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Old November 9th 12, 08:38 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.astronomy,sci.astro
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On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 09:06:42 -0800 (PST), mpc755
wrote:

On Nov 9, 11:07*am, Painius wrote:

It seems very likely to me that space and dark matter are one and the
same.


Which means what is postulated as dark matter is aether. Which means
aether has mass. Which means aether physically occupies three
dimensional space. Which means aether is physically displaced by
matter. Which means displaced aether pushes back and exerts inward
pressure toward matter. Which means displaced aether pushing back and
exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.



That all sounds pretty true, if non-mainstream. My main question
would concern the *pressure* required behind what you call the
"aether". There would have to be some kind of power source that
pushes the aether into matter to cause gravitation.

Once more - you stated...

Which means displaced aether pushes back and exerts inward
pressure toward matter. Which means displaced aether pushing back and
exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.


What is the source of the pressure that is exerted on the displaced
aether that causes it to exert inward pressure toward matter?


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Old November 9th 12, 08:44 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.astronomy,sci.astro
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On Nov 9, 3:38*pm, Painius wrote:
On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 09:06:42 -0800 (PST), mpc755
wrote:

On Nov 9, 11:07 am, Painius wrote:


It seems very likely to me that space and dark matter are one and the
same.


Which means what is postulated as dark matter is aether. Which means
aether has mass. Which means aether physically occupies three
dimensional space. Which means aether is physically displaced by
matter. Which means displaced aether pushes back and exerts inward
pressure toward matter. Which means displaced aether pushing back and
exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.


That all sounds pretty true, if non-mainstream. *My main question
would concern the *pressure* required behind what you call the
"aether". *There would have to be some kind of power source that
pushes the aether into matter to cause gravitation.

Once more - you stated...

Which means displaced aether pushes back and exerts inward
pressure toward matter. Which means displaced aether pushing back and
exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.


What is the source of the pressure that is exerted on the displaced
aether that causes it to exert inward pressure toward matter?

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
"To live a creative life, you must lose your fear of being wrong."


Aether exists where particles of matter do not. Where particles of
matter exist the aether is displaced.
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Old November 9th 12, 08:52 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.astronomy,sci.astro
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On Nov 9, 12:44*pm, mpc755 wrote:
On Nov 9, 3:38*pm, Painius wrote:









On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 09:06:42 -0800 (PST), mpc755
wrote:


On Nov 9, 11:07 am, Painius wrote:


It seems very likely to me that space and dark matter are one and the
same.


Which means what is postulated as dark matter is aether. Which means
aether has mass. Which means aether physically occupies three
dimensional space. Which means aether is physically displaced by
matter. Which means displaced aether pushes back and exerts inward
pressure toward matter. Which means displaced aether pushing back and
exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.


That all sounds pretty true, if non-mainstream. *My main question
would concern the *pressure* required behind what you call the
"aether". *There would have to be some kind of power source that
pushes the aether into matter to cause gravitation.


Once more - you stated...


Which means displaced aether pushes back and exerts inward
pressure toward matter. Which means displaced aether pushing back and
exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.


What is the source of the pressure that is exerted on the displaced
aether that causes it to exert inward pressure toward matter?


--
Indelibly yours,
Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
"To live a creative life, you must lose your fear of being wrong."


Aether exists where particles of matter do not. Where particles of
matter exist the aether is displaced.


Sort of matter/antimatter, except without any bad reactions taking
place?
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Old November 9th 12, 08:57 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.astronomy,sci.astro
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On Nov 9, 3:52*pm, Brad Guth wrote:
On Nov 9, 12:44*pm, mpc755 wrote:









On Nov 9, 3:38*pm, Painius wrote:


On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 09:06:42 -0800 (PST), mpc755
wrote:


On Nov 9, 11:07 am, Painius wrote:


It seems very likely to me that space and dark matter are one and the
same.


Which means what is postulated as dark matter is aether. Which means
aether has mass. Which means aether physically occupies three
dimensional space. Which means aether is physically displaced by
matter. Which means displaced aether pushes back and exerts inward
pressure toward matter. Which means displaced aether pushing back and
exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.


