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WTF?!?
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science...security_x.htm
quote CAPE CANAVERAL (AP) — NASA officials are confident enough about their security measures that they are changing back to some pre-Sept. 11 practices, and the London bombings didn't change their plans, a spokesman said Friday. During the last space shuttle launch 2{ years ago, NASA didn't make public the liftoff time until the day before Columbia blasted into space. This time, the liftoff time for Discovery has been publicized well in advance. "Whatever restrictions we had in place post-9/11 have been eased," said Michael Braukus, a public affairs officer at NASA headquarters in Washington. "So we're just back to more or less what is ... normal operations in regards to the media activities, as well as other security operations." /quote Unbelievable. NASA has done some really dip**** things in the last 30 years, but this one takes the cake. -- Terrell Miller "Suddenly, after nearly 30 years of scorn, Prog is cool again". -Entertainment Weekly |
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"Terrell Miller" wrote in message ... http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science...security_x.htm quote CAPE CANAVERAL (AP) — NASA officials are confident enough about their security measures that they are changing back to some pre-Sept. 11 practices, and the London bombings didn't change their plans, a spokesman said Friday. During the last space shuttle launch 2{ years ago, NASA didn't make public the liftoff time until the day before Columbia blasted into space. This time, the liftoff time for Discovery has been publicized well in advance. "Whatever restrictions we had in place post-9/11 have been eased," said Michael Braukus, a public affairs officer at NASA headquarters in Washington. "So we're just back to more or less what is ... normal operations in regards to the media activities, as well as other security operations." /quote Unbelievable. NASA has done some really dip**** things in the last 30 years, but this one takes the cake. Trust me, that report is inaccurate. Anyone fortunate enough to be on the base for the launch will see exactly what I mean. For the last launch sim the crew bus had a helicopter escort with a machine gun armed guy on each skid. Remember, the last launch had an Israeli on board. Do not think that security is anything like pre-Sept. 2001 levels. |
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Terrell Miller wrote:
"Whatever restrictions we had in place post-9/11 have been eased," said Unbelievable. NASA has done some really dip**** things in the last 30 years, but this one takes the cake. You think it is stupid to remove PR restrictions that were totally useless ? The launch times were published on the net weeks before the launch since the orbital parameters of the ISS are known and the shuttle mucty launch at the time the ISS orbit intersects KSC. That restrictions was absurd. Determined terrorists would know the launch time. Note that the first launch after 9-11 had tight security but no stupid measures such as hiding launch time or not permitting the astrovan from being shown live. In fact, it was one of the most beautiful launches since NASA TV had a camera on a helicopter that followed the astroval to the pad and made for breathtaking views of the complex. These measures were politically motivated, not security related. Note that NASA still treats foreign journalists as terrorists and they are not treated the same way as american journalists. That is still silly. But having a tight and large "no fly zone" around the complex is fine. |
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Terrell Miller wrote: "Whatever restrictions we had in place post-9/11 have been eased," said Michael Braukus, a public affairs officer at NASA headquarters in Washington. "So we're just back to more or less what is ... normal operations in regards to the media activities, as well as other security operations." /quote Unbelievable. NASA has done some really dip**** things in the last 30 years, but this one takes the cake. Hey, remember their approach to the recommendations of the safety commission- did they meet all the commission's criteria? No. Are they going to launch anyway? Yes. Why? Because the Shuttle has now been declared "safe". I still love picking the 13th as a launch date... :-) Pat |
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John Doe wrote: Terrell Miller wrote: "Whatever restrictions we had in place post-9/11 have been eased," said Unbelievable. NASA has done some really dip**** things in the last 30 years, but this one takes the cake. You think it is stupid to remove PR restrictions that were totally useless ? The launch times were published on the net weeks before the launch since the orbital parameters of the ISS are known and the shuttle mucty launch at the time the ISS orbit intersects KSC. That restrictions was absurd. Determined terrorists would know the launch time. If not, they could look at TV coverage of the giant digital countdown clock.... which is a security lapse as blatant as publishing the arrival and departure times of the London metro trains and double-decker buses. Don't even get me started on airline flight schedules; thank God the airlines do their best to keep those somewhat unpredictable. ;-) Pat |
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Brian Gaff wrote: Now come on, are you really expecting anyone to be able to get within missile range on the day? Ever see the movie Earth II*? The scuba diver with the high-powered rifle and air mattress surfacing just off the coast? Actually, a rebreather and manpack SAM would work even better. * The one with the orbiting space station that becomes an independent country, not the Roddenberry one. Pat |
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A manpad sam . . . if would have a tough time . . . the stack is moving
pretty quick . I am not saying it is not possible . . .but the window is so small before the stack accellerates away from any manpad |
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On Sat, 09 Jul 2005 15:02:51 -0500, in a place far, far away, Pat
Flannery made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that: Terrell Miller wrote: "Whatever restrictions we had in place post-9/11 have been eased," said Michael Braukus, a public affairs officer at NASA headquarters in Washington. "So we're just back to more or less what is ... normal operations in regards to the media activities, as well as other security operations." /quote Unbelievable. NASA has done some really dip**** things in the last 30 years, but this one takes the cake. Hey, remember their approach to the recommendations of the safety commission- did they meet all the commission's criteria? No. Are they going to launch anyway? Yes. Why? Because the Shuttle has now been declared "safe". And many of the commission's criteria were always unrealistic. |
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Pat Flannery wrote: Actually, a rebreather and manpack SAM would work even better. I'm slightly unpersuaded that a MANPADS would be a particularly good anti-Shuttle weapon. The SRB exhaust would probably confuse the poor thing -- and it might try to fly up the exhaust plume. A largish no-fooling keep-out zone around the pad would, however, seem to be a good idea to discourage people with mortars, anti-materiel rifles, ATMs and the like from taking shots at the fueled stack before launch. |
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