Hobbies that are slowly dying due to apathetic millenials

On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 11:06:27 AM UTC-4, Chris.B wrote:
On Sunday, 16 October 2016 17:00:14 UTC+2, RichA wrote:
On Sunday, 16 October 2016 10:48:16 UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:
On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 8:35:43 AM UTC-6, Chris.B wrote:

Desperately fading? Are we talking colours as in the [allegedly] desperate
habit of wearing fawn polyester into maturity? Or do they suffer from some
half-life which denies them the internal glow of youth?

I should have thought his meaning was clear.

The middle class is being eroded by economic changes, and so people are being
kicked out of it due to a lack of money. This makes them desperate, and so
they're turning to metal detectors in the hope of finding buried treasure.

John Savard

I've read a couple of stories about just this. Unfortunately, metal detecting tends to yield things like old dimes to most people who engage in it. Some get lucky.

What is the law on found archeological items in precious metals?
The UK has a fairly decent system [I believe] which rewards the finder.
Other countries do not and the find belongs to the crown or the exchequer.
This is likely to lead straight to eBay.

Don't know for the most part. Israel keeps 100%, finder gets nothing except congratulations. Florida I believe keeps 50%, if those shipwreck finds are any indication.

On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 11:06:27 AM UTC-4, Chris.B wrote:
On Sunday, 16 October 2016 17:00:14 UTC+2, RichA wrote:
On Sunday, 16 October 2016 10:48:16 UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:
On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 8:35:43 AM UTC-6, Chris.B wrote:

Desperately fading? Are we talking colours as in the [allegedly] desperate
habit of wearing fawn polyester into maturity? Or do they suffer from some
half-life which denies them the internal glow of youth?

I should have thought his meaning was clear.

The middle class is being eroded by economic changes, and so people are being
kicked out of it due to a lack of money. This makes them desperate, and so
they're turning to metal detectors in the hope of finding buried treasure.

John Savard

I've read a couple of stories about just this. Unfortunately, metal detecting tends to yield things like old dimes to most people who engage in it. Some get lucky.

What is the law on found archeological items in precious metals?
The UK has a fairly decent system [I believe] which rewards the finder.
Other countries do not and the find belongs to the crown or the exchequer.
This is likely to lead straight to eBay.

Forgot. Canada shares find value but may forbid export, which they do for major meteorite finds.

On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 3:56:23 AM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
Electronics, ham radio, amateur astronomy, microscopy, stamp collecting,
woodworking (most of it), metal working. The millenials and teens only want to play video games, text on their cellphones and go to restaurants to be seen.
One growing hobby is metal-detecting because of the desperation of the fading
middle class.

Some hobbies have the advantage that once the basic equipment/skills are acquired the ongoing costs are nil. Amateur astronomy is like that. A simple 60mm refractor from a department store can provide years of astronomy enjoyment to those who are motivated. (A very few oddball kids might be harmed by such a telescope, however.)

Metal detectors can be run indefinitely for just a few cents of electricity per month. Photography used to be too expensive for most, given the costs of film and processing.

My current favorite hobby is much more expensive than astronomy.

On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 10:10:00 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 11:06:27 AM UTC-4, Chris.B wrote:
On Sunday, 16 October 2016 17:00:14 UTC+2, RichA wrote:
On Sunday, 16 October 2016 10:48:16 UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:
On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 8:35:43 AM UTC-6, Chris.B wrote:

Desperately fading? Are we talking colours as in the [allegedly] desperate
habit of wearing fawn polyester into maturity? Or do they suffer from some
half-life which denies them the internal glow of youth?

I should have thought his meaning was clear.

The middle class is being eroded by economic changes, and so people are being
kicked out of it due to a lack of money. This makes them desperate, and so
they're turning to metal detectors in the hope of finding buried treasure.

John Savard

I've read a couple of stories about just this. Unfortunately, metal detecting tends to yield things like old dimes to most people who engage in it. Some get lucky.

What is the law on found archeological items in precious metals?
The UK has a fairly decent system [I believe] which rewards the finder.
Other countries do not and the find belongs to the crown or the exchequer.
This is likely to lead straight to eBay.

Don't know for the most part. Israel keeps 100%, finder gets nothing except
congratulations. Florida I believe keeps 50%, if those shipwreck finds are any indication.

Israel and Florida need to find their own treasure. Of course, this isn't much different from the confiscatory "progressive" tax systems that liberals love so much.

On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 11:22:27 AM UTC+1, wrote:


My current favorite hobby is much more expensive than astronomy.

All the money in the world cannot buy you an astronomical insight my boy no more than you can buy you an extra minute of life. In your mediocrity 'astronomy' is a hobby as it is for many others here with magnification devices however astronomy is nothing less than participation in creation and the great cycles that make life possible, even for the small-minded and unimaginative.

