Once and for all...are humans or robots better for Mars?

On Feb 20, 8:31*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
" wrote:
Well lindsey Graham said today on meet the press social security has
to be cut by about 1/3rd. They will needs test SS and cut benefits to
anyone 55 or less.

So just where will the $ come from for anything space related with SS
being cut by 1/3?

The two are totally unrelated.

--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
*territory."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --G. Behn

the voters will never stand by and let congress fund human space
flight while congress cuts social security benefits........

On Feb 20, 10:18*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
" wrote:
On Feb 20, 8:31 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
" wrote:
Well lindsey Graham said today on meet the press social security has
to be cut by about 1/3rd. They will needs test SS and cut benefits to
anyone 55 or less.

So just where will the $ come from for anything space related with SS
being cut by 1/3?

The two are totally unrelated.

the voters will never stand by and let congress fund human space
flight while congress cuts social security benefits........

Oh, really? *So how can we still have human space flight NOW, then,
since this will hardly be the first time (IF it actually happens) that
social security benefits have been cut?

--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
*territory."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --G. Behn- Hide quoted text -

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our country hasnt had a economic dump of this magnitude since the
great depression....

minor cuts are one thing, but the reality of today is worse. and
bernake said it will take 10 years for recovery

On Feb 20, 11:02*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
" wrote:
On Feb 20, 10:18 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
" wrote:
On Feb 20, 8:31 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
" wrote:
Well lindsey Graham said today on meet the press social security has
to be cut by about 1/3rd. They will needs test SS and cut benefits to
anyone 55 or less.

So just where will the $ come from for anything space related with SS
being cut by 1/3?

The two are totally unrelated.

the voters will never stand by and let congress fund human space
flight while congress cuts social security benefits........

Oh, really? So how can we still have human space flight NOW, then,
since this will hardly be the first time (IF it actually happens) that
social security benefits have been cut?

our country hasnt had a economic dump of this magnitude since the
great depression....

But not what you said. *You said "the voters will never stand by and
let congress fund human space flight while congress cuts social
security benefits........". *Yet social security has been cut before
and we still have congress funding human space flight.

Now you want to attempt a stealth drag of the goalposts?



minor cuts are one thing, but the reality of today is worse. and
bernake said it will take 10 years for recovery

Again, not what you said. *You said "the voters will never stand by
and let congress fund human space flight while congress cuts social
security benefits........". *Yet social security has been cut before
and we still have congress funding human space flight.

Now you want to attempt a stealth drag of the goalposts?

--
"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the
*soul with evil."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Socrates- Hide quoted text -

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and when has SS been cut by 1/3rd? or means testing?

minor tweaking has occured before, but this is very different

cut by 1/3 isnt cutting its slash and burning benefits.

with such a dramatically large cut younger people may not want to
continue paying.

In article da1b704b-55bd-4ff3-8990-e43409b26708
@x11g2000yqc.googlegroups.com, says...

the uninhabitible for 1000 years is chernobyl

Which would never happen in the west, because we don't use that design.
The Russians also decided not to build anymore reactors with the same
design.

Jeff
--
" Solids are a branch of fireworks, not rocketry. :-) :-) ", Henry
Spencer 1/28/2011

On Feb 21, 9:49*am, Jeff Findley wrote:
In article da1b704b-55bd-4ff3-8990-e43409b26708
@x11g2000yqc.googlegroups.com, says...



the uninhabitible for 1000 years is chernobyl

Which would never happen in the west, because we don't use that design. *
The Russians also decided not to build anymore reactors with the same
design.

Jeff
--
" Solids are a branch of fireworks, not rocketry. :-) :-) ", Henry
Spencer 1/28/2011

yeah but spent core storage pools are in not hardened steel buildings
like standard streel business buildings and contain many times the
amount of fuel released in chernobyl.

reactors are at least in containment but not the waste core pools

On Feb 21, 10:19*am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
" wrote:
On Feb 20, 11:02 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
" wrote:
On Feb 20, 10:18 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
" wrote:
On Feb 20, 8:31 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
" wrote:
Well lindsey Graham said today on meet the press social security has
to be cut by about 1/3rd. They will needs test SS and cut benefits to
anyone 55 or less.

So just where will the $ come from for anything space related with SS
being cut by 1/3?

The two are totally unrelated.

the voters will never stand by and let congress fund human space
flight while congress cuts social security benefits........

Oh, really? So how can we still have human space flight NOW, then,
since this will hardly be the first time (IF it actually happens) that
social security benefits have been cut?

our country hasnt had a economic dump of this magnitude since the
great depression....

But not what you said. You said "the voters will never stand by and
let congress fund human space flight while congress cuts social
security benefits........". Yet social security has been cut before
and we still have congress funding human space flight.

