Brian Gaff stelde de volgende uitleg voor :
So, the launch site in Japan cannot launch during the fishing season? Who
decided to put the launch site there.. some mistake with hindsight!


Brian


A.F.A.I.K. Tanegashima is situated in south of Japan. Because it is
closter to the equator, less fuel is required to obtain proper orbit.
ESA's launch site has the same advantage.

Regarding the fischeries??? I guess it is first come, first served?

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Old August 1st 09, 07:24 PM posted to sci.space.station
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André wrote:
Brian Gaff stelde de volgende uitleg voor :
So, the launch site in Japan cannot launch during the fishing season?
Who decided to put the launch site there.. some mistake with hindsight!


Brian


A.F.A.I.K. Tanegashima is situated in south of Japan. Because it is
closter to the equator, less fuel is required to obtain proper orbit.
ESA's launch site has the same advantage.

Regarding the fischeries??? I guess it is first come, first served?


Launches require the range safety zone to be cleared (i.e. no fishing
boats). The fisherman's union in Japan is more powerful than the space
agency, so they are able to forbid launches during fishing season.
Simple as that.
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Old August 2nd 09, 08:33 PM posted to sci.space.station
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Jorge R. Frank wrote:

Launches require the range safety zone to be cleared (i.e. no fishing
boats). The fisherman's union in Japan is more powerful than the space
agency, so they are able to forbid launches during fishing season.
Simple as that.


I remember watching a documentary called "You only live twice" where the
japanese were launching rockets from a hollowed out volcano right next
to a fishing village, and the people launching rockets didn't let the
fisherman get in the way :-) :-) :-)


Should self-destruct be required, would debris fall down on a fairly
wide path, or would it come down in a fairly narrow corridor (aka: 10km
wide path, or 1km wide path ?) Since launch windows are rather narrow
for ISS flights, it seems to me that it should be easy to get fisherman
to move by about 1km for an hour for possibly a couple of days.

I get the feeling that the fisherman are more of an excuse for a delay
caused by something else.

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Old August 3rd 09, 07:47 AM posted to sci.space.station
Brian Gaff
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I think you need to look at things in the Japanese way though. Japanese
people do not like to be told what to do, and as has been said, it seems
that in this case the fishing lobby is strong, so with no real history of
compromise, I think the line of least resistance is taken.

The delays of course hit all hi tech industries.

I just hope that when Japan get their own manned craft, they do not worry
about losing face if a safety issue occurs.

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Jorge R. Frank wrote:

Launches require the range safety zone to be cleared (i.e. no fishing
boats). The fisherman's union in Japan is more powerful than the space
agency, so they are able to forbid launches during fishing season.
Simple as that.


I remember watching a documentary called "You only live twice" where the
japanese were launching rockets from a hollowed out volcano right next
to a fishing village, and the people launching rockets didn't let the
fisherman get in the way :-) :-) :-)


Should self-destruct be required, would debris fall down on a fairly
wide path, or would it come down in a fairly narrow corridor (aka: 10km
wide path, or 1km wide path ?) Since launch windows are rather narrow
for ISS flights, it seems to me that it should be easy to get fisherman
to move by about 1km for an hour for possibly a couple of days.

I get the feeling that the fisherman are more of an excuse for a delay
caused by something else.



 




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