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Old January 25th 05, 02:04 AM
Tom Cuddihy
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And now it's the other things that need fixing. What's your point?
Hubble remains a uniquely capable resource; no replacement for it has
even been planned. (JWST will work in the IR, assuming it doesn't get
axed next.)


Uniquely capable? Now that adaptive optics on ground based scopes are
yielding better resolution than Hubble at optical frequencies, exactly
what sliver of the spectrum do you think we're missing out on?
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Old January 25th 05, 03:30 AM
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In article .com,
Tom Cuddihy wrote:
Hubble remains a uniquely capable resource; no replacement for it has
even been planned...


Uniquely capable? Now that adaptive optics on ground based scopes are
yielding better resolution than Hubble at optical frequencies, exactly
what sliver of the spectrum do you think we're missing out on?


Does the word "ultraviolet" ring a bell?

How about the phrase "darker sky background than any ground telescope"?
(Yes, this matters, for very faint objects in particular.)

To say nothing of minor issues like being able to stare at (favorably
placed) sky fields for days on end, something no major ground telescope
can do, given the absence of observatories in the polar regions.
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Old January 25th 05, 05:43 AM
richard schumacher
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In article .com,
"Tom Cuddihy" wrote:

And now it's the other things that need fixing. What's your point?
Hubble remains a uniquely capable resource; no replacement for it has
even been planned. (JWST will work in the IR, assuming it doesn't get
axed next.)


Uniquely capable? Now that adaptive optics on ground based scopes are
yielding better resolution than Hubble at optical frequencies, exactly
what sliver of the spectrum do you think we're missing out on?


The little sliver shorter than about 400 nm called the "ultraviolet".
You're welcome.
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Old January 25th 05, 06:25 AM
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They say the repair mission would be too dangerous.

But, have they asked Americans if any one would volunteer?

I would.

It'd be a unique (and free) experience to get into space, do space
walks, and such.
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Old January 25th 05, 02:09 PM
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"PagCal" wrote in message
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They say the repair mission would be too dangerous.

But, have they asked Americans if any one would volunteer?


No offense, why ask untrained people when the trained people (i.e.
astronauts) have already said they'd fly a repair mission?



I would.

It'd be a unique (and free) experience to get into space, do space
walks, and such.



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Old January 26th 05, 06:08 AM
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Greg D. Moore (Strider) wrote:
"PagCal" wrote in message
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They say the repair mission would be too dangerous.

But, have they asked Americans if any one would volunteer?



No offense, why ask untrained people when the trained people (i.e.
astronauts) have already said they'd fly a repair mission?


The administration, and therefore NASA, has said they didn't want to fly
the mission because it was too dangerous - that, because of the orbit of
the telescope, there's only one way back.

So, I'd like to relieve them of this burden. I'll be glad to take the risk.

As for training, I'll volunteer for it as well. It wouldn't cost them a
dime for my salary.

Do I need more credentials than I'm a physicist, an aircraft pilot, AND,
I used to travel around the world fixing computers. Flying into orbit to
fix one, when all you are doing is swapping parts, can't be any harder
than some of the repairs I've done.




I would.

It'd be a unique (and free) experience to get into space, do space
walks, and such.




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Old January 26th 05, 06:31 AM
Jorge R. Frank
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PagCal wrote in
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Greg D. Moore (Strider) wrote:
"PagCal" wrote in message
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They say the repair mission would be too dangerous.

But, have they asked Americans if any one would volunteer?



No offense, why ask untrained people when the trained people (i.e.
astronauts) have already said they'd fly a repair mission?


The administration, and therefore NASA, has said they didn't want to
fly the mission because it was too dangerous - that, because of the
orbit of the telescope, there's only one way back.

So, I'd like to relieve them of this burden. I'll be glad to take the
risk.


So would a bunch of professional astronauts. It doesn't matter *who's*
willing to take the risk of flying; if NASA management is not willing to
sign off on letting you fly that shuttle, you're not going to fly, period.

As for training, I'll volunteer for it as well. It wouldn't cost them
a dime for my salary.


It will cost NASA a pretty penny for all the instructors who will train
you. Or are you going to pay their salaries, also?

Do I need more credentials than I'm a physicist, an aircraft pilot,
AND, I used to travel around the world fixing computers. Flying into
orbit to fix one, when all you are doing is swapping parts, can't be
any harder than some of the repairs I've done.


The repair itself isn't the sticking point.

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Old January 26th 05, 02:10 PM
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Thinking about that, might it be viable to put a telescope on an
Antarctic mountain? It would be much cheaper than Hubble, would be able
to stare for a long time, would have excellent atmospheric conditions,
and most of the time would be remotely operated. True it wouldn't see
UV.

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Old January 26th 05, 02:13 PM
Paul F. Dietz
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Alex Terrell wrote:
Thinking about that, might it be viable to put a telescope on an
Antarctic mountain? It would be much cheaper than Hubble, would be able
to stare for a long time, would have excellent atmospheric conditions,
and most of the time would be remotely operated. True it wouldn't see
UV.


There already are remotely operated scopes of various kinds
around the South Pole (and not just optical -- very short wavelength radio
telescopes as well, taking advantage of the very dry atmosphere.)

Paul

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Old January 26th 05, 03:18 PM
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On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 01:08:49 -0500, in a place far, far away, PagCal
made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way
as to indicate that:

But, have they asked Americans if any one would volunteer?



No offense, why ask untrained people when the trained people (i.e.
astronauts) have already said they'd fly a repair mission?


The administration, and therefore NASA, has said they didn't want to fly
the mission because it was too dangerous - that, because of the orbit of
the telescope, there's only one way back.

So, I'd like to relieve them of this burden. I'll be glad to take the risk.


But it's pointless to volunteer, since that's not the problem. They
don't need you to take the risk, since there are plenty of
already-trained astronauts willing to do so. They don't lack people
willing to take the risk--they lack the willingness to risk people at
all.
 




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