Now you want to attempt a stealth drag of the goalposts?

minor cuts are one thing, but the reality of today is worse. and
bernake said it will take 10 years for recovery

Again, not what you said. You said "the voters will never stand by
and let congress fund human space flight while congress cuts social
security benefits........". Yet social security has been cut before
and we still have congress funding human space flight.

Now you want to attempt a stealth drag of the goalposts?

and when has SS been cut by 1/3rd? or means testing?

Irrelevant, since those weren't conditions in your original statement.
They also haven't happened yet and I wouldn't hold my breath waiting
for it.

Means testing won't mean much, since you pay taxes on your SS now
based on your 'means'. *



minor tweaking has occured before, but this is very different

Again, not what you said. *You said "the voters will never stand by
and let congress fund human space flight while congress cuts social
security benefits........". Yet social security has been cut before
and we still have congress funding human space flight.

Keep dragging on those goalposts, Bobbert.

--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
*territory."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --G. Behn- Hide quoted text -

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hey the point is.........

government has no choice but to cut spending.... dramatically. the
last 30 years economy was a fake, and they knewit all along. well fake
finally collapsed......

perhaps your job will see a zero budget? i mean rather than cut space
travel, lets cut the military..

which honestly must be cut too......

In article
,
" wrote:

On Feb 21, 10:19*am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
" wrote:
On Feb 20, 11:02 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
" wrote:
On Feb 20, 10:18 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
" wrote:
On Feb 20, 8:31 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
" wrote:
Well lindsey Graham said today on meet the press social security
has
to be cut by about 1/3rd. They will needs test SS and cut
benefits to
anyone 55 or less.

So just where will the $ come from for anything space related
with SS
being cut by 1/3?

The two are totally unrelated.

the voters will never stand by and let congress fund human space
flight while congress cuts social security benefits........

Oh, really? So how can we still have human space flight NOW, then,
since this will hardly be the first time (IF it actually happens)
that
social security benefits have been cut?

our country hasnt had a economic dump of this magnitude since the
great depression....

But not what you said. You said "the voters will never stand by and
let congress fund human space flight while congress cuts social
security benefits........". Yet social security has been cut before
and we still have congress funding human space flight.

Now you want to attempt a stealth drag of the goalposts?

minor cuts are one thing, but the reality of today is worse. and
bernake said it will take 10 years for recovery

Again, not what you said. You said "the voters will never stand by
and let congress fund human space flight while congress cuts social
security benefits........". Yet social security has been cut before
and we still have congress funding human space flight.

Now you want to attempt a stealth drag of the goalposts?

and when has SS been cut by 1/3rd? or means testing?

Irrelevant, since those weren't conditions in your original statement.
They also haven't happened yet and I wouldn't hold my breath waiting
for it.

Means testing won't mean much, since you pay taxes on your SS now
based on your 'means'. *



minor tweaking has occured before, but this is very different

Again, not what you said. *You said "the voters will never stand by
and let congress fund human space flight while congress cuts social
security benefits........". Yet social security has been cut before
and we still have congress funding human space flight.

Keep dragging on those goalposts, Bobbert.

--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
*territory."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --G. Behn- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

hey the point is.........

government has no choice but to cut spending.... dramatically. the
last 30 years economy was a fake, and they knewit all along. well fake
finally collapsed......

perhaps your job will see a zero budget? i mean rather than cut space
travel, lets cut the military..

which honestly must be cut too......

And if there is a real possibility of the government being shut down
shouldn't we bring our military home while we still have money.

--
The Chinese pretend their goods are good and we pretend our money
is good, or is it the reverse?

In article ,
Jeff Findley wrote:

In article da1b704b-55bd-4ff3-8990-e43409b26708
@x11g2000yqc.googlegroups.com, says...

the uninhabitible for 1000 years is chernobyl

Which would never happen in the west, because we don't use that design.
The Russians also decided not to build anymore reactors with the same
design.

However, nearly a dozen are still operating, which is slightly
frightening.

--
Mike Ash
Radio Free Earth
Broadcasting from our climate-controlled studios deep inside the Moon

On 22 Feb, 05:08, Fred J. McCall wrote:
" wrote:
On Feb 21, 9:49 am, Jeff Findley wrote:
In article da1b704b-55bd-4ff3-8990-e43409b26708
@x11g2000yqc.googlegroups.com, says...

the uninhabitible for 1000 years is chernobyl

Which would never happen in the west, because we don't use that design..
The Russians also decided not to build anymore reactors with the same
design.

yeah but spent core storage pools are in not hardened steel buildings
like standard streel business buildings and contain many times the
amount of fuel released in chernobyl.

Most of that fuel has cooled enough to be more manageable. *Just what
do you think is going to damage a steel and concrete liner multiple
feet thick that is let into the ground?



reactors are at least in containment but not the waste core pools

Because they don't need to be. *They're simply not that dangerous,
despite your repeated ignorant attempts to claim that they are.

--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
*truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-- Thomas Jefferson

Why another thread?