No pity for "broke" NASA

They should never had wasted $150B on the worthless ISS and they
shouldn't be wasting money pandering to the global warming kooks.
Look UP, NASA not DOWN!

NASA says its pockets not deep enough for new rocket

(CNN) -- The marching orders from Congress and the White House to NASA
were pretty straightforward.

Go out and build a new big rocket to replace the retiring space
shuttle fleet.

Unlike the shuttle, the new rocket has to be powerful enough to get
out of low Earth orbit and carry humans to an asteroid and eventually
Mars, perhaps even the moon. There must also be a test flight by 2016.

But at this point, NASA officials are warning of a potentially
devastating setback to future space exploration.

Its first new rocket in 40 years may not happen because the agency
doesn't think the $8 billion budgeted over the next three years is
enough.

"We have done calculations with current models and approaches to doing
this type of development and it doesn't work with funding constraints
combined with schedules that were laid out in the Authorization Act,"
Doug Cooke, NASA's associate administrator for exploration systems,
told CNN.

Congress has already responded that unless NASA can prove there's not
enough money, the rocket must -- by law -- be built.

Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Florida, a key space agency supporter, was adamant
when he spoke to CNN: "NASA must stop making excuses and follow this
law. I believe the best and brightest at the space agency can build
upon the $9 billion we've already invested in advanced technology to
design a new heavy-lift rocket, while taking a stepping-stone, pay-as-
you-go approach."

"We're doing everything we can to get there," Cooke said.

The $9 billion was for the now-defunct Constellation program, planned
to take astronauts to the moon and on to Mars. It was cut from the
federal budget last year after being called behind schedule and over
budget.

After the last shuttle flight later this year, NASA will be out of the
space taxi business. Commercial companies are expected to take over
ferrying astronauts to and from the International Space Station.

NASA, no longer burdened with an aging vehicle and costly flights, has
again been told to focus on building a new rocket.

Citizens Against Government Waste President Tom Schatz is not
confident: "NASA is unfortunately becoming a black hole for the
taxpayers and something needs to be done to turn things around," he
said. "The Constellation program has taught us the things that work,
the things that we could have done better."

The vehicle most likely to be presented to Congress would have solid
rocket boosters like the shuttle, only larger; would use shuttle main
engines and would also, like the shuttle, have a liquid fuel stage,
Cooke told CNN. Early test flights would use a lot of existing
hardware.

"We have engines that will be freed up when shuttle retires. We do
have solid rocket casings that are from the shuttle program that we
can use," he said.

NASA says it will tell Congress by the spring or early summer whether
the rocket can be built with the money available and meet the 2016
deadline.

On Feb 8, 6:16*am, Rich wrote:
They should never had wasted $150B on the worthless ISS and they
shouldn't be wasting money pandering to the global warming kooks.
Look UP, NASA not DOWN!

NASA says its pockets not deep enough for new rocket

(CNN) -- The marching orders from Congress and the White House to NASA
were pretty straightforward.

Go out and build a new big rocket to replace the retiring space
shuttle fleet.

Unlike the shuttle, the new rocket has to be powerful enough to get
out of low Earth orbit and carry humans to an asteroid and eventually
Mars, perhaps even the moon. There must also be a test flight by 2016.

But at this point, NASA officials are warning of a potentially
devastating setback to future space exploration.

Its first new rocket in 40 years may not happen because the agency
doesn't think the $8 billion budgeted over the next three years is
enough.

"We have done calculations with current models and approaches to doing
this type of development and it doesn't work with funding constraints
combined with schedules that were laid out in the Authorization Act,"
Doug Cooke, NASA's associate administrator for exploration systems,
told CNN.

Congress has already responded that unless NASA can prove there's not
enough money, the rocket must -- by law -- be built.

Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Florida, a key space agency supporter, was adamant
when he spoke to CNN: "NASA must stop making excuses and follow this
law. I believe the best and brightest at the space agency can build
upon the $9 billion we've already invested in advanced technology to
design a new heavy-lift rocket, while taking a stepping-stone, pay-as-
you-go approach."

"We're doing everything we can to get there," Cooke said.

The $9 billion was for the now-defunct Constellation program, planned
to take astronauts to the moon and on to Mars. It was cut from the
federal budget last year after being called behind schedule and over
budget.

