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Old March 18th 05, 04:47 AM
Rand Simberg
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On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:59:21 -0500, in a place far, far away, "Scott
Hedrick" made the phosphor on my monitor glow in
such a way as to indicate that:


"Pat Flannery" wrote in message
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I
still think this is an odd way to fish, but using thermite to boil a
pond full of ducks is a little odd also, but at least does not lack in
imagination.


Depends on how hungry you are. I don't really care about fishing, so if I
was hungry, and had one available, I'd consider dropping a grenade.

Sure, there's not much sport in it, but the goal isn't to enjoy sport, it's
to eat.


Reminds me of the old joke about the two guys in a boat. One of them
tosses a stick of dynamite into the pond, and reaps the results by
skimming the stunned fish off the top. His companion starts to
complain, and the first one says, "Hey, you wanna talk, or you wanna
fish?"
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Old March 18th 05, 10:47 AM
Pat Flannery
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Scott Hedrick wrote:

imagination.



Depends on how hungry you are. I don't really care about fishing, so if I
was hungry, and had one available, I'd consider dropping a grenade.



Works fine on fish; the way to down ducks is to emplace a six foot long
piece of 8" cast iron plumbing pipe in the ground near a slough, stick
around a quarter pound of gunpowder in the base of it, and pile in some
rags for tamping- and around 3 pounds of screws, bolts, and small scrap
metal on top of the wadding... scare the ducks airborne from the far
side of the slough, so that they fly at low altitude overhead, and set
the ******* off.
With luck, you can down 25 to 50 ducks at a time- what this lacks in
sportsmanship it more than makes up for in efficiency.

Pat
  #253  
Old March 18th 05, 05:29 PM
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"Scott Hedrick" wrote in message
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"Andrew Gray" wrote in message
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The leverage to *get* an acceptable contract is what I suspect Ami is
referring to


The error is in assuming leverage on an individual basis- the *market* has
leverage. If a business can fill a position for less than what you are
willing to accept, then clearly what you want is more than what the market
is willing to pay. If *nobody* was willing to work for what was offered,
then the employer would have to either raise the ante or live without the
labor. If there is someone more desperate or willing than you, then *you*
need to reconsider your position.

However that assumes an elastic market (I think that is the correct term).
If, on the other hand, you have a small town where a high percentage of the
jobs are with the same employer, you have a situation where the employer can
pay less in wages because the cost to the potential employees of finding
work elsewhere is higher (relocation, movement away from family), especially
if the employee is dependent on either income from other family members or
additional jobs. There is a reason why, back in the 19th century, company
towns were able to exploit (by an reasonable term) their workers.


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Old March 18th 05, 05:36 PM
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"Pat Flannery" wrote in message
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With luck, you can down 25 to 50 ducks at a time- what this lacks in
sportsmanship it more than makes up for in efficiency.


*Then*, one can wait to see what that many duck carcasses will attract, and
have at it.

Sportsmanship, hell- I'm hungry!


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Old March 18th 05, 05:38 PM
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"Pat Flannery" wrote in message
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Ami Silberman wrote:

The recipie I particularily remember is Chinese Tea Duck. You take a
airtight (or nearly so) container, put in about a cup of loose tea leaves
and a cup of raw rice, a wire rack, and a duck. Stick it on top of the
stove for about an hour and a half. If the container isn't airtight, you
may have to open up all your windows and disconnect the fire alarm. (This
is what happened when we tried it.) The duck is absolutely delicious. It
does seem an odd way of cooking. My theory was that some guy centuries ago
had a warehouse where he stored rice and tea, and kept a few ducks in the
attic. One night, a drunken Toshiro Mifune crept in, looking for the
hidden Samurai armor, and accidentally set fire to the place. The poor
owner was distraught, but kept wondering "what is that wonderful smell"...

Now that I've got to try! Is there a particular type of tea to use? Like
Green Tea for a male Mallard?

Pat


We used a fairly robust black tea, Lapsang Souchong IIRC. I don't remember
where we got the recipe though. We also prepared lacquered duck, which is
basted in a sauce made from honey and "quatre epices" or "four spice
powder", which is a French concoction made with cloves, cinnamon, and a
couple of other ingredients which I can't remember anymore.


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Old March 18th 05, 05:38 PM
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Eric Chomko wrote:

You'd probably miss with a shotgun as well. And I wouldn't advise

shooting
a shotgun into a barrel. But that's just me.


My dad had some long-distance friends over many years ago. They started
having fun with a shotgun. One of them shot a bucket of drywall mud, which
promptly exploded.

Drywall fell from that tree for years afterwards.


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Old March 18th 05, 05:39 PM
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On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 12:36:20 -0500, Scott Hedrick wrote:

"Pat Flannery" wrote...


With luck, you can down 25 to 50 ducks at a time- what this lacks in
sportsmanship it more than makes up for in efficiency.


*Then*, one can wait to see what that many duck carcasses will attract,


An equal-sized flock of homonecrophiliac ducks?

...and have at it.


That's one way of putting it...

Sportsmanship, hell- I'm hungry!


Er...

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Old March 18th 05, 07:45 PM
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Pat Flannery wrote:

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around a quarter pound of gunpowder in the base of it, and pile in some
rags for tamping- and around 3 pounds of screws, bolts, and small scrap
metal on top of the wadding


hey, you forgot the two cast iron balls connected by chain -- to topple
the duck's rigging!

/dps

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Old March 18th 05, 08:56 PM
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Eric Chomko wrote:

Rand Simberg ) wrote:
: What leverage is needed? If the employee doesn't get paid what was
: stipulated at the time of hire, the employer is in breach of the
: contract, and he can quit, just as he can be fired if he doesn't do
: the job. That's why it's a mutually-agreed employment contract.

The contract is nothing but a piece of paper without a fair justice
system.


Fear of retaliation seems to be why so many WalMart workers don't argue
when told to do "off the clock" overtime. This results in many of them
being paid less than minimum wage; certainly less than the contract
promised. Corporations can and do operate successfully while still
treating employees as humans and the common weal as important, but it is
rare in a society without something to keep greed from being excessive.

/dps

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Old March 18th 05, 09:31 PM
Pat Flannery
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Ami Silberman wrote:



Now that I've got to try! Is there a particular type of tea to use? Like
Green Tea for a male Mallard?

Pat



We used a fairly robust black tea, Lapsang Souchong IIRC.


That's my favorite tea, BTW. The concept of your recipe seems to be to
produce smoked duck if I'm reading it right.

Pat
 




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