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Hoagland debunked, Creationism stomped, we're on a roll!- FINAL post from me on this topic
On Wed, 7 Apr 2004 2:53:25 -0500, AJ Sutters wrote
(in message k.net): From: "AJ Sutters" Newsgroups: sci.astro.amateur "Harry F. Leopold" wrote in message Catholics don't use the King James Bible, and in the US Catholics out-number any other sect. So I guess you had better get used to using the New Jerusalem Bible. I am pretty sure that most Baptists aren't going to like that, nor will the rest of the Protestants. Too bad, but we have your above reasoning to go by. I expect this may tend to annoy some, you might want to get rid of your phone and computer before you get buried in hate-mail and calls. In case you haven't noticed, I am talking hypothetical here... how I *might* do it. You are the one making it an "absolute". BTW, what ever happend to freedom of speech, Harry? You do have freedom of speech, the government, however, does not have the freedom to try to force religion on anyone. Yeah, just use it, don't mention it. Seems a bit sneaky to me, sort of a way to sneak religion into the science class without admitting to it. Well, like I said in a previous post, if the teaching were to offend some, then pull your kid out of class. It's been done before, plenty of times. No! If you don't like having science taught in science classes, you are perfectly free to pull your child out of the public school and put that child in a religious school, or teach your child at home. Seems you are keeping things so general that you might as well use my previously mentioned suggestion "Some folks believe that god, or the gods, created the universe, please speak to the preacher of your choice to find out the specifics for your sect." Very general, no specifics, not religion, and it does not in anyway put down any persons beliefs, in fact it allows the person, or their parents to take care of that part quite easily, at home, at church or bible-school, as the parents feel best. Well, should we also tell girls who wear makeup to stay home because it might offend some? Someone who slips out an obscenity banned for years? What about those kids offended by the teaching of evolution? Think it hasn't happened, think again. Illogical. You seem to think that it is the chance of offending someone that is the point, it isn't. It is that law that government is not in the religion teaching business. If the child, or its parents are offended by evolution being taught in science class, too bad. Evolution is science, religion is not. If you want your child to be ignorant of science, fine, that is your business, don't send them to the public school. (By the way, I went through Catholic school for the first 4 years of my education, not public school because my parents wanted me to be, in their opinion, properly taught.) So 10%, at minimum, of the population gets screwed over, the non-believers. As is usual. Well, the current "leader's" dad did say that non-believers should not be considered citizens of the US. Sonny's opinion seems to be the same. Well.... you said it, I didn't. I'm not the one who decided to make this into absolutes. The only "absolutes" being thrown around here is that government is not in the religion-teaching business, creationism is religion, not science, therefore creationism belongs in the church/home/church school, not the public school science class. If you wish that your child remains ignorant of actual scienc, fine, teach that child elsewhere. (Too bad though, with no knowledge of basic science I doubt that child will even be able to get a job as a burger-flipper, got to know at least a little about germs and how to control them to be a burger-flipper.) But I do, after all my own state school board tried this crap on Kansas a few years ago, and in this mostly Republician state we voters voted all those up for reelection out of office in the very next election, in this next election the last of the idiots are likely to have a hard time getting elected as dog-catcher. You have two options as I see it: 1) run for office yourself and change it or 2) leave your state and move into another one, or even another country. AJ No, I have the third option, demand that my government follow its' own laws and stay out of the religion-teaching business and leave the decision about teaching religion to the individual parents of those children. -- Harry F. Leopold aa #2076 AA/Vet #4 The Prints of Darkness (remove gene to email) "Nothing can stand up to atheistic critical examination. You guys are the proctologists of Religion." - angelicusrex |
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Hoagland debunked, Creationism stomped, we're on a roll!- FINAL post from me on this topic
"Harry F. Leopold" wrote in message
. cox.net... You have two options as I see it: 1) run for office yourself and change it or 2) leave your state and move into another one, or even another country. AJ This is the logical fallacy of "false dilemma." This is not an "either/or" choice. There are MANY alternatives. If you're going to argue, at least play by the rules. No, I have the third option, demand that my government follow its' own laws and stay out of the religion-teaching business and leave the decision about teaching religion to the individual parents of those children. -- Harry F. Leopold |
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Hoagland debunked, Creationism stomped, we're on a roll!- FINAL post from me on this topic
"Harry F. Leopold" wrote in message
. cox.net... You have two options as I see it: 1) run for office yourself and change it or 2) leave your state and move into another one, or even another country. AJ This is the logical fallacy of "false dilemma." This is not an "either/or" choice. There are MANY alternatives. If you're going to argue, at least play by the rules. No, I have the third option, demand that my government follow its' own laws and stay out of the religion-teaching business and leave the decision about teaching religion to the individual parents of those children. -- Harry F. Leopold |
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