A revolutionary propulsion system

"Uncle Al" ha scritto nel messaggio
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asps wrote:

Subject: A revolutionary propulsion system
[snip]

One of the advantages of SC2.12 is that no reaction mass is used and
that
the specific momentum is million times greather than the momentum of the
ionic motors (which have a specific impulse much greater one of the
chemical
rockets).
[snip]

Perpetual motion machine of the first kind plus a reactionless drive.
Bull****.

false SC2.12 (i.e. PNN) is not a reactionless drive momentum and energy are
conserved:
http://www.dipmat.unipg.it/~bartocci/ep7/ep7-asps.htm


http://w0rli.home.att.net/youare.swf
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/sunshine.jpg

Space is homogeneous and isotropic. By Noether's theorem linear and
angular momenta therefore must be conserved. Time is homogeneous. By
Noether's theorem energy therefore must be conserved.

what you say is not general ...we have ALL experiments that prove the
contrary


Hey stooopid: Local symmetries create conservation laws through
Noether's theorem,

we showed PNN theory to several italian industries
http://www.asps.it/enti.htm
and they said that it might work ..... read our issue Nova Astronautica a
topic of http://www.asps.it


http://www.physics.ucla.edu/~cwp/art...h/mort186.html
http://www.emmynoether.com/
http://arXiv.org/abs/physics/9807044
http://www.physics.buffalo.edu/phy511/section3.pdf
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/noether.html

A conserved quantity derives from each symmetry commuting with time,

balle

and the reverse.

balle

A divergence-free current (conserved property) arises
if the Lagrangian or the action is invariant under continuous
transformation.

methaphysics ........ that don't want to see PNN experiments .........
methaphysics i.e. pre-galilean use of mind .....
the only way to change the reality is the experiment .....
http://www.asps.it/occhiale.htm

E.Laureti

asps wrote:
"Uncle Al" ha scritto nel messaggio
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asps wrote:

Subject: A revolutionary propulsion system

[snip]


One of the advantages of SC2.12 is that no reaction mass is used and

that

the specific momentum is million times greather than the momentum of the
ionic motors (which have a specific impulse much greater one of the

chemical

rockets).

[snip]

Perpetual motion machine of the first kind plus a reactionless drive.
Bull****.


false SC2.12 (i.e. PNN) is not a reactionless drive momentum and energy are
conserved:
http://www.dipmat.unipg.it/~bartocci/ep7/ep7-asps.htm



http://w0rli.home.att.net/youare.swf
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/sunshine.jpg

Space is homogeneous and isotropic. By Noether's theorem linear and
angular momenta therefore must be conserved. Time is homogeneous. By
Noether's theorem energy therefore must be conserved.


what you say is not general ...we have ALL experiments that prove the
contrary


Hey stooopid: Local symmetries create conservation laws through
Noether's theorem,


we showed PNN theory to several italian industries
http://www.asps.it/enti.htm
and they said that it might work ..... read our issue Nova Astronautica a
topic of http://www.asps.it


http://www.physics.ucla.edu/~cwp/art...h/mort186.html

http://www.emmynoether.com/
http://arXiv.org/abs/physics/9807044
http://www.physics.buffalo.edu/phy511/section3.pdf
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/noether.html

A conserved quantity derives from each symmetry commuting with time,


balle


and the reverse.


balle


A divergence-free current (conserved property) arises
if the Lagrangian or the action is invariant under continuous
transformation.


methaphysics ........ that don't want to see PNN experiments .........
methaphysics i.e. pre-galilean use of mind .....
the only way to change the reality is the experiment .....
http://www.asps.it/occhiale.htm

E.Laureti


Don't worry about Al.
He wouldn't believe it even if he
got a ride in it.
He's a dinosaur- you know- one brain
in the head and one in the tail. Unfortunately
the brain in his coccyx has been so traumatized
by incoming that it's permanently in control.
John

"John Sefton" ha scritto nel messaggio
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....snip.....

we showed PNN theory to several italian industries
http://www.asps.it/enti.htm
and they said that it might work ..... read our issue Nova Astronautica
a
topic of http://www.asps.it



http://www.physics.ucla.edu/~cwp/art...h/mort186.html

http://www.emmynoether.com/
http://arXiv.org/abs/physics/9807044
http://www.physics.buffalo.edu/phy511/section3.pdf
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/noether.html

A conserved quantity derives from each symmetry commuting with time,


balle


and the reverse.


balle


A divergence-free current (conserved property) arises
if the Lagrangian or the action is invariant under continuous
transformation.


methaphysics ........ that don't want to see PNN experiments .........
methaphysics i.e. pre-galilean use of mind .....
the only way to change the reality is the experiment .....
http://www.asps.it/occhiale.htm

E.Laureti


Don't worry about Al.
He wouldn't believe it even if he
got a ride in it.
He's a dinosaur- you know- one brain
in the head and one in the tail. Unfortunately
the brain in his coccyx has been so traumatized
by incoming that it's permanently in control.
John

......Al is "the ....... arrogance of mathematical physicists giving priority
to formalism against empirical facts....." http://www.asps.it/gotha.htm
.................
he is like the dinosaur priests of Santo Uffizio that don't want to see the
moon mountains in the Galileo telescope.........
so there is no mean to convince him .....
but only to wait that the evolution make the work....

asps wrote:

"John Sefton" ha scritto nel messaggio
...

