Dark energy or ether ??

What is the difference between classical ether that pervades all space
and Dark energy? Dark energy is also assumed to pervade all space and
is supposed to have a density of 10^-29 kg/m^3 or so.Does the
existence of Dark energy pose any threat to the results of michelson
morley experiment?

On 13 Mar, 15:51, "Sandesh" wrote:
What is the difference between classical ether that pervades all space
and Dark energy?

The classical "luminiferous aether" was a rigid solid
material which pervaded the universe. Light was supposed
to be a tranvserse wave in this material.

Dark energy is a name for what looks more like a repulsive
term in gravity at very large distances so there is very
little similarity.

Dark energy is also assumed to pervade all space and
is supposed to have a density of 10^-29 kg/m^3 or so.Does the
existence of Dark energy pose any threat to the results of michelson
morley experiment?

No, the results of an experiment stand regardless. Only
the inferences we might draw from the results can change
as more information becomes available.

George

On Mar 13, 11:51 am, "Sandesh" wrote:
What is the difference between classical ether that pervades all space
and Dark energy?

The classical has assumed properties that
are inconistent. Like infinitely rigid solids,
and perfect (noise-free) information transmissiom.

The dark energy is completey a result of GTR,
that presumably gets energy fom gravity waves.



Dark energy is also assumed to pervade all space and
is supposed to have a density of 10^-29 kg/m^3 or so.Does the
existence of Dark energy pose any threat to the results of michelson
morley experiment?

"Sandesh" wrote in message oups.com...
What is the difference between classical ether that pervades all space
and Dark energy? Dark energy is also assumed to pervade all space and
is supposed to have a density of 10^-29 kg/m^3 or so.Does the
existence of Dark energy pose any threat to the results of michelson
morley experiment?

Nothing can change a result. No fringeshift was detected, end
of story. The only thing that can change is your understanding.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...mx4dummies.htm
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...nac/Sagnac.htm

Why are you people always looking for something exotic?

Dark energy is gravity, and the source of gravity is a large mass of a
galaxy rotating.

The spiral galaxy not only rotates, it builds powerful swirling forces
of gravity.

A spiral galaxy is a cyclone and as a cyclone it hovers in place until
it fully forms,
then begins to rotate and feed on it's own energy of motion. Each star
is free-falling,
but the sum of the motion is very cyclone-like with spiral arms as
seen in hurricanes.
A galaxy is a gravitational cyclone, gravity is weak and the whole
galactic object
is bound gravitationally locally, point to point, and the whole
structure rotates
chaotically with built-up energy as cyclones do: powerfully with
intense energies.
This intense energy (sum freefalling energy) is dark energy which is
more powerful
gravitationally than the weight of the galaxy.

There is no need to relate gravity to ether, motion explains gravity
(a force that
sets matter into motion), but just how much is motion relates to
gravity is unknown).

The energy that arises in a rotation of a large gravitational mass is
dynamic in terms
of cyclones.

It is easier to say that Bush is a radical supremacist guilty of
crimes against humanity
or that Google runs a mind control company over the masses criminally
than to
say that dark energy builds powerful gravitational forces in the
gravitational cyclone
system of powerfully rotating spiral galaxies. When mass moves it does
not pull
all objects along like the wind on the road produced by a passing race
bus. But when
the entire mass of a galaxy rotates together in a cyclone environment,
all free-falling
objects in the vicinity of the galaxy's disk 'feel' the pull toward
the virtual disk's
powerful rotation. It is dark energy that arose like winds that pulls
mass toward the
galaxy's disk's gravitational winds.

Yes, dark energy is a gravitational wind, but no, dark energy is not
ether but mass
based.

Dark energy is a name for what looks more like a repulsive
term in gravity at very large distances so there is very
little similarity.

Not repulsive. It is dark energy which holds our galaxy together.
It was calculated that as much as 90 percent of the mass of our
galaxy is dark energy. Without this mass-energy the galaxy would
fly apart. Dark energy is propulsive, a field that accelerates and
acts like gravity: sets matter into motion. The propulsion lays in
the cyclone layout which as cyclones in nature, as a closed system
feeds on it's own energy, and thus gains great powers of motion
like hurricanes.

The reason galaxies expand is because propulsive galaxies
are condensed by a simple force: gravity. A spiral galaxy
is loosely bound gravitationally by local forces, and only
the combination of a large volume of mass gives rise to
propulsive (flowing) gravitational currents. The expansion
of the Universe is neither a result of gravity or anti-gravity,
it is the result of all spiral galaxies becoming more robust
as they slowly condense from gravity, and with robustness
all spiral galaxies like trains are accelerating on their tracks.
Think how a hurricance hovers in place, but once it becomes
a fully-blown cyclone it begins racing on it's own. The same
happened to spiral galaxies, that they formed, but once they
turned into fully-blown cyclones they gain speed toward their
momentum and gave been slowly gaining speed ever since
their formation. Galaxies accelerating on their tracks in all
directions gives the illusion that the Universe is expanding
in an accelerated fashion.

Occasionally spiral galaxies collide and leave behind
elliptic galaxies. Currently around 70 percent of the galaxies
are racing in all directions until eventually most collide and
leave scattered elliptic galaxies behind. Our own galaxy is
in a collision course with the Andromeda galaxy.

