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Old September 14th 09, 03:20 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
Derek Lyons
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Pat Flannery wrote:

Matt Wiser wrote:If you are going to Mars, lunar
missions to test spacesuits, crewed rovers, exploration gear, habitats,
would be necessary.


Not necessarily, not only did we develop the Apollo suits and rovers
here on Earth, but conditions on Mars, which has a thin atmosphere and
higher surface gravity than the Moon, may make lunar tests
nonrepresentational.


A moon base for a Mars mission is kind of like Apollo 8 was to the
lunar landing mission - while not representational, valuable in
building an experience base.

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Old September 14th 09, 05:34 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
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"Derek Lyons" wrote in message
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Pat Flannery wrote:

Matt Wiser wrote:If you are going to Mars, lunar
missions to test spacesuits, crewed rovers, exploration gear, habitats,
would be necessary.


Not necessarily, not only did we develop the Apollo suits and rovers
here on Earth, but conditions on Mars, which has a thin atmosphere and
higher surface gravity than the Moon, may make lunar tests
nonrepresentational.


A moon base for a Mars mission is kind of like Apollo 8 was to the
lunar landing mission - while not representational, valuable in
building an experience base.


Yes, but how much operational experience was gained vs. PR value?

I'd say that the driving force really was PR value, though the operation
experience was fairly valuable also.



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Old September 15th 09, 05:42 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
Derek Lyons
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"Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)" wrote:

"Derek Lyons" wrote in message
...
Pat Flannery wrote:

Matt Wiser wrote:If you are going to Mars, lunar
missions to test spacesuits, crewed rovers, exploration gear, habitats,
would be necessary.

Not necessarily, not only did we develop the Apollo suits and rovers
here on Earth, but conditions on Mars, which has a thin atmosphere and
higher surface gravity than the Moon, may make lunar tests
nonrepresentational.


A moon base for a Mars mission is kind of like Apollo 8 was to the
lunar landing mission - while not representational, valuable in
building an experience base.


Yes, but how much operational experience was gained vs. PR value?


Murray and Cox describe the effects as fairly significant (IIRC) once
people realized they were actually going to go, soon, and that they
had better be ready.

I'd say that the driving force really was PR value, though the operation
experience was fairly valuable also.


PR is as important as any thing else. Folks ignore that at their
peril. However, you can oversaturate as NASA does now with elevating
practically everything possible to a significant achievement.

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