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COSMOLOGICAL CONFUSION IN EINSTEIN CRIMINAL CULT
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/03/sc...4&e i=5087%0A
THE NEW YORK TIMES: "Dark, Perhaps Forever....A decade ago, astronomers discovered that what is true for your car keys is not true for the galaxies. Having been impelled apart by the force of the Big Bang, the galaxies, in defiance of cosmic gravity, are picking up speed on a dash toward eternity. If they were keys, they would be shooting for the ceiling......Some physicists are even willing to burn down their old sainted Einstein and revise his theory of gravity, general relativity, to make the cosmic discrepancies go away." Einsteinans should not attack the old sainted Einstein, aka Divine Albert. True, Divine Albert's Divine General Relativity, just like Divine Albert's Divine Special Relativity, is an idiocy that can only confuse Einsteinians but Divine Albert's 1911 equation describing the variability of the speed of light in a gravitational field is quite correct and, by using it, Einsteinians can disperse their deep cosmological confusion: http://www.physlink.com/Education/AskExperts/ae13.cfm : "So, it is absolutely true that the speed of light is _not_ constant in a gravitational field [which, by the equivalence principle, applies as well to accelerating (non-inertial) frames of reference]….Indeed, this is exactly how Einstein did the calculation in: "On the Influence of Gravitation on the Propagation of Light," Annalen der Physik, 35, 1911. which predated the full formal development of general relativity by about four years. This paper is widely available in English. You can find a copy beginning on page 99 of the Dover book “The Principle of Relativity.” You will find in section 3 of that paper, Einstein’s derivation of the (variable) speed of light in a gravitational potential, eqn (3). The result is, c’=c0(1+V/c^2) where V is the gravitational potential relative to the point where the speed of light c0 is measured." http://www.blazelabs.com/f-g-gcont.asp "The first confirmation of a long range variation in the speed of light travelling in space came in 1964. Irwin Shapiro, it seems, was the first to make use of a previously forgotten facet of general relativity theory -- that the speed of light is reduced when it passes through a gravitational field....Faced with this evidence, Einstein stated:"In the second place our result shows that, according to the general theory of relativity, the law of the constancy of the velocity of light in vacuo, which constitutes one of the two fundamental assumptions in the special theory of relativity and to which we have already frequently referred, cannot claim any unlimited validity. A curvature of rays of light can only take place when the velocity of propagation of light varies with position."......Today we find that since the Special Theory of Relativity unfortunately became part of the so called mainstream science, it is considered a sacrilege to even suggest that the speed of light be anything other than a constant. This is somewhat surprising since even Einstein himself suggested in a paper "On the Influence of Gravitation on the Propagation of Light," Annalen der Physik, 35, 1911, that the speed of light might vary with the gravitational potential. Indeed, the variation of the speed of light in a vacuum or space is explicitly shown in Einstein's calculation for the angle at which light should bend upon the influence of gravity. One can find his calculation in his paper. The result is c'=c(1+V/c^2) where V is the gravitational potential relative to the point where the measurement is taken. 1+V/c^2 is also known as the GRAVITATIONAL REDSHIFT FACTOR." Pentcho Valev |
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On Jun 3, 1:40 am, Pentcho Valev wrote:
http://www.blazelabs.com/f-g-gcont.asp "The first confirmation of a long range variation in the speed of light travelling in space came in 1964. Irwin Shapiro, it seems, was the first to make use of a previously forgotten facet of general relativity theory -- that the speed of light is reduced when it passes through a gravitational field.... This is a well-known result to experts in general relativity. It's also well-known and easy to establish from the simple math of SR that light will slow down in an accelerating rocket. Real physicists are not confused by this. Everything you have ever read about the constancy of the speed of light is only true in the absence of gravity. Shubee |
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On Jun 3, 2:03*pm, Shubee wrote:
