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Kepler Mission Mystery
http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog...nted-rate.html
They may be in process of enclosing star using self replicating machinery. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20140...e-in-our-reach Consider flowers blooming after a spring rain in the Kalahari. An amazing sight by the way; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJTZl5CfNeo&app=desktop Just as a desert blooms after a spring rain giving rise to millions of plants from the wilderness so to that the present epoch is giving rise to millions of worlds more sane and civilised than we. Our oligarchy in its narrow interests have already doomed our civilisation to a poor to nonexistent role in the great cosmic stage. Which is too damn bad. Had Goddard and Oberth met as friends and the resources of World War One been expended on space travel as we entered the 20th century we would be a space faring civilisation today and be building our own Dyson sphere. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLkC7ralR30&app=desktop |
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On Thursday, August 11, 2016 at 3:35:47 AM UTC+12, William Mook wrote:
http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog...nted-rate.html They may be in process of enclosing star using self replicating machinery.. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20140...e-in-our-reach Consider flowers blooming after a spring rain in the Kalahari. An amazing sight by the way; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJTZl5CfNeo&app=desktop Just as a desert blooms after a spring rain giving rise to millions of plants from the wilderness so to that the present epoch is giving rise to millions of worlds more sane and civilised than we. Our oligarchy in its narrow interests have already doomed our civilisation to a poor to nonexistent role in the great cosmic stage. Which is too damn bad. Had Goddard and Oberth met as friends and the resources of World War One been expended on space travel as we entered the 20th century we would be a space faring civilisation today and be building our own Dyson sphere. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLkC7ralR30&app=desktop My friend Carl Sagan realised this and fervently hoped we would come to find a more worthy goal than meaningless violence against one another merely to enrich a narrow oligarchy who conceives that against the infinities of space and time, there are too many people because the lack any capacity for real imagination understanding or awareness. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSrL0BXsO40 |
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Kepler Mission Mystery
William Mook wrote:
My friend Carl Sagan ... Carl Sagan couldn't have picked you out of a lineup. Liar. -- "False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the soul with evil." -- Socrates |
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Kepler Mission Mystery
On Thursday, August 11, 2016 at 3:09:47 PM UTC+12, Fred J. McCall wrote:
William Mook wrote: My friend Carl Sagan ... Carl Sagan couldn't have picked you out of a lineup. I met Sagan following the 20th anniversary of Project Ozma in 1980 and later at the switch on ceremony of Project BETA at Harvard university and remained in touch thereafter. At the time, I worked at the Ohio State University as a research associate in the Astronomy department, and ran a computer company. I worked first with Walter Mitchell reducing data he collected on Skylab's solar telescope, identifying spectra on the sun . Then with John Kraus reducing data he collected with 'Big Ear'. Since I made substantive contributions to the FFT analyser design developed by the Berkley team when at OSU, the FFT analyzer for use at Harvard's telescope in the years preceding META then BETA starting in 1983, Paul Horowitz donated META the predecessor of BETA to OSU's Big Ear for this reason, and I was there to collect it! I was invited at Carl's urging to attend the lecture they had planned, and PBS' NOVA even filmed me! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0_cpy30Los I'm at 53:33 and was sporting a moustache then! As this photo from that time attests; http://www.naapo.org/NAAPO-News/Vol04/v04n01pic2.gif I invented the computer based cash register; https://www.google.com/patents/US4903200 and had access to a lot of hardware that was I made available for free to graduate students, to get things built. Liar. I see that you are resigned to believe what you wish to think, but I knew Carl well. I'm sorry you can't see that. -- "False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the soul with evil." -- Socrates |
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Kepler Mission Mystery
Mookie in his usual "me, me, ME" mode...
