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Elon Musk and Mars
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology...on-mars-spacex
Not much new here, but still interesting. I like his final lines too. |
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On 7/17/2013 5:55 PM, Greg (Strider) Moore wrote:
... I like his final lines too. Which one? "It'd be pretty cool to die on Mars, just not on impact," -or- "Holy ****, I'm on Mars, can you believe it?" Or maybe combine the two: if he dies on impact we can name the site Musk Crater! After Mars is colonized, some enterprising person could sell tickets to the site and for those that visit they get the last phrase as a bumper sticker souvenir? :-) Dave PS: Meant as a joke! I harbor no ill-will towards EM. In fact, I wish for him great success in his endeavo[u]rs. |
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"David Spain" wrote in message
... On 7/17/2013 5:55 PM, Greg (Strider) Moore wrote: ... I like his final lines too. Which one? "It'd be pretty cool to die on Mars, just not on impact," -or- "Holy ****, I'm on Mars, can you believe it?" Or maybe combine the two: if he dies on impact we can name the site Musk Crater! After Mars is colonized, some enterprising person could sell tickets to the site and for those that visit they get the last phrase as a bumper sticker souvenir? :-) Dave PS: Meant as a joke! I harbor no ill-will towards EM. In fact, I wish for him great success in his endeavo[u]rs. |
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"David Spain" wrote in message
... On 7/17/2013 5:55 PM, Greg (Strider) Moore wrote: ... I like his final lines too. Which one? "It'd be pretty cool to die on Mars, just not on impact," -or- "Holy ****, I'm on Mars, can you believe it?" Either one :-) Or maybe combine the two: if he dies on impact we can name the site Musk Crater! After Mars is colonized, some enterprising person could sell tickets to the site and for those that visit they get the last phrase as a bumper sticker souvenir? :-) Dave PS: Meant as a joke! I harbor no ill-will towards EM. In fact, I wish for him great success in his endeavo[u]rs. Same here. I've got to start saving my money to buy a ticket to Mars. -- Greg D. Moore http://greenmountainsoftware.wordpress.com/ CEO QuiCR: Quick, Crowdsourced Responses. http://www.quicr.net |
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"Jeff Findley" wrote in message
... In article , says... http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology...on-mars-spacex Not much new here, but still interesting. I like his final lines too. I think what amazes me most about Elon is that he's actually *younger* than I It reminds me of Benjamin Franklin. Looking at his bio makes most people humble when they realize by the time they die, they won't have done 1/2 the things he did before 40. :-) and the fact that he understands that a problem must be approached with a solution that's system oriented. He has taken this approach with all his businesses. He also focuses on the long term, not the next quarter. It will likely take decades before a SpaceX vehicle ever reaches Mars, but he's willing to hold onto that vision in the face of criticism from the "dinospace" sector. Yeah, the system's approach is key. You're not building JUST a rocket or JUST a car, but an entire ecosystem to support them and use them. With Tesla you see this with his building of "supercharger" stations for Tesla vehicles around the US, offering free charging or fast battery pack swaps (swaps limited to the Model S). Quite simply, it's not enough just to build an awesome product and market it. A successful business supports the customer from the moment of purchase until they no longer own/use the product. The customer focus is refreshing in this day and age of mostly "disposable" products imported from nations with cheap labor. It's no wonder Tesla is proving to be successful, despite the uphill battle faced by start-ups in the extremely conservative juggernauts which dominate the automobile industry. I'll tell you, I'm a "used car" person (Subaru wagon's are my thing) but if I had the cash, I'd drop one on a Model S tomorrow. The supercharger stations only make it even MORE tempting. Jeff -- Greg D. Moore http://greenmountainsoftware.wordpress.com/ CEO QuiCR: Quick, Crowdsourced Responses. http://www.quicr.net |
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On 7/17/2013 6:41 PM, David Spain wrote:
On 7/17/2013 5:55 PM, Greg (Strider) Moore wrote: ... I like his final lines too. Which one? "It'd be pretty cool to die on Mars, just not on impact," -or- "Holy ****, I'm on Mars, can you believe it?" Or maybe combine the two: if he dies on impact we can name the site Musk Crater! After Mars is colonized, some enterprising person could sell tickets to the site and for those that visit they get the last phrase as a bumper sticker souvenir? :-) Dave PS: Meant as a joke! I harbor no ill-will towards EM. In fact, I wish for him great success in his endeavo[u]rs. Just realized in the shower this am, that those Martian bumpers would likely be attached to EVs with perhaps the "Tesla" moniker? :-D Dave PS: If Pat were still around, he'd have pointed this out before I had thought of it! :-D :-D |
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Jeff Findley wrote:
I think what amazes me most about Elon is that he's actually *younger* than I and the fact that he understands that a problem must be approached with a solution that's system oriented. He has taken this approach with all his businesses. He also focuses on the long term, not the next quarter. It will likely take decades before a SpaceX vehicle ever reaches Mars, but he's willing to hold onto that vision in the face of criticism from the "dinospace" sector. Perhaps Elon Musk is a contemporary Renaissance Man, but I must confess that I think hyperloop is an iron too many in the fires. Just for fun, but noting that I can assert no cause and effect, I will point-out that the SpaceX launch manifest page has had some non-trivial alterations in the last several weeks, with a number of "Vehicle at the launch site" dates slipping to the following year. There are now just 5 entries for 2013, 12 for 2014, and 15 for 2015. Comparisons to what may be found on archive.org left as an exercise to the reader. With Tesla you see this with his building of "supercharger" stations for Tesla vehicles around the US, offering free charging or fast battery pack swaps (swaps limited to the Model S). Quite simply, it's not enough just to build an awesome product and market it. A successful business supports the customer from the moment of purchase until they no longer own/use the product. The customer focus is refreshing in this day and age of mostly "disposable" products imported from nations with cheap labor. It's no wonder Tesla is proving to be successful, despite the uphill battle faced by start-ups in the extremely conservative juggernauts which dominate the automobile industry. Finance via the early adopter is a great, and tried-and-true model, yet my feeling of being refreshed is awaiting the existence of a Tesla under $40K (before any rebates). And yes, I am indeed quite jealous of the "souped-up golf-cart" of a Tesla S some family friends have IIRC, the family friends have mentioned that the "free" charging is only if you buy the top-end Model S model. If you buy the lesser model, it is a $2000 addon. I think the US average residential price for a kWh is something like 11 cents (that is from memory and probably wrong), but for the sake of easy math lets call that $0.10/kWh so that is 20,000 kWh. What I don't know is how many kWhs it takes to charge the lesser Model S. I think the battery itself is rated at 60 kWh. rick jones -- Process shall set you free from the need for rational thought. these opinions are mine, all mine; HP might not want them anyway... feel free to post, OR email to rick.jones2 in hp.com but NOT BOTH... |
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On Thursday or thereabouts, Greg (Strider) Moore declared ...
"Jeff Findley" wrote in message I think what amazes me most about Elon is that he's actually *younger* than I It reminds me of Benjamin Franklin. Looking at his bio makes most people humble when they realize by the time they die, they won't have done 1/2 the things he did before 40. :-) Heck, I'd be proud of doing half the things he did AFTER 40! /dps -- Ieri, oggi, domani |
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Rick Jones wrote on 7/18/2013 :
IIRC, the family friends have mentioned that the "free" charging is only if you buy the top-end Model S model. If you buy the lesser model, it is a $2000 addon. I think the US average residential price for a kWh is something like 11 cents (that is from memory and probably wrong), but for the sake of easy math lets call that $0.10/kWh so that is 20,000 kWh. What I don't know is how many kWhs it takes to charge the lesser Model S. I think the battery itself is rated at 60 kWh. But the charging stations aren't being built at people's homes, they're being built at waypoints for people taking trips. And the charging is supposed to be fast, although you might as well stretch your legs while you're doing it, unlike the battery swap. /dps -- "I am not given to exaggeration, and when I say a thing I mean it" _Roughing It_, Mark Twain |
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