On Jun 3, 1:40 am, Pentcho Valev wrote: http://www.blazelabs.com/f-g-gcont.asp "The first confirmation of a long range variation in the speed of light travelling in space came in 1964. Irwin Shapiro, it seems, was the first to make use of a previously forgotten facet of general relativity theory -- that the speed of light is reduced when it passes through a gravitational field.... This is a well-known result to experts in general relativity. To half of them. The other half believe that in a gravitational field the speed of light is constant: http://www.astronomynotes.com/relativity/s4.htm "Prediction: light escaping from a large mass should lose energy---the wavelength must increase since the speed of light is constant. Stronger surface gravity produces a greater increase in the wavelength. This is a consequence of time dilation. Suppose person A on the massive object decides to send light of a specific frequency f to person B all of the time. So every second, f wave crests leave person A. The same wave crests are received by person B in an interval of time interval of (1+z) seconds. He receives the waves at a frequency of f/(1+z). Remember that the speed of light c = (the frequency f) (the wavelength L). If the frequency is reduced by (1+z) times, the wavelength must INcrease by (1+z) times: L_atB = (1+z) L_atA. In the doppler effect, this lengthening of the wavelength is called a redshift. For gravity, the effect is called a GRAVITATIONAL REDSHIFT." http://helios.gsfc.nasa.gov/qa_sp_gr.html "Is light affected by gravity? If so, how can the speed of light be constant? Wouldn't the light coming off of the Sun be slower than the light we make here? If not, why doesn't light escape a black hole? Yes, light is affected by gravity, but not in its speed. General Relativity (our best guess as to how the Universe works) gives two effects of gravity on light. It can bend light (which includes effects such as gravitational lensing), and it can change the energy of light. But it changes the energy by shifting the frequency of the light (gravitational redshift) not by changing light speed. Gravity bends light by warping space so that what the light beam sees as "straight" is not straight to an outside observer. The speed of light is still constant." Dr. Eric Christian Pentcho Valev |
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On Jun 3, 2:36*pm, Pentcho Valev wrote:
On Jun 3, 2:03*pm, Shubee wrote: On Jun 3, 1:40 am, Pentcho Valev wrote: http://www.blazelabs.com/f-g-gcont.asp "The first confirmation of a long range variation in the speed of light travelling in space came in 1964. Irwin Shapiro, it seems, was the first to make use of a previously forgotten facet of general relativity theory -- that the speed of light is reduced when it passes through a gravitational field.... This is a well-known result to experts in general relativity. To half of them. The other half believe that in a gravitational field the speed of light is constant: http://www.astronomynotes.com/relativity/s4.htm "Prediction: light escaping from a large mass should lose energy---the wavelength must increase since the speed of light is constant. Stronger surface gravity produces a greater increase in the wavelength. This is a consequence of time dilation. Suppose person A on the massive object decides to send light of a specific frequency f to person B all of the time. So every second, f wave crests leave person A. The same wave crests are received by person B in an interval of time interval of (1+z) seconds. He receives the waves at a frequency of f/(1+z). Remember that the speed of light c = (the frequency f) * (the wavelength L). If the frequency is reduced by (1+z) times, the wavelength must INcrease by (1+z) times: L_atB = (1+z) * L_atA. In the doppler effect, this lengthening of the wavelength is called a redshift. For gravity, the effect is called a GRAVITATIONAL REDSHIFT." http://helios.gsfc.nasa.gov/qa_sp_gr.html "Is light affected by gravity? If so, how can the speed of light be constant? Wouldn't the light coming off of the Sun be slower than the light we make here? If not, why doesn't light escape a black hole? Yes, light is affected by gravity, but not in its speed. General Relativity (our best guess as to how the Universe works) gives two effects of gravity on light. It can bend light (which includes effects such as gravitational lensing), and it can change the energy of light. But it changes the energy by shifting the frequency of the light (gravitational redshift) not by changing light speed. Gravity bends light by warping space so that what the light beam sees as "straight" is not straight to an outside observer. The speed of light is still constant." Dr. Eric Christian Steve Carlip, one of the silliest Einsteinians, believes and teaches that in a gravitational field the speed of light is both variable and constant: http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physic...of_light..html Steve Carlip: "Einstein went on to discover a more general theory of relativity which explained gravity in terms of curved spacetime, and he talked about the speed of light changing in this new theory. In the 1920 book "Relativity: the special and general theory" he wrote: ". . . according to the general theory of relativity, the law of the constancy of the velocity of light in vacuo, which constitutes one of the two fundamental assumptions in the special theory of relativity [. . .] cannot claim any unlimited validity. A curvature of rays of light can only take place when the velocity of propagation of light varies with position." Since Einstein talks of velocity (a vector quantity: speed with direction) rather than speed alone, it is not clear that he meant the speed will change, but the reference to special relativity suggests that he did mean so. This interpretation is perfectly valid and makes good physical sense, but a more modern interpretation is that the speed of light is constant in general relativity." Pentcho Valev |