William Mook wrote: On Thursday, August 11, 2016 at 3:09:47 PM UTC+12, Fred J. McCall wrote: William Mook wrote: My friend Carl Sagan ... Carl Sagan couldn't have picked you out of a lineup. I met Sagan following the 20th anniversary of Project Ozma in 1980 and later at the switch on ceremony of Project BETA at Harvard university and remained in touch thereafter. At the time, I worked at the Ohio State University as a research associate in the Astronomy department, and ran a computer company. I worked first with Walter Mitchell reducing data he collected on Skylab's solar telescope, identifying spectra on the sun . Then with John Kraus reducing data he collected with 'Big Ear'. Since I made substantive contributions to the FFT analyser design developed by the Berkley team when at OSU, the FFT analyzer for use at Harvard's telescope in the years preceding META then BETA starting in 1983, Paul Horowitz donated META the predecessor of BETA to OSU's Big Ear for this reason, and I was there to collect it! I was invited at Carl's urging to attend the lecture they had planned, and PBS' NOVA even filmed me! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0_cpy30Los I'm at 53:33 and was sporting a moustache then! As this photo from that time attests; http://www.naapo.org/NAAPO-News/Vol04/v04n01pic2.gif I invented the computer based cash register; https://www.google.com/patents/US4903200 and had access to a lot of hardware that was I made available for free to graduate students, to get things built. Liar. I see that you are resigned to believe what you wish to think, but I knew Carl well. I'm sorry you can't see that. -- "False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the soul with evil." -- Socrates |
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Fred, you called me a liar when I said Carl Sagan was my friend. Now you act like I'm just talking about myself for no good reason. You're the one being dishonest here. Not me.
On Friday, August 12, 2016 at 4:09:12 PM UTC+12, Fred J. McCall wrote: Mookie in his usual "me, me, ME" mode... William Mook wrote: On Thursday, August 11, 2016 at 3:09:47 PM UTC+12, Fred J. McCall wrote: William Mook wrote: My friend Carl Sagan ... Carl Sagan couldn't have picked you out of a lineup. I met Sagan following the 20th anniversary of Project Ozma in 1980 and later at the switch on ceremony of Project BETA at Harvard university and remained in touch thereafter. At the time, I worked at the Ohio State University as a research associate in the Astronomy department, and ran a computer company. I worked first with Walter Mitchell reducing data he collected on Skylab's solar telescope, identifying spectra on the sun . Then with John Kraus reducing data he collected with 'Big Ear'. Since I made substantive contributions to the FFT analyser design developed by the Berkley team when at OSU, the FFT analyzer for use at Harvard's telescope in the years preceding META then BETA starting in 1983, Paul Horowitz donated META the predecessor of BETA to OSU's Big Ear for this reason, and I was there to collect it! I was invited at Carl's urging to attend the lecture they had planned, and PBS' NOVA even filmed me! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0_cpy30Los I'm at 53:33 and was sporting a moustache then! As this photo from that time attests; http://www.naapo.org/NAAPO-News/Vol04/v04n01pic2.gif I invented the computer based cash register; https://www.google.com/patents/US4903200 and had access to a lot of hardware that was I made available for free to graduate students, to get things built. Liar. I see that you are resigned to believe what you wish to think, but I knew Carl well. I'm sorry you can't see that. -- "False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the soul with evil." -- Socrates |
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On 8/10/2016 11:35 AM, William Mook wrote:
http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog...nted-rate.html They may be in process of enclosing star using self replicating machinery. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20140...e-in-our-reach Consider flowers blooming after a spring rain in the Kalahari. An amazing sight by the way; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJTZl5CfNeo&app=desktop Just as a desert blooms after a spring rain giving rise to millions of plants from the wilderness so to that the present epoch is giving rise to millions of worlds more sane and civilised than we. Our oligarchy in its narrow interests have already doomed our civilisation to a poor to nonexistent role in the great cosmic stage. Which is too damn bad. Had Goddard and Oberth met as friends and the resources of World War One been expended on space travel as we entered the 20th century we would be a space faring civilisation today and be building our own Dyson sphere. