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On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 5:01:28 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 7:45:12 PM UTC+1, wrote: Ireland is a British Isle. Just as America is a British colony. No, there were thirteen small colonies along the coast, but those gained independence in 1776, in case you haven't heard. Most of the United States' land area was never under "British" control, and most certainly isn't now. |
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Gerald Kelleher wrote:
On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 10:00:59 PM UTC+1, Quadibloc wrote: On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 2:37:16 PM UTC-6, Gerald Kelleher wrote: To think all the iconic heroes adored by empiricists and all there is is left is a sci-fi addict living in his homocentric head. Well, I should not have expected that repeating myself for the umpteenth time would finally convince you that a "rotation" and a "day" can be two different things. Finish this out once and for all - you believe the Earth doesn't rotate once each weekday and there are more rotations than days across a year through a fiction inherited from an older generation. Pity none of you can feel ashamed as that is better than feeling nothing for the great cycles that make life possible. Now stay away. Great cycles which make life possible . You mean like the urea cycle? https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ur...GL6aKZzqxxM%3A Or the Krebs cycle? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citric_acid_cycle |
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On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 10:00:59 PM UTC+1, Quadibloc wrote:
And that is what you reject - stripping the heavens of their exalted status as something closer to God than the mundane world around us that scientists and engineers can take apart and tinker with. I think it is much simpler than that. Gerald can add or multiply, but he can't do any maths beyond that. He goes back before Kepler over and over again, because Kepler does hard sums, and Gerald can't handle them. He imagines himself discovering universes by looking at Youtube because he can't follow basic science from 400 years ago. |
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On Monday, 17 October 2016 06:50:39 UTC-4, wrote:
On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 10:10:00 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote: On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 11:06:27 AM UTC-4, Chris.B wrote: On Sunday, 16 October 2016 17:00:14 UTC+2, RichA wrote: On Sunday, 16 October 2016 10:48:16 UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote: On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 8:35:43 AM UTC-6, Chris.B wrote: Desperately fading? Are we talking colours as in the [allegedly] desperate habit of wearing fawn polyester into maturity? Or do they suffer from some half-life which denies them the internal glow of youth? I should have thought his meaning was clear. The middle class is being eroded by economic changes, and so people are being kicked out of it due to a lack of money. This makes them desperate, and so they're turning to metal detectors in the hope of finding buried treasure. John Savard I've read a couple of stories about just this. Unfortunately, metal detecting tends to yield things like old dimes to most people who engage in it. Some get lucky. What is the law on found archeological items in precious metals? The UK has a fairly decent system [I believe] which rewards the finder. Other countries do not and the find belongs to the crown or the exchequer. This is likely to lead straight to eBay. Don't know for the most part. Israel keeps 100%, finder gets nothing except congratulations. Florida I believe keeps 50%, if those shipwreck finds are any indication. Israel and Florida need to find their own treasure. Of course, this isn't much different from the confiscatory "progressive" tax systems that liberals love so much. "All that matters is the security of the state." -The Evil that Men Do |
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On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 11:10:14 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:
Gerald Kelleher wrote: On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 10:00:59 PM UTC+1, Quadibloc wrote: On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 2:37:16 PM UTC-6, Gerald Kelleher wrote: To think all the iconic heroes adored by empiricists and all there is is left is a sci-fi addict living in his homocentric head. Well, I should not have expected that repeating myself for the umpteenth time would finally convince you that a "rotation" and a "day" can be two different things. Finish this out once and for all - you believe the Earth doesn't rotate once each weekday and there are more rotations than days across a year through a fiction inherited from an older generation. Pity none of you can feel ashamed as that is better than feeling nothing for the great cycles that make life possible. Now stay away. Great cycles which make life possible . You mean like the urea cycle? The one where the Sun comes into view each morning or the longer cycle where the Sun comes into view only once an orbital cycle at the South and North poles. What hard mental shell prevents you from having that feeling that you participate in these great cycles, not just as a spectator but your very life depends on them. To be inspired and be inspiring connects Divine creation with the individual opportunity to be inspiring and a group of people who imagine that there are more rotations than weekdays can never be so. Maybe one or two just realized the homocentric rotating celestial sphere is an illusion of all things including the planets, the Sun and the other stars orbiting the individual for two sticks in any direction will give that result when allied with timekeeping averages. Out of sheer horror it should cause many to stop and begin the recovery of astronomy and that may yet happen. The British heritage is with outcasts within their era like Harrison and Blake and not with the self-styled academics following voodoo and bluffing as you did. |
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On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 10:49:23 AM UTC-4, Gerald Kelleher wrote:
On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 2:57:19 PM UTC+1, wrote: As with astronomy, there are many paths to enlightenment. Yuk ! What do you have against enlightenment? |
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On Tuesday, October 18, 2016 at 5:10:04 AM UTC-6, wrote:
On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 10:49:23 AM UTC-4, Gerald Kelleher wrote: On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 2:57:19 PM UTC+1, wrote: As with astronomy, there are many paths to enlightenment. Yuk ! What do you have against enlightenment? Enlightenment is good. But perhaps the idea that there are many paths to it is a problem. "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." - Acts 4:12 That sort of thing. John Savard |
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On Tuesday, October 18, 2016 at 12:30:34 AM UTC-6, Gerald Kelleher wrote:
Maybe one or two just realized the homocentric rotating celestial sphere is an illusion of all things including the planets, the Sun and the other stars orbiting the individual A *stationary* celestial sphere, not a rotating one, is what we use, and we center it on the Sun, but it centers approximately on the Earth and the individual as well, since its size is approximately infinite for our purposes. A stationary celestial sphere is not incompatible with Copernicanism; it is neither geocentric nor homocentric. John Savard |
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On Tuesday, October 18, 2016 at 8:12:18 AM UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:
On Tuesday, October 18, 2016 at 5:10:04 AM UTC-6, wrote: On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 10:49:23 AM UTC-4, Gerald Kelleher wrote: On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 2:57:19 PM UTC+1, wrote: As with astronomy, there are many paths to enlightenment. Yuk ! What do you have against enlightenment? Enlightenment is good. But perhaps the idea that there are many paths to it is a problem. So you are saying that is a "right way" to learn about astronomy? Pontificate, oh Pedantic One. I'll go make popcorn. |
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On Tuesday, October 18, 2016 at 7:03:14 AM UTC-6, wrote:
So you are saying that is a "right way" to learn about astronomy? No, just that he might have been concerned about the attitude that there were many ways to enlightenment being extended into other fields instead of astronomy. John Savard |
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