Comrade Cameron! To the Moon!

Well, I'm sure he will bring a movie camera along at least:
http://www.seacoastonline.com/articl...NEWS-110609885
What's amusing about this is that it will be basically a Zond lunar-loop
mission over forty years after it was originally planned to occur.

Pat

Oh ****, now all the Moon Hoaxers will say it was faked and that he
helped fake it!

On 6/06/2011 19:09, Pat Flannery wrote:
Well, I'm sure he will bring a movie camera along at least:
http://www.seacoastonline.com/articl...NEWS-110609885
What's amusing about this is that it will be basically a Zond lunar-loop
mission over forty years after it was originally planned to occur.

Pat

"Pat Flannery" wrote in message
dakotatelephone...
Well, I'm sure he will bring a movie camera along at least:
http://www.seacoastonline.com/articl...NEWS-110609885
What's amusing about this is that it will be basically a Zond lunar-loop
mission over forty years after it was originally planned to occur.


This is nuts! Why don't the Russians send a piloted mission first to
show that they can do this? Cameron is taking an awfull large risk
since even the Soviet state couldn't get this done. Sounds more liks
some elaborate hoax to me and I'll bet there's a clause in the contract
that he'll lose his downpayment (10%) if the trip doesn't go through.

What are the Russians going to offer next? A $500 million Mars flyby
trip? A $1 billion Moon vacation?

On 6/06/2011 7:09 PM, Pat Flannery wrote:
Well, I'm sure he will bring a movie camera along at least:
http://www.seacoastonline.com/articl...NEWS-110609885
What's amusing about this is that it will be basically a Zond lunar-loop
mission over forty years after it was originally planned to occur.

Pat

The article's wrong on one very important point: "Only 24 people have
seen the dark side of the moon, and the sight of the Earth rising behind
the moon must be one of the most amazing moments in anyone's life." -
it's actually 22 people - John Young and Gene Cernan both orbited the
Moon on two occasions - each Apollo had three _crew_ members and eight
Apollo's orbited the moon, but that works out to be 24 _crew_ members,
not 22 people.

I wonder what that does for the accuracy of the rest of the statements.

On 06/06/2011 08:35 AM, Alan Erskine wrote:
On 6/06/2011 7:09 PM, Pat Flannery wrote:
Well, I'm sure he will bring a movie camera along at least:
http://www.seacoastonline.com/articl...NEWS-110609885
What's amusing about this is that it will be basically a Zond lunar-loop
mission over forty years after it was originally planned to occur.

Pat

The article's wrong on one very important point: "Only 24 people have
seen the dark side of the moon, and the sight of the Earth rising behind
the moon must be one of the most amazing moments in anyone's life." -
it's actually 22 people - John Young and Gene Cernan both orbited the
Moon on two occasions - each Apollo had three _crew_ members and eight
Apollo's orbited the moon, but that works out to be 24 _crew_ members,
not 22 people.

No, the article is right. Nine Apollo missions (8, 10-17) have been
around the moon, for a total of 27 seats, but three men (Young, Cernan,
and Lovell) flew twice, for a total of 24.

I wonder what that does for the accuracy of the rest of the statements.

You forgot Apollo 13. Although 13 did not orbit the moon, it did go
around it and its crew saw the far side, so it counts (and therefore,
Lovell likewise counts as a two-time moon traveler).

Am 06.06.2011 15:35, schrieb Alan Erskine:
On 6/06/2011 7:09 PM, Pat Flannery wrote:
Well, I'm sure he will bring a movie camera along at least:
http://www.seacoastonline.com/articl...NEWS-110609885
What's amusing about this is that it will be basically a Zond lunar-loop
mission over forty years after it was originally planned to occur.

Pat

The article's wrong on one very important point: "Only 24 people have
seen the dark side of the moon, ...

Another point: he said "dark side" when he meant "far side".

How many people have seen a half moon?
They all looked at a half of the dark side.
Two weeks later the other half of the near side is dark.