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLkC7ralR30&app=desktop Since a hobby of mine is complexity science, or self organizing systems, I tend to agree the universe is, or will be, teeming with life. I suspect we are among the first 'bloom' of life across the universe as I believe the universe became favorable for life at roughly the same time. But I also believe an advanced civilization would understand the simplicity of nature, and take it's lessons to heart. Which would translate to societies that know how to exist within their means, and to societies that already have the 'secrets' to nature and no longer need to travel elsewhere to discover them. As their curiosity would already be satisfied by understanding life evolves everywhere it can and from simple universal processes that can as easily be observed in a simple passing cloud as can be seen in a distant star or alien planet. Truly advanced life won't need to, or want to, colonize or travel among the stars. We need and want to do those things because in general we DO NOT yet understand the true simplicity and majesty of nature and evolution, and are not yet advanced enough to learn from those lessons and apply them to society. The secret to nature is extraordinarily simple, perhaps too simple for most to believe. The most common instinct for reductionist science is to define what came first, whether a big bang, ultimate particle, God or missing link. But if we extrapolate backwards in an evolving system what do we find is the ultimate starting point? It's disorder! As evolution is a process tha creates order. For a solar system, the ultimate starting point is a vast interstellar cloud of gas and dust which has been perturbed. A random system...randomly disturbed! Or the definition of zero order. For life it's the oft cited 'primordial soup' and perhaps a stray bolt of lighting. Again a random fluid, randomly disturbed. Neither solid or gas, neither simple or chaotic but like the duality of light an entanglement of both opposites in possibility, as in a fluid. For, say, an idea, when facts and imagination are at simultaneous maximums, the opposites in possibilities are entangled, the better idea emerges as if by magic. And there is a term common to all three scenarios above, for universe, life and everything else. Disorder!~ "I found the words to every thought I ever had but One And that defies me As a Hand did try to chalk the Sun To Races nurtured in the Dark How would your own begin? Can Blaze be shown in Cochineal Or Noon in Mazarin?" Where uncertainty, or complexity is at a maximum neither solid or gas, neither facts or imagination then self organization spontaneously emerges. Where uncertainty or zero order exists, nature begins. When the Second Law has done it's job well, that is the ideal initial conditions for life. The only place, zero order or maximum uncertainty which defies any objective definition is the one place where life and order begins. Which also happens to be a perfectly good definition of God. Jonathan Growth of Man -- like Growth of Nature Gravitates within Atmosphere, and Sun endorse it Bit it stir -- alone Each -- its difficult Ideal Must achieve -- Itself Through the solitary prowess Of a Silent Life -- Effort -- is the sole condition Patience of Itself Patience of opposing forces And intact Belief Looking on -- is the Department Of its Audience But Transaction -- is assisted By no Countenance Poems By E Dickinson s |
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Kepler Mission Mystery
On Monday, August 15, 2016 at 3:31:20 AM UTC+12, Jonathan wrote:
On 8/10/2016 11:35 AM, William Mook wrote: http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog...nted-rate.html They may be in process of enclosing star using self replicating machinery. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20140...e-in-our-reach Consider flowers blooming after a spring rain in the Kalahari. An amazing sight by the way; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJTZl5CfNeo&app=desktop Just as a desert blooms after a spring rain giving rise to millions of plants from the wilderness so to that the present epoch is giving rise to millions of worlds more sane and civilised than we. Our oligarchy in its narrow interests have already doomed our civilisation to a poor to nonexistent role in the great cosmic stage. Which is too damn bad. Had Goddard and Oberth met as friends and the resources of World War One been expended on space travel as we entered the 20th century we would be a space faring civilisation today and be building our own Dyson sphere. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLkC7ralR30&app=desktop Since a hobby of mine is complexity science, or self organizing systems, I tend to agree the universe is, or will be, teeming with life. I suspect we are among the first 'bloom' of life across the universe as I believe the universe became favorable for life at roughly the same time. But I also believe an advanced civilization would understand the simplicity of nature, and take it's lessons to heart. What is simpler than expanding the range of a species? All species extend their range when possible. Why would humanity abandon this survival strategy? Why would any intelligent species? https://web.stanford.edu/group/stanf...Expansion.html Which would translate to societies that know how to exist within their means, Why would knowing the resources within a given range of a species necessarily limit its desire to expand its range? Range expansion occurs across all species today. Why does 'knowing' something necessarily change that natural instinct toward expansion? and to societies that already have the 'secrets' to nature and no longer need to travel elsewhere to discover them. Freeman Dyson said it best, this little planet gives too small a range to the human imagination. This is a restatement of a thinking being of the fundamental instinct to expand our range. Carl Sagan also supports this notion. |
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