The dark energy is completey a result of GTR,
that presumably gets energy fom gravity waves.

That's cool, waves combine and grow as the spiral
galaxy rotates as a closed cyclone system. As hurricanes
that feed their own energy, gravitational waves build up.

A large mass gains collective rotation and the whole thing
bursts gravitational winds effecting the freefall of objects.
Winds of gravity in a free-gravitational galactic formation.

Why are you people always looking for something exotic?

With knowledge scums like radical Supremacy and racism in American
history and addicted mind controlling sects like Google will **** off,
but the level is at least 80 times today in intelligence between an
ordinary 11 year old and radical supremacy criminals believing they
are in power and their 17th century laws apply on all.

Why are you people always looking for something exotic?

With knowledge scums like radical Supremacy and racism in American
history and addicted mind controlling sects like Google will **** off,
but the level is at least 80 times today in intelligence between an
ordinary 11 year old and radical supremacy criminals believing they
are in power and their 17th century laws apply on all.

It is a fact that the US government today sunk in criminal conspiracy
making most in the US government today criminals.

In a world where racism and supremacy took it's criminal blow
in the Arab world by erecting a model Iraq (still today) for all
Arab countries, an Iraq that is better than Arabs, the historical
corruption of racist supremacy in the US government went full-blown
corrupt (crimes against humanity). Like Ceausescu's bad idea to
wipe out villages in Romania causing his quick fall, Bush erects
Iraq as a model for all Arabs. A cultural and humanitarian crimes
against humanity occured that is not so distance and based
similarly on assuming power as militant and necessary. The reason
Bush didn't fall yet is because most Americans did not see
Supremacy as bad, also given most Americans are religious
and old-fashioned, not modern or educated in culture. Primitivity,
racism and supremacy has to stop when it goes world scale.
With understanding of the Universe comes understanding of
the world we live in.

Why are you people always looking for something exotic?

With knowledge scums like radical Supremacy and racism in American
history and addicted mind controlling sects like Google will **** off,
but the level is at least 80 times today in intelligence between an
ordinary 11 year old and radical supremacy criminals believing they
are in power and their 17th century laws apply on all.

It is a fact that the US government today sunk in criminal conspiracy
making most in the US government today criminals.

In a world where racism and supremacy took it's criminal blow
in the Arab world by erecting a model Iraq (still today) for all
Arab countries, an Iraq that is better than Arabs, the historical
corruption of racist supremacy in the US government went full-blown
corrupt (crimes against humanity). Like Ceausescu's bad idea to
wipe out villages in Romania causing his quick fall, Bush erects
Iraq as a model for all Arabs. A cultural and humanitarian crimes
against humanity occured that is not so distance and based
similarly on assuming power as militant and necessary. The reason
Bush didn't fall yet is because most Americans did not see
Supremacy as bad, also given most Americans are religious
and old-fashioned, not modern or educated in culture. Primitivity,
racism and supremacy has to stop when it goes world scale.
With understanding of the Universe comes understanding of
the world we live in.

The world we live in consists of criminal insanity opposing
science and the world we live in. In the world we live there
is dark energy, and it deserves theories. In the world we live
in there is humanity that is not young and it opposes radical
supremacy, the source of endless conspiracies of power,
racism and wars. Perhaps there was a distant tie, Bush
said Saddam harbors terrorists. Perhaps, I don't know,
the Taliban is not Al Quaeda. Erecting Iraq as a model country
in the Arab world, a model better than Arabs is a vision of
an ancient Empire who does not see life and culture as
important over safety. Safety is compromized with matters
of racism, police-America, and the result is criminal corruption
of government. Racism is horrible, today 80-90 percent of
Arabs think negatively of Americans while in the past Arabs
thought positively of Americans. Bush runs a USA that intends
to close political doors for the klan of militant supremacist
power driving in the government seats of conspiracies,
but diplomacy is necessary, even if the USA is a regime
infested with racists and supremacist skinheads, fascists
who think little of life and much about the system of power
that is in many regards akin to the Old Soviet Union and
nukes serving the system only and not the actual people.
Police-America puts safety above all, and compromizes
racism. By all means criminality and a death sentence of
most people in the US government for conspiracy describes
the world we live in in 2007.

Dark energy cannot have a death sentence, it is not alive
and it attributes 90 percent of the mass of our galaxy, a
force that bends light as gravity. Gravity sets matter into
motion and the propulsive nature of the cyclonal spiral
galaxy builds gravitational streams in a closed galactic
system, similar to winds in a hurricane system that
feeds its own power after its formation. As closed, a
magnitude builds in cyclones, a magnitude of motion.
As closed, the system does not fly apart, though it was
calculated that visible mass alone in our galaxy is not
enough to hold a galaxy together, the galaxy would fly
apart. The galaxy does not fly apart because it inherited
a spiral structure of a cyclone with spiral arms seen in
hurricanes, because a spiral galaxy is a full-blown
cyclone that feeds on its own energy as hurricaners do
in Bush's Universal of chemics, cyclones of nature,
specters of power and destruction, Nukes of light shines
the center brightly with a degree from college one remains
speechless of a 1940's fighterjetter who is not having enough
of being the good guy for once in war. It is 2007...