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On Jun 3, 7:36 am, Pentcho Valev wrote:
On Jun 3, 2:03 pm, Shubee wrote: On Jun 3, 1:40 am, Pentcho Valev wrote: http://www.blazelabs.com/f-g-gcont.asp"The first confirmation of a long range variation in the speed of light travelling in space came in 1964. Irwin Shapiro, it seems, was the first to make use of a previously forgotten facet of general relativity theory -- that the speed of light is reduced when it passes through a gravitational field.... This is a well-known result to experts in general relativity. To half of them. The other half believe that in a gravitational field the speed of light is constant: http://www.astronomynotes.com/relativity/s4.htm "Prediction: light escaping from a large mass should lose energy---the wavelength must increase since the speed of light is constant. Stronger surface gravity produces a greater increase in the wavelength. This is a consequence of time dilation. Suppose person A on the massive object decides to send light of a specific frequency f to person B all of the time. So every second, f wave crests leave person A. The same wave crests are received by person B in an interval of time interval of (1+z) seconds. He receives the waves at a frequency of f/(1+z). Remember that the speed of light c = (the frequency f) (the wavelength L). If the frequency is reduced by (1+z) times, the wavelength must INcrease by (1+z) times: L_atB = (1+z) L_atA. In the doppler effect, this lengthening of the wavelength is called a redshift. For gravity, the effect is called a GRAVITATIONAL REDSHIFT." This quote is the personal opinion of Nick Strobel: Nick Strobel Bakersfield College Physical Science Dept. 1801 Panorama Drive Bakersfield, CA 93305-1219 http://www.astronomynotes.com/contact.htm I really don't believe that Bakersfield College is known for having illustrious physics teachers. http://helios.gsfc.nasa.gov/qa_sp_gr.html "Is light affected by gravity? If so, how can the speed of light be constant? Wouldn't the light coming off of the Sun be slower than the light we make here? If not, why doesn't light escape a black hole? Yes, light is affected by gravity, but not in its speed. General Relativity (our best guess as to how the Universe works) gives two effects of gravity on light. It can bend light (which includes effects such as gravitational lensing), and it can change the energy of light. But it changes the energy by shifting the frequency of the light (gravitational redshift) not by changing light speed. Gravity bends light by warping space so that what the light beam sees as "straight" is not straight to an outside observer. The speed of light is still constant." Dr. Eric Christian The bio of Dr. Eric Christian at NASA tells me that he ought to know better but how surprising is it really that not every physics PhD understands or remembers correctly the fundamentals of general relativity that he learned in graduate school? http://helios.gsfc.nasa.gov/ace/erchome.html Shubee http://www.everythingimportant.org/r...ty/special.pdf |
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On Jun 3, 8:36*am, Pentcho Valev wrote:
On Jun 3, 2:03*pm, Shubee wrote: On Jun 3, 1:40 am, Pentcho Valev wrote: http://www.blazelabs.com/f-g-gcont.asp"The first confirmation of a long range variation in the speed of light travelling in space came in 1964. Irwin Shapiro, it seems, was the first to make use of a previously forgotten facet of general relativity theory -- that the speed of light is reduced when it passes through a gravitational field.... This is a well-known result to experts in general relativity. To half of them. The other half believe that in a gravitational field the speed of light is constant: http://www.astronomynotes.com/relativity/s4.htm "Prediction: light escaping from a large mass should lose energy---the wavelength must increase since the speed of light is constant. Stronger surface gravity produces a greater increase in the wavelength. This is a consequence of time dilation. Suppose person A on the massive object decides to send light of a specific frequency f to person B all of the time. So every second, f wave crests leave person A. The same wave crests are received by person B in an interval of time interval of (1+z) seconds. He receives the waves at a frequency of f/(1+z). Remember that the speed of light c = (the frequency