After the last shuttle flight later this year, NASA will be out of the
space taxi business. Commercial companies are expected to take over
ferrying astronauts to and from the International Space Station.

NASA, no longer burdened with an aging vehicle and costly flights, has
again been told to focus on building a new rocket.

Citizens Against Government Waste President Tom Schatz is not
confident: "NASA is unfortunately becoming a black hole for the
taxpayers and something needs to be done to turn things around," he
said. "The Constellation program has taught us the things that work,
the things that we could have done better."

The vehicle most likely to be presented to Congress would have solid
rocket boosters like the shuttle, only larger; would use shuttle main
engines and would also, like the shuttle, have a liquid fuel stage,
Cooke told CNN. Early test flights would use a lot of existing
hardware.

"We have engines that will be freed up when shuttle retires. We do
have solid rocket casings that are from the shuttle program that we
can use," he said.

NASA says it will tell Congress by the spring or early summer whether
the rocket can be built with the money available and meet the 2016
deadline.

How about (since our moon is still taboo/voodoo nondisclosure rated) a
little refocus, such as focusing upon a nearby discovery via the
Magellan mission, like the discovery of possible other intelligent
life existing/coexisting on Venus?

http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif
A ten times resample/enlargement of the Guth Venus area in question:
https://docs.google.com/File?id=ddsdxhv_4fdgd46df_b

http://translate.google.com/#
Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”

On Feb 8, 8:16*am, Rich wrote:
They should never had wasted $150B on the worthless ISS and they
shouldn't be wasting money pandering to the global warming kooks.
Look UP, NASA not DOWN!

NASA says its pockets not deep enough for new rocket

(CNN) -- The marching orders from Congress and the White House to NASA
were pretty straightforward.

Go out and build a new big rocket to replace the retiring space
shuttle fleet.

Unlike the shuttle, the new rocket has to be powerful enough to get
out of low Earth orbit and carry humans to an asteroid and eventually
Mars, perhaps even the moon. There must also be a test flight by 2016.

But at this point, NASA officials are warning of a potentially
devastating setback to future space exploration.

Its first new rocket in 40 years may not happen because the agency
doesn't think the $8 billion budgeted over the next three years is
enough.

"We have done calculations with current models and approaches to doing
this type of development and it doesn't work with funding constraints
combined with schedules that were laid out in the Authorization Act,"
Doug Cooke, NASA's associate administrator for exploration systems,
told CNN.

Congress has already responded that unless NASA can prove there's not
enough money, the rocket must -- by law -- be built.

Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Florida, a key space agency supporter, was adamant
when he spoke to CNN: "NASA must stop making excuses and follow this
law. I believe the best and brightest at the space agency can build
upon the $9 billion we've already invested in advanced technology to
design a new heavy-lift rocket, while taking a stepping-stone, pay-as-
you-go approach."

"We're doing everything we can to get there," Cooke said.

The $9 billion was for the now-defunct Constellation program, planned
to take astronauts to the moon and on to Mars. It was cut from the
federal budget last year after being called behind schedule and over
budget.

After the last shuttle flight later this year, NASA will be out of the
space taxi business. Commercial companies are expected to take over
ferrying astronauts to and from the International Space Station.

NASA, no longer burdened with an aging vehicle and costly flights, has
again been told to focus on building a new rocket.

Citizens Against Government Waste President Tom Schatz is not
confident: "NASA is unfortunately becoming a black hole for the
taxpayers and something needs to be done to turn things around," he
said. "The Constellation program has taught us the things that work,
the things that we could have done better."

The vehicle most likely to be presented to Congress would have solid
rocket boosters like the shuttle, only larger; would use shuttle main
engines and would also, like the shuttle, have a liquid fuel stage,
Cooke told CNN. Early test flights would use a lot of existing
hardware.

"We have engines that will be freed up when shuttle retires. We do
have solid rocket casings that are from the shuttle program that we
can use," he said.

NASA says it will tell Congress by the spring or early summer whether
the rocket can be built with the money available and meet the 2016
deadline.

"Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Florida, a key space agency supporter, was
adamant when he spoke to CNN: "NASA must stop making excuses and
follow this law."

Innovation and development of advanced space technologies by state
decree. If only the real world worked like that. Only a democrat could
believe that that would work.

"Brad Guth" wrote in message
...
On Feb 8, 6:16 am, Rich wrote:
They should never had wasted $150B on the worthless ISS and they
shouldn't be wasting money pandering to the global warming kooks.
Look UP, NASA not DOWN!

