Hoagland a fraud?

"*" wrote in message
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On 16 Mar 2004 16:16:38 -0800, (George William
Herbert) wrote:

In article ,
* wrote:
Okay Mr. Arrogant Scientist, why did the scientific community allow
this:

NASA never allowed independent scientific peer review of Malin's Mars
MOC
photographs and instead allowed Malin to keep and own US government
property
which is against the law.

That is a false statement.

No at all, and you're hedging and not being honest. I doubt you're a
scientist at all. Science is supposed to be about honesty.


You obviously would prefer to be ignorant and confrontational
rather than actually understand, but we'll give you a few
more tries at clue.

Abusive cuss, aren't you. I've obviously touched a nerve there.

I've got a clue for you. I met the guy who signed the checks to Malin for
doctoring the MOC photographs.


Really. Why not give his name. Since I know the guy responsible for
putting photos on Malin's website. I'm sure we can have a good old get
together.


snip bullshiddo

"*" wrote in message
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On 16 Mar 2004 16:16:38 -0800, (George William
Herbert) wrote:

Proprietary periods in space mission data exist to give the scientists
who build the instruments some time to write up their papers and
get credit for the work they have done building and operating the
instruments.

Liar.

Again, claims w/o proof. The fact is, George is in fact right and you are
wrong, as a quick perusal of Google would show.

On 16 Mar 2004 16:16:38 -0800, (George William
Herbert) wrote:

Anyone in the *world* is allowed to view the raw science imagery.
All you need is a 30 to 70 meter radio antenna dish and the appropriate
data extraction tools. It's not encrypted.

Yes, and the 'extraction tools' are decoding programs and NO ONE ON EARTH
EXCEPT MALIN has those tools.

"*" wrote in message
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On 16 Mar 2004 16:16:38 -0800, (George William
Herbert) wrote:

During Malin's 'proprietary period' Malin has *exclusive ownership* of
the
MOC photographs, and during that time Malin and his staff doctor the
photographs.

Now you're just making a fool of yourself and being abusing your account.

You don't need to reply to every sentence separately.

On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 00:32:58 GMT, "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)"
wrote:


"*" wrote in message
.. .
On 16 Mar 2004 16:16:38 -0800, (George William
Herbert) wrote:

In article ,
* wrote:
Okay Mr. Arrogant Scientist, why did the scientific community allow
this:

NASA never allowed independent scientific peer review of Malin's Mars
MOC
photographs and instead allowed Malin to keep and own US government
property
which is against the law.

That is a false statement.

No at all, and you're hedging and not being honest. I doubt you're a
scientist at all. Science is supposed to be about honesty.


You obviously would prefer to be ignorant and confrontational
rather than actually understand, but we'll give you a few
more tries at clue.

Abusive cuss, aren't you. I've obviously touched a nerve there.

I've got a clue for you. I met the guy who signed the checks to Malin for
doctoring the MOC photographs.


Really. Why not give his name.

I'll publish a web site with all the names if you like. I'm sure the guy
won't appreciate it, but if you insist.

Since I know the guy responsible for
putting photos on Malin's website. I'm sure we can have a good old get
together.

The web site manager has no clue.


snip bullshiddo

On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 00:33:27 GMT, "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)"
wrote:


"*" wrote in message
.. .
On 16 Mar 2004 16:16:38 -0800, (George William
Herbert) wrote:

Proprietary periods in space mission data exist to give the scientists
who build the instruments some time to write up their papers and
get credit for the work they have done building and operating the
instruments.

Liar.

Again, claims w/o proof.

Okay smart ass, why are the MOC photos coded during transmission from Mars
to earth?

The fact is, George is in fact right and you are
wrong, as a quick perusal of Google would show.

A quick perusal of google will show nothing.

On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 00:34:30 GMT, "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)"
wrote:


"*" wrote in message
.. .
On 16 Mar 2004 16:16:38 -0800, (George William
Herbert) wrote:

During Malin's 'proprietary period' Malin has *exclusive ownership* of
the
MOC photographs, and during that time Malin and his staff doctor the
photographs.

Now you're just making a fool of yourself and being abusing your account.

You failed logic 101 didn't you?

You don't need to reply to every sentence separately.

Killing the messenger is a logical fallacy.

"*" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 00:34:30 GMT, "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)"
wrote:


"*" wrote in message
.. .
On 16 Mar 2004 16:16:38 -0800, (George William
Herbert) wrote:

During Malin's 'proprietary period' Malin has *exclusive ownership* of
the
MOC photographs, and during that time Malin and his staff doctor the
photographs.

Now you're just making a fool of yourself and being abusing your account.

You failed logic 101 didn't you?

Actually no, passed it with flying colors. Finished the 3 hour final exam
in 34 minutes. And that was after double-checking my answers.

But that's for asking.



You don't need to reply to every sentence separately.

Killing the messenger is a logical fallacy.

Not even.

"*" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 00:33:27 GMT, "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)"
wrote:

The fact is, George is in fact right and you are
wrong, as a quick perusal of Google would show.

A quick perusal of google will show nothing.

Funnny, I get over 29,000 repsonses.

That's a whole lot of nothing.

On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 00:39:30 GMT, "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)"
wrote:


"*" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 00:34:30 GMT, "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)"
wrote:


"*" wrote in message
.. .
On 16 Mar 2004 16:16:38 -0800, (George William
Herbert) wrote:

During Malin's 'proprietary period' Malin has *exclusive ownership* of
the
MOC photographs, and during that time Malin and his staff doctor the
photographs.

Now you're just making a fool of yourself and being abusing your account.

You failed logic 101 didn't you?

Actually no, passed it with flying colors. Finished the 3 hour final exam
in 34 minutes. And that was after double-checking my answers.

But that's for asking.



You don't need to reply to every sentence separately.

Killing the messenger is a logical fallacy.

Not even.

Yeah it is troll boy.

I didn't' fail logic 101 either, as you full well know.