a possible way to "cancel" fog??

"Gary Samuels III" wrote in message
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This is a quote from another post:

" There is such a way, I've been doing it for years. What you need to be
able
to do is to generate your own fog, reverse its phase, and push this
artificial pocket of fog directly in front of the fog you're trying to
observe through. Within moments, the fog cancels and you're back to
observing. Of course, this won't work if there's excessive wind, fog
that's
too thick to begin with, or rapidly dropping temperature."

Woah! Is this actually feasible? I've never heard of using anti-fog to
cancel fog.

Gary


Of course it's feasible but you have a lot of light polution left over from
the fog-antifog reaction.

This is a quote from another post:

" There is such a way, I've been doing it for years. What you need to be
able
to do is to generate your own fog, reverse its phase, and push this
artificial pocket of fog directly in front of the fog you're trying to
observe through. Within moments, the fog cancels and you're back to
observing. Of course, this won't work if there's excessive wind, fog that's
too thick to begin with, or rapidly dropping temperature."

Woah! Is this actually feasible? I've never heard of using anti-fog to
cancel fog.

Gary

On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 23:25:03 GMT, Gary Samuels III wrote:

This is a quote from another post:

" There is such a way, I've been doing it for years. What you need to be
able
to do is to generate your own fog, reverse its phase, and push this
artificial pocket of fog directly in front of the fog you're trying to
observe through. Within moments, the fog cancels and you're back to
observing. Of course, this won't work if there's excessive wind, fog that's
too thick to begin with, or rapidly dropping temperature."


LMAO!!!! ))

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On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 23:25:03 GMT, Gary Samuels III wrote:

This is a quote from another post:

" There is such a way, I've been doing it for years. What you need to
be
able
to do is to generate your own fog, reverse its phase, and push this
artificial pocket of fog directly in front of the fog you're trying to
observe through. Within moments, the fog cancels and you're back to
observing. Of course, this won't work if there's excessive wind, fog
that's
too thick to begin with, or rapidly dropping temperature."


LMAO!!!! ))


I thought so too, but he reaaly seems to believe that it works. Oh
well.....

Gary

On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 00:45:03 GMT, Gary Samuels III wrote:

"Ugo" wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 23:25:03 GMT, Gary Samuels III wrote:

This is a quote from another post:

" There is such a way, I've been doing it for years. What you need to
be
able
to do is to generate your own fog, reverse its phase, and push this
artificial pocket of fog directly in front of the fog you're trying to
observe through. Within moments, the fog cancels and you're back to
observing. Of course, this won't work if there's excessive wind, fog
that's
too thick to begin with, or rapidly dropping temperature."


LMAO!!!! ))


I thought so too, but he reaaly seems to believe that it works. Oh
well.....

Believing in something doesn't make it any more true than it is... :-)

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"Ugo" wrote in message
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On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 00:45:03 GMT, Gary Samuels III wrote:

"Ugo" wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 23:25:03 GMT, Gary Samuels III wrote:

This is a quote from another post:

" There is such a way, I've been doing it for years. What you need to
be
able
to do is to generate your own fog, reverse its phase, and push this
artificial pocket of fog directly in front of the fog you're trying to
observe through. Within moments, the fog cancels and you're back to
observing. Of course, this won't work if there's excessive wind, fog
that's
too thick to begin with, or rapidly dropping temperature."


LMAO!!!! ))


I thought so too, but he reaaly seems to believe that it works. Oh
well.....

Believing in something doesn't make it any more true than it is... :-)

Unless a hundred million people believe in the same thing, it becomes true,
for them, and the rest of us too, if they go-a conquering.

O'Ryan Wells.


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"O'Ryan Wells" wrote in message
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LMAO!!!! ))


I thought so too, but he reaaly seems to believe that it works. Oh
well.....

Believing in something doesn't make it any more true than it is... :-)

Unless a hundred million people believe in the same thing, it becomes
true,
for them, and the rest of us too, if they go-a conquering.
snip

Especially since a REALLY BIG fan would work so much better.


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This is a quote from another post:

" There is such a way, I've been doing it for years. What you need to be
able
to do is to generate your own fog, reverse its phase, and push this
artificial pocket of fog directly in front of the fog you're trying to
observe through. Within moments, the fog cancels and you're back to
observing. Of course, this won't work if there's excessive wind, fog
that's
too thick to begin with, or rapidly dropping temperature."

Woah! Is this actually feasible? I've never heard of using anti-fog to
cancel fog.

Sure! You just have to make sure you have the phase completely reversed, or
you will make it even worse. And as the original poster noted, there still
isn't a solution for a windy day, very thick fog, or rapidly dropping
temperature.

The pioneering work was done at CalTech through a military project. It's one
of the offspring of Star Wars, just like the adaptive optics that are now in
common use among professionals. Only this is more available to the amateurs.
Originally the problem was they could only make it work in very small areas.
As it drifted, the phase tended to shift back, giving you more fog than you
started with. That was solved with a proprietary zonal control of the phase
shift, allowing much larger areas to be covered while maintaining phase
stability.

This process is what gave birth to the "Clear Skies" in so many .sigs among
astronomers. It's still a little spendy, but not much more than a good apo.

Clear Skies

Chuck Taylor
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Gary

"CLT" not@thisaddress wrote in message
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Woah! Is this actually feasible? I've never heard of using anti-fog to
cancel fog.

Sure! You just have to make sure you have the phase completely reversed,
or
you will make it even worse. And as the original poster noted, there still
isn't a solution for a windy day, very thick fog, or rapidly dropping
temperature.

The pioneering work was done at CalTech through a military project. It's
one
of the offspring of Star Wars, just like the adaptive optics that are now
in
common use among professionals. Only this is more available to the
amateurs.
Originally the problem was they could only make it work in very small
areas.
As it drifted, the phase tended to shift back, giving you more fog than
you
started with. That was solved with a proprietary zonal control of the
phase
shift, allowing much larger areas to be covered while maintaining phase
stability.

This process is what gave birth to the "Clear Skies" in so many .sigs
among
astronomers. It's still a little spendy, but not much more than a good
apo.
snip

This is a total sham. The government is just telling you this because they
don't want you to know the real truth, which is that you can use the
gravitational field produced by each fog particle (even though it is
slight), to create a HUGE array based gravitational lense. With a nice thick
fog cover, you can see clear to Planet-X and beyond. But of course, they
can't let us know this, so they spread propaganda about anti-fog systems and
the like. CLT is just part of the machine. Fight the power.

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BV.
www.iheartmypond.com

This is a total sham. The government is just telling you this because they
don't want you to know the real truth, which is that you can use the
gravitational field produced by each fog particle (even though it is
slight), to create a HUGE array based gravitational lense. With a nice
thick
fog cover, you can see clear to Planet-X and beyond. But of course, they
can't let us know this, so they spread propaganda about anti-fog systems
and
the like. CLT is just part of the machine. Fight the power.

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BV.
www.iheartmypond.com



Call it what you will, but I was the original poster of my system and I do
use it on a regular basis to cancel out fog. I explained what I do and how
it works in another post, so won't bother repeating it here. Whether or not
"the government" is using it sounds like another "Roswell cover-up" or
similar. Suffice to say that it works for me and has for several years now.
There are obviously problems, but as long as rapidly dropping temps,
excessive wind, etc. stay out of the way, the system works and works well.
Why put up with something if there's a way to get rid of it? For my locale,
fog appears better than 70% of the time and it is often too thick to allow
normal seeing; hence, the development of my system which, as another poster
mentioned, really isn't anything new.

Wan