NASA says its pockets not deep enough for new rocket

(CNN) -- The marching orders from Congress and the White House to NASA
were pretty straightforward.

Go out and build a new big rocket to replace the retiring space
shuttle fleet.

Unlike the shuttle, the new rocket has to be powerful enough to get
out of low Earth orbit and carry humans to an asteroid and eventually
Mars, perhaps even the moon. There must also be a test flight by 2016.

But at this point, NASA officials are warning of a potentially
devastating setback to future space exploration.

Its first new rocket in 40 years may not happen because the agency
doesn't think the $8 billion budgeted over the next three years is
enough.

"We have done calculations with current models and approaches to doing
this type of development and it doesn't work with funding constraints
combined with schedules that were laid out in the Authorization Act,"
Doug Cooke, NASA's associate administrator for exploration systems,
told CNN.

Congress has already responded that unless NASA can prove there's not
enough money, the rocket must -- by law -- be built.

Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Florida, a key space agency supporter, was adamant
when he spoke to CNN: "NASA must stop making excuses and follow this
law. I believe the best and brightest at the space agency can build
upon the $9 billion we've already invested in advanced technology to
design a new heavy-lift rocket, while taking a stepping-stone, pay-as-
you-go approach."

"We're doing everything we can to get there," Cooke said.

The $9 billion was for the now-defunct Constellation program, planned
to take astronauts to the moon and on to Mars. It was cut from the
federal budget last year after being called behind schedule and over
budget.

After the last shuttle flight later this year, NASA will be out of the
space taxi business. Commercial companies are expected to take over
ferrying astronauts to and from the International Space Station.

NASA, no longer burdened with an aging vehicle and costly flights, has
again been told to focus on building a new rocket.

Citizens Against Government Waste President Tom Schatz is not
confident: "NASA is unfortunately becoming a black hole for the
taxpayers and something needs to be done to turn things around," he
said. "The Constellation program has taught us the things that work,
the things that we could have done better."

The vehicle most likely to be presented to Congress would have solid
rocket boosters like the shuttle, only larger; would use shuttle main
engines and would also, like the shuttle, have a liquid fuel stage,
Cooke told CNN. Early test flights would use a lot of existing
hardware.

"We have engines that will be freed up when shuttle retires. We do
have solid rocket casings that are from the shuttle program that we
can use," he said.

NASA says it will tell Congress by the spring or early summer whether
the rocket can be built with the money available and meet the 2016
deadline.

How about (since our moon is still taboo/voodoo nondisclosure rated) a
little refocus, such as focusing upon a nearby discovery via the
Magellan mission, like the discovery of possible other intelligent
life existing/coexisting on Venus?

http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif
A ten times resample/enlargement of the Guth Venus area in question:
https://docs.google.com/File?id=ddsdxhv_4fdgd46df_b

It 400 degrees on the surface or something, no water, little sunlight!!???

On Tue, 8 Feb 2011 06:16:38 -0800 (PST), Rich
wrote:

NASA says its pockets not deep enough for new rocket

(CNN) -- The marching orders from Congress and the White House to NASA
were pretty straightforward.

Go out and build a new big rocket to replace the retiring space
shuttle fleet.

Unlike the shuttle, the new rocket has to be powerful enough to get
out of low Earth orbit and carry humans to an asteroid and eventually
Mars, perhaps even the moon. There must also be a test flight by 2016.

But at this point, NASA officials are warning of a potentially
devastating setback to future space exploration.

Its first new rocket in 40 years may not happen because the agency
doesn't think the $8 billion budgeted over the next three years is
enough.

Bush2 and the Bush2 Regime spent THREE TRILLION DOLLARS invading
Iraq and Afghanistan, 1.5 trillion of which Congress approved.
NASA could have been well on its way to their goals if the Bush2
Regime had not bankrupt the country and put every citizen more
than $50,000 into dept.

That's on top of the TWELVE TRILLION DOLLARS the Bush2 Regime
promised to the extremely wealthy in his "bail out" wealth
redistribution scam, 3.9 billion of which has already been dolled
out.

America is no longer in space chiefly because of Bush1 and Bush2.