...snip.....

we showed PNN theory to several italian industries
http://www.asps.it/enti.htm
and they said that it might work ..... read our issue Nova Astronautica
a
topic of http://www.asps.it



http://www.physics.ucla.edu/~cwp/art...h/mort186.html

http://www.emmynoether.com/
http://arXiv.org/abs/physics/9807044
http://www.physics.buffalo.edu/phy511/section3.pdf
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/noether.html

A conserved quantity derives from each symmetry commuting with time,


balle


and the reverse.


balle


A divergence-free current (conserved property) arises
if the Lagrangian or the action is invariant under continuous
transformation.


methaphysics ........ that don't want to see PNN experiments .........
methaphysics i.e. pre-galilean use of mind .....
the only way to change the reality is the experiment .....
http://www.asps.it/occhiale.htm

E.Laureti


Don't worry about Al.
He wouldn't believe it even if he
got a ride in it.
He's a dinosaur- you know- one brain
in the head and one in the tail. Unfortunately
the brain in his coccyx has been so traumatized
by incoming that it's permanently in control.
John

.....Al is "the ....... arrogance of mathematical physicists giving priority
to formalism against empirical facts....." http://www.asps.it/gotha.htm
................
he is like the dinosaur priests of Santo Uffizio that don't want to see the
moon mountains in the Galileo telescope.........
so there is no mean to convince him .....
but only to wait that the evolution make the work....

Go ahead, reduce your "invention" to practice. Ha ha ha. All talk,
no walk - just like a Coriolus thruster.
A Coriolus thruster chugs along a horizontal track and it even rises
up a vertical track. If you put it in a small (keel)boat it moves the
boat through the water without touching the water or tossing mass.
The bunko is then to solicit major investments for a Coriolus thruster
hovercraft or space propulsion.

A Coriolus thruster is an inefficient reaction engine. It has to push
against something (the boat will move at an angle, same as if it were
under sail and summing sail and keel vectors). If you dangle one from
a string it doesn't go anywhere - it spins in place like a whirling
dervish, and there is nothing in physical reality that will change
that short of hooking it to something that can push back. Cf:
helicopter. You either have counter-rotating top fans, or a side fan,
or you don't go anwyhere.

You are either world class stupid or a second class crook. Whatever
you have, it will do nothing floating in free space. If your math
says otherwise, go back and find your idiot error. Go ahead, reduce
your "invention" to practice. Ha ha ha. Like Podkletnov, it can only
work absent people who are hostile to its intrinsic impossiblity.

Physics is a series of innternally self-consistent axiomatic
mathematical constructs bounded by empirical falsification. It
contains no internal errors, git. If you wish to do something clever
you don't have many choices:

1) Empirically counterdemonstrate a founding postulate of existing
theory,

http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf

2) Cleverly violate a boundary condition in existing theory,

Planck's constant (h, enforces uncertainty in measurement; h-bar is
the fundamental unit of action), Newton's constant (Big G, scales
gravitation), and lightspeed (c, enforces information transfer delay)
define physics:

? h=h G=G c=infinity
mechanics,
electrostatics: h=zero G=zero c=infinity
classical physics: h=zero G=G c=infinity
quantum mechanics: h=h G=zero c=infinity
special relativity: h=zero G=zero c=c
general relativity: h=zero G=G c=c
quantum field theory: h=h G=zero c=c
Theory of Everything,

3) Evolve a superset of theory that does not contradict foregoing
observations, then goes further.


What you have, fool, is ludicrous ****.

--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/eotvos.htm
(Do something naughty to physics)

"Uncle Al" ha scritto nel messaggio
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asps wrote:

"John Sefton" ha scritto nel messaggio
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...snip.....

we showed PNN theory to several italian industries
http://www.asps.it/enti.htm
and they said that it might work ..... read our issue Nova
Astronautica
a
.........snip

Go ahead, reduce your "invention" to practice.

SC2.12 is only practice and experiments.
We needn't to spend words for it.
It superates the tests on ballistic pendulum, torsional pendulum, arm scale.
We are open to test it in all the ways that the scientific team of a
financer want.
Your idiotic examples and theories on everything are ****.

E.Laureti

http://www.asps.it

asps wrote:

false SC2.12 (i.e. PNN) is not a reactionless drive momentum and energy are
conserved:
http://www.dipmat.unipg.it/~bartocci/ep7/ep7-asps.htm

Obviously wrong, idiot.

Paul