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Brian Thorn wrote:
True, but look at our *second* jet, coming down the pike not far behind and really intended to be the first US jet to go into combat. The Lockheed P-80. The odds would have been even. It would have been fascinating to see those two mix it up, and see who would win. The engine on the P-70 was certainly a lot more reliable than those on the Me-262. According to Eric Brown in his "Wings Of The Luftwaffe" book, the little He-162 could fly like a bat out of hell, and might have been a real problem for a P-70 to run into: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinkel_He_162 Pat |
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Jeff Findley wrote:
Ya I was thinking A-10 when I typed that, what's an A-20? WWII era twin-engined light bomber. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-20_Havoc rick jones -- The computing industry isn't as much a game of "Follow The Leader" as it is one of "Ring Around the Rosy" or perhaps "Duck Duck Goose." - Rick Jones these opinions are mine, all mine; HP might not want them anyway... feel free to post, OR email to rick.jones2 in hp.com but NOT BOTH... |
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They are running it right now coincidentally.
It was a under-appreciated aircraft given its versatility... sort of the American equivalent of the Ju-88. Ever seen this BTW?: http://www.zenoswarbirdvideos.com/Mo...voc_Stuff.html I might have, but had forgotten about the site - thanks. Somewhere out there there used to be a site maintained on the 410th Bomb Group that had a picture of my father Richard E. Jones, standing with some other flyer. rick jones -- Wisdom Teeth are impacted, people are affected by the effects of events. these opinions are mine, all mine; HP might not want them anyway... feel free to post, OR email to rick.jones2 in hp.com but NOT BOTH... |
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"Pat Flannery" wrote in message news Brian Thorn wrote: True, but look at our *second* jet, coming down the pike not far behind and really intended to be the first US jet to go into combat. The Lockheed P-80. The odds would have been even. It would have been fascinating to see those two mix it up, and see who would win. The engine on the P-70 was certainly a lot more reliable than those on the Me-262. According to Eric Brown in his "Wings Of The Luftwaffe" book, the little He-162 could fly like a bat out of hell, and might have been a real problem for a P-70 to run into: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinkel_He_162 Looking at that pic of the 162, my first question is how did they bail out with the intake right behind the seat? I found this, seems the Germans were first at ejection seats too.... "The first ejection seats were developed independently during World War II by Heinkel and SAAB. Early models were powered by compressed air and the first aircraft to be fitted with such a system was the Heinkel He 280 " "In late 1944, the Heinkel He 162 featured a new type of ejection seat, this time fired by an explosive cartridge. In this system the seat rode on wheels set between two pipes running up the back of the cockpit. When lowered into position, caps at the top of the seat fitted over the pipes to close them. Cartridges, basically identical to shotgun shells, were placed in the bottom of the pipes, facing upward. When fired, the gases would fill the pipes, "popping" the caps off the end, and thereby forcing the seat to ride up the pipes on its wheels and out of the aircraft.," http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ejection_seat Pat |
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"Pat Flannery" wrote in message news Brian Thorn wrote: True, but look at our *second* jet, coming down the pike not far behind and really intended to be the first US jet to go into combat. The Lockheed P-80. The odds would have been even. It would have been fascinating to see those two mix it up, and see who would win. The engine on the P-70 was certainly a lot more reliable than those on the Me-262. According to Eric Brown in his "Wings Of The Luftwaffe" book, the little He-162 could fly like a bat out of hell, and might have been a real problem for a P-70 to run into: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinkel_He_162 Looking at that pic of the 162, my first question is how did they bail out with the intake right behind the seat? I found this, seems the Germans were first at ejection seats too.... "The first ejection seats were developed independently during World War II by Heinkel and SAAB. Early models were powered by compressed air and the first aircraft to be fitted with such a system was the Heinkel He 280 " "In late 1944, the Heinkel He 162 featured a new type of ejection seat, this time fired by an explosive cartridge. In this system the seat rode on wheels set between two pipes running up the back of the cockpit. When lowered into position, caps at the top of the seat fitted over the pipes to close them. Cartridges, basically identical to shotgun shells, were placed in the bottom of the pipes, facing upward. When fired, the gases would fill the pipes, "popping" the caps off the end, and thereby forcing the seat to ride up the pipes on its wheels and out of the aircraft.," http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ejection_seat Pat |
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