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On Tue, 8 Feb 2011 09:28:21 -0800 (PST), Brad Guth
wrote:

How about (since our moon is still taboo/voodoo nondisclosure rated) a
little refocus, such as focusing upon a nearby discovery via the
Magellan mission, like the discovery of possible other intelligent
life existing/coexisting on Venus?

Idiot.

http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif
A ten times resample/enlargement of the Guth Venus area in question:
https://docs.google.com/File?id=ddsdxhv_4fdgd46df_b

http://translate.google.com/#
Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”


--
http://desertphile.org
Desertphile's Desert Soliloquy. WARNING: view with plenty of water
"Why aren't resurrections from the dead noteworthy?" -- Jim Rutz

tunderbar wrote in news:326da898-f3ea-421e-8031-
:

On Feb 8, 8:16*am, Rich wrote:
They should never had wasted $150B on the worthless ISS and they
shouldn't be wasting money pandering to the global warming kooks.
Look UP, NASA not DOWN!

NASA says its pockets not deep enough for new rocket

(CNN) -- The marching orders from Congress and the White House to NASA
were pretty straightforward.

Go out and build a new big rocket to replace the retiring space
shuttle fleet.

Unlike the shuttle, the new rocket has to be powerful enough to get
out of low Earth orbit and carry humans to an asteroid and eventually
Mars, perhaps even the moon. There must also be a test flight by 2016.

But at this point, NASA officials are warning of a potentially
devastating setback to future space exploration.

Its first new rocket in 40 years may not happen because the agency
doesn't think the $8 billion budgeted over the next three years is
enough.

"We have done calculations with current models and approaches to doing
this type of development and it doesn't work with funding constraints
combined with schedules that were laid out in the Authorization Act,"
Doug Cooke, NASA's associate administrator for exploration systems,
told CNN.

Congress has already responded that unless NASA can prove there's not
enough money, the rocket must -- by law -- be built.

Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Florida, a key space agency supporter, was adamant
when he spoke to CNN: "NASA must stop making excuses and follow this
law. I believe the best and brightest at the space agency can build
upon the $9 billion we've already invested in advanced technology to
design a new heavy-lift rocket, while taking a stepping-stone, pay-as-
you-go approach."

"We're doing everything we can to get there," Cooke said.

The $9 billion was for the now-defunct Constellation program, planned
to take astronauts to the moon and on to Mars. It was cut from the
federal budget last year after being called behind schedule and over
budget.

After the last shuttle flight later this year, NASA will be out of the
space taxi business. Commercial companies are expected to take over
ferrying astronauts to and from the International Space Station.

NASA, no longer burdened with an aging vehicle and costly flights, has
again been told to focus on building a new rocket.

Citizens Against Government Waste President Tom Schatz is not
confident: "NASA is unfortunately becoming a black hole for the
taxpayers and something needs to be done to turn things around," he
said. "The Constellation program has taught us the things that work,
the things that we could have done better."

The vehicle most likely to be presented to Congress would have solid
rocket boosters like the shuttle, only larger; would use shuttle main
engines and would also, like the shuttle, have a liquid fuel stage,
Cooke told CNN. Early test flights would use a lot of existing
hardware.

"We have engines that will be freed up when shuttle retires. We do
have solid rocket casings that are from the shuttle program that we
can use," he said.

NASA says it will tell Congress by the spring or early summer whether
the rocket can be built with the money available and meet the 2016
deadline.

"Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Florida, a key space agency supporter, was
adamant when he spoke to CNN: "NASA must stop making excuses and
follow this law."

Innovation and development of advanced space technologies by state
decree. If only the real world worked like that. Only a democrat could
believe that that would work.


Hearing a democrat telling someone to work within a budget or save money
is a real laugh.

On Feb 8, 3:15*pm, Desertphile
wrote:
On Tue, 8 Feb 2011 06:16:38 -0800 (PST), Rich





wrote:
NASA says its pockets not deep enough for new rocket

(CNN) -- The marching orders from Congress and the White House to NASA
were pretty straightforward.

Go out and build a new big rocket to replace the retiring space
shuttle fleet.

Unlike the shuttle, the new rocket has to be powerful enough to get
out of low Earth orbit and carry humans to an asteroid and eventually
Mars, perhaps even the moon. There must also be a test flight by 2016.

But at this point, NASA officials are warning of a potentially
devastating setback to future space exploration.

Its first new rocket in 40 years may not happen because the agency
doesn't think the $8 billion budgeted over the next three years is
enough.