f) * (the wavelength L). If the frequency is reduced by (1+z) times, the wavelength must INcrease by (1+z) times: L_atB = (1+z) * L_atA. In the doppler effect, this lengthening of the wavelength is called a redshift. For gravity, the effect is called a GRAVITATIONAL REDSHIFT." The variable speed of incoming light is observed when the wavelength of the source is defined as a universal constant. For example: Every observer measures his sodium source to have a wave length of 589 nm. This means that 589 nm is the universal wavelength for sodium. Therefore the speed of incoming sodium light is calculated as follows: c'= (the measured incoming frequency of sodium light)(universal wavelength of sodium 589 nm) Ken Seto http://helios.gsfc.nasa.gov/qa_sp_gr.html "Is light affected by gravity? If so, how can the speed of light be constant? Wouldn't the light coming off of the Sun be slower than the light we make here? If not, why doesn't light escape a black hole? Yes, light is affected by gravity, but not in its speed. General Relativity (our best guess as to how the Universe works) gives two effects of gravity on light. It can bend light (which includes effects such as gravitational lensing), and it can change the energy of light. But it changes the energy by shifting the frequency of the light (gravitational redshift) not by changing light speed. Gravity bends light by warping space so that what the light beam sees as "straight" is not straight to an outside observer. The speed of light is still constant." Dr. Eric Christian Pentcho Valev |
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On Jun 3, 8:01 am, Pentcho Valev wrote:
Steve Carlip, one of the silliest Einsteinians, believes and teaches that in a gravitational field the speed of light is both variable and constant: That is correct. Carlip is saying that both statements can be justified, depending on how the speed of light is measured. http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physic..._of_light.html Steve Carlip: "Einstein went on to discover a more general theory of relativity which explained gravity in terms of curved spacetime, and he talked about the speed of light changing in this new theory. In the 1920 book "Relativity: the special and general theory" he wrote: ". . . according to the general theory of relativity, the law of the constancy of the velocity of light in vacuo, which constitutes one of the two fundamental assumptions in the special theory of relativity [. . .] cannot claim any unlimited validity. A curvature of rays of light can only take place when the velocity of propagation of light varies with position." Since Einstein talks of velocity (a vector quantity: speed with direction) rather than speed alone, it is not clear that he meant the speed will change, but the reference to special relativity suggests that he did mean so. This interpretation is perfectly valid and makes good physical sense, but a more modern interpretation is that the speed of light is constant in general relativity." I agree that this is a poorly written paragraph but you shot yourself in the foot by ignoring the clarification in the following two paragraphs that you didn't quote: "The problem here comes from the fact that speed is a coordinate- dependent quantity, and is therefore somewhat ambiguous. To determine speed (distance moved/time taken) you must first choose some standards of distance and time, and different choices can give different answers. This is already true in special relativity: if you measure the speed of light in an accelerating reference frame, the answer will, in general, differ from c." "In special relativity, the speed of light is constant when measured in any inertial frame. In general relativity, the appropriate generalisation is that the speed of light is constant in any freely falling reference frame (in a region small enough that tidal effects can be neglected). In this passage, Einstein is not talking about a freely falling frame, but rather about a frame at rest relative to a source of gravity. In such a frame, the speed of light can differ from c, basically because of the effect of gravity (spacetime curvature) on clocks and rulers." Shubee |
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On 3 juin, 15:46, Shubee wrote:
On Jun 3, 8:01 am, Pentcho Valev wrote: Steve Carlip, one of the silliest Einsteinians, believes and teaches that in a gravitational field the speed of light is both variable and constant: That is correct. Carlip is saying that both statements can be justified, depending on how the speed of light is measured. When Pound and Rebka measured the frequency shift of the falling light to be: f'=f(1+gh/c^2) this meant that the falling light had: (A) shifted speed c'=c(1+gh/c^2) and constant wavelength L'=L? (B) constant speed c'=c and shifted wavelength L'=L/(1+gh/c^2)? Pentcho Valev |
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On Jun 3, 3:54 pm, Pentcho Valev wrote:
On 3 juin, 15:46, Shubee wrote: On Jun 3, 8:01 am, Pentcho Valev wrote: Steve Carlip, one of the silliest Einsteinians, believes and teaches that in a gravitational field the speed of light is both variable and constant: That is correct. Carlip is saying that both statements can be justified, depending on how the speed of light is measured. When Pound and Rebka measured the frequency shift of the falling light to be: f'=f(1+gh/c^2) this meant that the falling light had: (A) shifted speed c'=c(1+gh/c^2) and constant wavelength L'=L? (B) constant speed c'=c and shifted wavelength L'=L/(1+gh/c^2)? Pentcho, The answer to your multiple choice question is neither (A) nor (B). Furthermore, you need to rethink the meaning of the speed of light because speed in a non-Newtonian universe depends entirely on how one synchronizes clocks. In other words, try to define speed and at the same time try to abandon the notion of instantaneousness because you’re thinking of speed with the mindset of a true Newtonian. Shubee |
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On Jun 2, 10:40*pm, Pentcho Valev wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/03/sc...m&ex=121263840... THE NEW YORK TIMES: "Dark, Perhaps Forever....A decade ago, astronomers discovered that what is true for your car keys is not true for the galaxies. Having been impelled apart by the force of the Big Bang, the galaxies, in defiance of cosmic gravity, are picking up speed on a dash toward eternity. If they were keys, they would be shooting for the ceiling......Some physicists are even willing to burn down their old sainted Einstein and revise his theory of gravity, general relativity, to make the cosmic discrepancies go away." Einsteinans should not attack the old sainted Einstein, aka Divine Albert. True, Divine Albert's Divine General Relativity, just like Divine Albert's Divine Special Relativity, is an idiocy that can only confuse Einsteinians but Divine Albert's 1911 equation describing the variability of the speed of light in a gravitational field is quite correct and, by using it, Einsteinians can disperse their deep cosmological confusion: http://www.physlink.com/Education/AskExperts/ae13.cfm: "So, it is absolutely true that the speed of light is _not_ constant in a gravitational field [which, by the equivalence principle, applies as well to accelerating (non-inertial) frames of reference]….Indeed, this is exactly how Einstein did the calculation in: "On the Influence of Gravitation on the Propagation of Light," Annalen der Physik, 35, 1911. which predated the full formal development of general relativity by about four years. This paper is widely available in English. You can find a copy beginning on page 99 of the Dover book “The Principle of Relativity.” You will find in section 3 of that paper, Einstein’s derivation of the (variable) speed of light in a gravitational potential, eqn (3). The result is, c’=c0(1+V/c^2) where V is the gravitational potential relative to the point where the speed of light c0 is measured." http://www.blazelabs.com/f-g-gcont.asp"The first confirmation of a long range variation in the speed of light travelling in space came in 1964. Irwin Shapiro, it seems, was the first to make use of a previously forgotten facet of general relativity theory -- that the speed of light is reduced when it passes through a gravitational field....Faced with this evidence, Einstein stated:"In the second place our result shows that, according to the general theory of relativity, the law of the constancy of the velocity of light in vacuo, which constitutes one of the two fundamental assumptions in the special theory of relativity and to which we have already frequently referred, cannot claim any unlimited validity. A curvature of rays of light can only take place when the velocity of propagation of light varies with position."......Today we find that since the Special Theory of Relativity unfortunately became part of the so called mainstream science, it is considered a sacrilege to even suggest that the speed of light be anything other than a constant. This is somewhat surprising since even Einstein himself suggested in a paper "On the Influence of Gravitation on the Propagation of Light," Annalen der Physik, 35, 1911, that the speed of light might vary with the gravitational potential. Indeed, the variation of the speed of light in a vacuum or space is explicitly shown in Einstein's calculation for the angle at which light should bend upon the influence of gravity. One can find his calculation in his paper. The result is c'=c(1+V/c^2) where V is the gravitational potential relative to the point where the measurement is taken. 1+V/c^2 is also known as the GRAVITATIONAL REDSHIFT FACTOR." Pentcho Valev Dark matter would dominate the early universe. There being a mixture of it and normal matter at the Big Bang. They had a comon origin at the Big Bang and have not seperated since. The Earth and stars are mostly Dark Matter. |
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