On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 7:39:04 AM UTC-4, Gerald Kelleher wrote:

'astronomy' is a hobby as it is for many others here

What exactly is it for you, birdman?

Surely, it can't be your profession!

the small-minded and unimaginative.

That would be you.

On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 1:22:56 PM UTC+1, wrote:
On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 7:39:04 AM UTC-4, Gerald Kelleher wrote:

'astronomy' is a hobby as it is for many others here

What exactly is it for you, birdman?


As a Christian, the worse condition of humanity was not disbelief but mediocrity -

“I know your works; I know that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either cold or hot.So, because you are lukewarm, neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth. For you say, ‘I am rich and affluent and have no need of anything,’ and yet do not realize that you are wretched, pitiable, poor, blind, and naked" Christian truth

For Christ the rich were to be pitied more than the poor for the same reason you think astronomy is an expensive hobby -

Most people are other people. Their thoughts are some one else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation. Christ was not merely the supreme individualist, but he was the first individualist in history. People have tried to make him out an ordinary philanthropist, or ranked him as an altruist with the scientific and sentimental. But he was really neither one nor the other. Pity he has, of course, for the poor, for those who are shut up in prisons, for the lowly, for the wretched; but he has far more pity for the rich, for the hard hedonists, for those who waste their freedom in becoming slaves to things, for those who wear soft raiment and live in kings' houses. Riches and pleasure seemed to him to be really greater tragedies than poverty or sorrow. And as for altruism, who knew better than he that it is vocation not volition that determines us, and that one cannot gather grapes of thorns or figs from thistles? " Oscar Wilde, De Profundis

You can get nothing from your posts unless goading others into uttering inanities passes off as a discussion. Hopefully things work out for you in your new expensive hobby.

On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 8:59:21 AM UTC-4, Gerald Kelleher wrote:

You can get nothing from your posts unless goading others into uttering
inanities

Who is goading you into uttering inanities? You seem to be self-motivated in that particular area.


Hopefully things work out for you in your new expensive hobby.

I said more expensive, not expensive. The costs work out to about $500 US per year for a typical participant, but can be much less or much more depending on how dedicated or resourceful one might be. The startup costs can be relatively small at first but easily reach into the thousands depending on level of interest. As with astronomy, there are many paths to enlightenment.

On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 2:57:19 PM UTC+1, wrote:
On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 8:59:21 AM UTC-4, Gerald Kelleher wrote:

You can get nothing from your posts unless goading others into uttering
inanities

Who is goading you into uttering inanities? You seem to be self-motivated in that particular area.


Hopefully things work out for you in your new expensive hobby.

I said more expensive, not expensive. The costs work out to about $500 US per year for a typical participant, but can be much less or much more depending on how dedicated or resourceful one might be. The startup costs can be relatively small at first but easily reach into the thousands depending on level of interest. As with astronomy, there are many paths to enlightenment.

Yuk !

Gerald Kelleher wrote:
On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 1:22:56 PM UTC+1, wrote:
On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 7:39:04 AM UTC-4, Gerald Kelleher wrote:

'astronomy' is a hobby as it is for many others here

What exactly is it for you, birdman?


As a Christian, the worse condition of humanity was not disbelief but mediocrity -

“I know your works; I know that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you
were either cold or hot.So, because you are lukewarm, neither hot nor
cold, I will spit you out of my mouth. For you say, ‘I am rich and
affluent and have no need of anything,’ and yet do not realize that you
are wretched, pitiable, poor, blind, and naked" Christian truth

For Christ the rich were to be pitied more than the poor for the same
reason you think astronomy is an expensive hobby -

Most people are other people. Their thoughts are some one else's
opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation. Christ was
not merely the supreme individualist, but he was the first individualist
in history. People have tried to make him out an ordinary philanthropist,
or ranked him as an altruist with the scientific and sentimental. But he
was really neither one nor the other. Pity he has, of course, for the
poor, for those who are shut up in prisons, for the lowly, for the
wretched; but he has far more pity for the rich, for the hard hedonists,
for those who waste their freedom in becoming slaves to things, for those
who wear soft raiment and live in kings' houses. Riches and pleasure
seemed to him to be really greater tragedies than poverty or sorrow. And
as for altruism, who knew better than he that it is vocation not volition
that determines us, and that one cannot gather grapes of thorns or figs
from thistles? " Oscar Wilde, De Profundis

You can get nothing from your posts unless goading others into uttering
inanities passes off as a discussion. Hopefully things work out for you
in your new expensive hobby.






You've got a long way to ride before you can aspire to mediocrity.