Bush2 and the Bush2 Regime spent THREE TRILLION DOLLARS invading
Iraq and Afghanistan, 1.5 trillion of which Congress approved.
NASA could have been well on its way to their goals if the Bush2
Regime had not bankrupt the country and put every citizen more
than $50,000 into dept.

That's on top of the TWELVE TRILLION DOLLARS the Bush2 Regime
promised to the extremely wealthy in his "bail out" wealth
redistribution scam, 3.9 billion of which has already been dolled
out.

America is no longer in space chiefly because of Bush1 and Bush2.

ROTFLMAO!! Zerobama and the Demo congress cut the Constellation
budget, now propose to waste $53 billion on a high speed rail
boondoggle, and you actually think it was Bush 41's doing? (Seems to
me the Shuttle was still flying back then.) Go back to alt.global-
warming (or is it alt.climate-change?) and stay there.

On Feb 8, 2:34*pm, Rich wrote:
tunderbar wrote in news:326da898-f3ea-421e-8031-
:





On Feb 8, 8:16*am, Rich wrote:
They should never had wasted $150B on the worthless ISS and they
shouldn't be wasting money pandering to the global warming kooks.
Look UP, NASA not DOWN!

NASA says its pockets not deep enough for new rocket

(CNN) -- The marching orders from Congress and the White House to NASA
were pretty straightforward.

Go out and build a new big rocket to replace the retiring space
shuttle fleet.

Unlike the shuttle, the new rocket has to be powerful enough to get
out of low Earth orbit and carry humans to an asteroid and eventually
Mars, perhaps even the moon. There must also be a test flight by 2016.

But at this point, NASA officials are warning of a potentially
devastating setback to future space exploration.

Its first new rocket in 40 years may not happen because the agency
doesn't think the $8 billion budgeted over the next three years is
enough.

"We have done calculations with current models and approaches to doing
this type of development and it doesn't work with funding constraints
combined with schedules that were laid out in the Authorization Act,"
Doug Cooke, NASA's associate administrator for exploration systems,
told CNN.

Congress has already responded that unless NASA can prove there's not
enough money, the rocket must -- by law -- be built.

Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Florida, a key space agency supporter, was adamant
when he spoke to CNN: "NASA must stop making excuses and follow this
law. I believe the best and brightest at the space agency can build
upon the $9 billion we've already invested in advanced technology to
design a new heavy-lift rocket, while taking a stepping-stone, pay-as-
you-go approach."

"We're doing everything we can to get there," Cooke said.

The $9 billion was for the now-defunct Constellation program, planned
to take astronauts to the moon and on to Mars. It was cut from the
federal budget last year after being called behind schedule and over
budget.

After the last shuttle flight later this year, NASA will be out of the
space taxi business. Commercial companies are expected to take over
ferrying astronauts to and from the International Space Station.

NASA, no longer burdened with an aging vehicle and costly flights, has
again been told to focus on building a new rocket.

Citizens Against Government Waste President Tom Schatz is not
confident: "NASA is unfortunately becoming a black hole for the
taxpayers and something needs to be done to turn things around," he
said. "The Constellation program has taught us the things that work,
the things that we could have done better."

The vehicle most likely to be presented to Congress would have solid
rocket boosters like the shuttle, only larger; would use shuttle main
engines and would also, like the shuttle, have a liquid fuel stage,
Cooke told CNN. Early test flights would use a lot of existing
hardware.

"We have engines that will be freed up when shuttle retires. We do
have solid rocket casings that are from the shuttle program that we
can use," he said.

NASA says it will tell Congress by the spring or early summer whether
the rocket can be built with the money available and meet the 2016
deadline.

"Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Florida, a key space agency supporter, was
adamant when he spoke to CNN: "NASA must stop making excuses and
follow this law."

Innovation and development of advanced space technologies by state
decree. If only the real world worked like that. Only a democrat could
believe that that would work.

Hearing a democrat telling someone to work within a budget or save money
is a real laugh.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

wow, what party was in office during both shuttle accidents? Maybe
you need to learn some facts, before you spout your idiocy.

On Feb 8, 6:16*am, Rich wrote:" They should
never had wasted $150B on the worthless ISS and they shouldn't be
wasting money pandering to the global warming kooks.
Look UP, NASA not DOWN!"

only an idiot like you wants to conduct science with blinders on.