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New Falcon 9 photos
New shots of the whole assembled rocket at the Cape:
http://www.spacex.com/updates.php Nice looking rocket; bears some resemblance to a Zenit booster. Pat |
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New Falcon 9 photos
"Pat Flannery" wrote in message dakotatelephone... New shots of the whole assembled rocket at the Cape: http://www.spacex.com/updates.php Nice looking rocket; bears some resemblance to a Zenit booster. Will be interesting to see how soon they can fly it. |
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New Falcon 9 photos
"Legato" wrote in message ... "Pat Flannery" wrote in message dakotatelephone... New shots of the whole assembled rocket at the Cape: http://www.spacex.com/updates.php Nice looking rocket; bears some resemblance to a Zenit booster. Will be interesting to see how soon they can fly it. It's pretty shocking how big this thing really is. In the second picture from the top there's a full size truck which gives you some indication of the size. The payload fairing along must be something like 6m in length. You can put a BIG satellite in there! |
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New Falcon 9 photos
"Legato" wrote in message
... "Legato" wrote in message ... "Pat Flannery" wrote in message dakotatelephone... New shots of the whole assembled rocket at the Cape: http://www.spacex.com/updates.php Nice looking rocket; bears some resemblance to a Zenit booster. Will be interesting to see how soon they can fly it. It's pretty shocking how big this thing really is. In the second picture from the top there's a full size truck which gives you some indication of the size. The payload fairing along must be something like 6m in length. You can put a BIG satellite in there! When I look at these images thru my past engineering experience, I see what we lost when Washington killed Apollo. *Knowhow*. Most of the theory here is easily accessible to math, physics, and engineering students. All of the theory is necessary, however, it's of no use without the knowhow to make it real. It's this knowhow that is the longterm payoff we get from a company like SpaceX, and it comes the hard way. As in the sloshing rocket fuel problem, or the too-quick second stage ignition. (I suspect both of those led to small workforce decrements at SpaceX shortly after they happened.) But over the long run SpaceX is quickly becoming what we need to get out to space again. (I hope!) Titeotwawki -- mha [sci.space.policy 2009 Dec 03] |
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New Falcon 9 photos
On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 18:14:58 GMT, "Martha Adams"
wrote: Titeotwawki -- mha [sci.space.policy 2009 Dec 03] I see you're still in Checkuary (the period of a new month where you still write the old one on letters and checks.) :-) Brian |
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Martha Adams wrote:
"Legato" wrote in message ... "Legato" wrote in message ... "Pat Flannery" wrote in message dakotatelephone... New shots of the whole assembled rocket at the Cape: http://www.spacex.com/updates.php Nice looking rocket; bears some resemblance to a Zenit booster. Will be interesting to see how soon they can fly it. It's pretty shocking how big this thing really is. In the second picture from the top there's a full size truck which gives you some indication of the size. The payload fairing along must be something like 6m in length. You can put a BIG satellite in there! When I look at these images thru my past engineering experience, I see what we lost when Washington killed Apollo. *Knowhow*. Most of the theory here is easily accessible to math, physics, and engineering students. All of the theory is necessary, however, it's of no use without the knowhow to make it real. It's this knowhow that is the longterm payoff we get from a company like SpaceX, and it comes the hard way. As in the sloshing rocket fuel problem, or the too-quick second stage ignition. (I suspect both of those led to small workforce decrements at SpaceX shortly after they happened.) But over the long run SpaceX is quickly becoming what we need to get out to space again. (I hope!) What I see is a fairly involved EELV type operation. Tanks are big. Even five meter tanks are real big. I don't think we're ready for ten meter tanks yet. I see a lot of work could be done with five and under. Even small rockets like EELVs are great big complicated beasts. That's why I like the reusability aspects of rocketry. |
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New Falcon 9 photos
"Brian Thorn" wrote in message
... On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 18:14:58 GMT, "Martha Adams" wrote: Titeotwawki -- mha [sci.space.policy 2009 Dec 03] I see you're still in Checkuary (the period of a new month where you still write the old one on letters and checks.) :-) Brian Oops ...Yeah. -- mha |
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New Falcon 9 photos
"Pat Flannery" wrote in message dakotatelephone... New shots of the whole assembled rocket at the Cape: http://www.spacex.com/updates.php Nice looking rocket; bears some resemblance to a Zenit booster. NASA will be extremely pleased if this thing actually flies. It will give them extra options to shorten the gap between the remaining Shuttle flights and Ares becoming operational. No need to book Soyuz tickets (with all the complicated politics involved) if Falcon 9 + Dragon can do the job. |
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New Falcon 9 photos
On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:34:01 +0100, "Legato"
wrote: NASA will be extremely pleased if this thing actually flies. It will give them extra options to shorten the gap between the remaining Shuttle flights and Ares becoming operational. No need to book Soyuz tickets (with all the complicated politics involved) if Falcon 9 + Dragon can do the job. You're putting a lot of faith in a company that blew through three Falcon 1's before finally finding one that worked, and seemed to put more effort into its hype machine than in its rocketry. I wish SpaceX success, but I have grave doubts that they'll have much anytime soon. Brian |
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New Falcon 9 photos
On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 11:01:38 -0600, in a place far, far away, Brian
Thorn made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that: On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:34:01 +0100, "Legato" wrote: NASA will be extremely pleased if this thing actually flies. It will give them extra options to shorten the gap between the remaining Shuttle flights and Ares becoming operational. No need to book Soyuz tickets (with all the complicated politics involved) if Falcon 9 + Dragon can do the job. You're putting a lot of faith in a company that blew through three Falcon 1's before finally finding one that worked, and seemed to put more effort into its hype machine than in its rocketry. I'm pretty sure that they've put much more effort into their rocketry than their "hype machine." This statement is nonsensical. If it really "seemed" that way to you, you weren't paying much attention to their rocketry. How many rockets did early military and NASA "blow through" before finding one that worked? I wish SpaceX success, but I have grave doubts that they'll have much anytime soon. They have a Falcon 9 assembled at the launch site. |
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