On 7/06/2011 12:43 AM, Jorge R. Frank wrote:
On 06/06/2011 08:35 AM, Alan Erskine wrote:
On 6/06/2011 7:09 PM, Pat Flannery wrote:
Well, I'm sure he will bring a movie camera along at least:
http://www.seacoastonline.com/articl...NEWS-110609885
What's amusing about this is that it will be basically a Zond lunar-loop
mission over forty years after it was originally planned to occur.

Pat

The article's wrong on one very important point: "Only 24 people have
seen the dark side of the moon, and the sight of the Earth rising behind
the moon must be one of the most amazing moments in anyone's life." -
it's actually 22 people - John Young and Gene Cernan both orbited the
Moon on two occasions - each Apollo had three _crew_ members and eight
Apollo's orbited the moon, but that works out to be 24 _crew_ members,
not 22 people.

No, the article is right. Nine Apollo missions (8, 10-17) have been
around the moon, for a total of 27 seats, but three men (Young, Cernan,
and Lovell) flew twice, for a total of 24.

I wonder what that does for the accuracy of the rest of the statements.

You forgot Apollo 13. Although 13 did not orbit the moon, it did go
around it and its crew saw the far side, so it counts (and therefore,
Lovell likewise counts as a two-time moon traveler).

I did not forget Apollo 13 at all. However, I was referring to
orbiters, not just circumnavigators. But you're right, they did indeed
see the far-side.

" Another point: he said "dark side" when he meant "far side"

I grew up in the 50s and 60s and always remember it being called the dark
side. One of those things the HS science teachers tried to explain wasn't
correct - the so called dark side wasn't always dark. But it was commonly
called that. One of the early quasi science shows on TV - might have been
the Disney Tomorrowland episode about circumnavigating the moon for the
first time literally takes it to be the dark side - when the get behind the
moon they're firing illumination flares so they can see the surface detail
below in the "dark"

Val Kraut

On Mon, 6 Jun 2011 15:42:28 -0400, "Val Kraut"
wrote:


" Another point: he said "dark side" when he meant "far side"

I grew up in the 50s and 60s and always remember it being called the dark
side. One of those things the HS science teachers tried to explain wasn't
correct - the so called dark side wasn't always dark. But it was commonly
called that. One of the early quasi science shows on TV - might have been
the Disney Tomorrowland episode about circumnavigating the moon for the
first time literally takes it to be the dark side - when the get behind the
moon they're firing illumination flares so they can see the surface detail
below in the "dark"

Val Kraut



I've always just taken it as a metaphor. It's "dark", so to speak,
because we can't see it.

On 06/06/2011 12:04 PM, Alan Erskine wrote:
On 7/06/2011 12:43 AM, Jorge R. Frank wrote:
On 06/06/2011 08:35 AM, Alan Erskine wrote:
On 6/06/2011 7:09 PM, Pat Flannery wrote:
Well, I'm sure he will bring a movie camera along at least:
http://www.seacoastonline.com/articl...NEWS-110609885
What's amusing about this is that it will be basically a Zond
lunar-loop
mission over forty years after it was originally planned to occur.

Pat

The article's wrong on one very important point: "Only 24 people have
seen the dark side of the moon, and the sight of the Earth rising behind
the moon must be one of the most amazing moments in anyone's life." -
it's actually 22 people - John Young and Gene Cernan both orbited the
Moon on two occasions - each Apollo had three _crew_ members and eight
Apollo's orbited the moon, but that works out to be 24 _crew_ members,
not 22 people.

No, the article is right. Nine Apollo missions (8, 10-17) have been
around the moon, for a total of 27 seats, but three men (Young, Cernan,
and Lovell) flew twice, for a total of 24.

I wonder what that does for the accuracy of the rest of the statements.

You forgot Apollo 13. Although 13 did not orbit the moon, it did go
around it and its crew saw the far side, so it counts (and therefore,
Lovell likewise counts as a two-time moon traveler).

I did not forget Apollo 13 at all. However, I was referring to orbiters,
not just circumnavigators. But you're right, they did indeed see the
far-side.

The article was referring to circumnavigators, not orbiters. So it's not
a matter of the article being wrong (if it was wrong on anything, it was
in using "dark side" instead of "far side").