That all sounds pretty true, if non-mainstream. *My main question
would concern the *pressure* required behind what you call the
"aether". *There would have to be some kind of power source that
pushes the aether into matter to cause gravitation.


Once more - you stated...


Which means displaced aether pushes back and exerts inward
pressure toward matter. Which means displaced aether pushing back and
exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.


What is the source of the pressure that is exerted on the displaced
aether that causes it to exert inward pressure toward matter?


--
Indelibly yours,
Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
"To live a creative life, you must lose your fear of being wrong."


Aether exists where particles of matter do not. Where particles of
matter exist the aether is displaced.


Sort of matter/antimatter, except without any bad reactions taking
place?


I see anti-matter as matter with opposite spin. This is different.

The aether is, or behaves similar to a supersolid. Think of the
bowling alley filled with a supersolid. As you roll the ball toward
the pins the bowling ball displaces the supersolid. The supersolid
displaces the bowling ball as the supersolid displaces back. This all
occurs within the confines of the bowling alley. Consider the Universe
to be a very large bowling alley where aether exists everywhere
particles of matter do not.
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Old November 9th 12, 09:42 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.astronomy,sci.astro
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On Nov 9, 12:57*pm, mpc755 wrote:
On Nov 9, 3:52*pm, Brad Guth wrote:









On Nov 9, 12:44*pm, mpc755 wrote:


On Nov 9, 3:38*pm, Painius wrote:


On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 09:06:42 -0800 (PST), mpc755
wrote:


On Nov 9, 11:07 am, Painius wrote:


It seems very likely to me that space and dark matter are one and the
same.


Which means what is postulated as dark matter is aether. Which means
aether has mass. Which means aether physically occupies three
dimensional space. Which means aether is physically displaced by
matter. Which means displaced aether pushes back and exerts inward
pressure toward matter. Which means displaced aether pushing back and
exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.


That all sounds pretty true, if non-mainstream. *My main question
would concern the *pressure* required behind what you call the
"aether". *There would have to be some kind of power source that
pushes the aether into matter to cause gravitation.


Once more - you stated...


Which means displaced aether pushes back and exerts inward
pressure toward matter. Which means displaced aether pushing back and
exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.


What is the source of the pressure that is exerted on the displaced
aether that causes it to exert inward pressure toward matter?


--
Indelibly yours,
Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
"To live a creative life, you must lose your fear of being wrong."


Aether exists where particles of matter do not. Where particles of
matter exist the aether is displaced.


Sort of matter/antimatter, except without any bad reactions taking
place?


I see anti-matter as matter with opposite spin. This is different.

The aether is, or behaves similar to a supersolid. Think of the
bowling alley filled with a supersolid. As you roll the ball toward
the pins the bowling ball displaces the supersolid. The supersolid
displaces the bowling ball as the supersolid displaces back. This all
occurs within the confines of the bowling alley. Consider the Universe
to be a very large bowling alley where aether exists everywhere
particles of matter do not.


That's all fine and dandy.

So, what's your best swag as to how much the all-inclusive universe
(including its aether) weighs?

In other words, what is the average IGM mass of a m3 worth of aether?
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Old November 9th 12, 10:10 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.astronomy,sci.astro
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On 11/9/2012 3:57 PM, mpc755 wrote:

Aether exists where particles of matter do not. Where particles of
matter exist the aether is displaced.


Sort of matter/antimatter, except without any bad reactions taking
place?


I see anti-matter as matter with opposite spin. This is different.

The aether is, or behaves similar to a supersolid. Think of the
bowling alley filled with a supersolid. As you roll the ball toward
the pins the bowling ball displaces the supersolid. The supersolid
displaces the bowling ball as the supersolid displaces back. This all
occurs within the confines of the bowling alley. Consider the Universe
to be a very large bowling alley where aether exists everywhere
particles of matter do not.



I have a very important question: Ten pin or candle pin?











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Old November 9th 12, 10:19 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.astronomy,sci.astro
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On Nov 9, 4:42*pm, Brad Guth wrote:
On Nov 9, 12:57*pm, mpc755 wrote:









On Nov 9, 3:52*pm, Brad Guth wrote:


On Nov 9, 12:44*pm, mpc755 wrote:


On Nov 9, 3:38*pm, Painius wrote:


On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 09:06:42 -0800 (PST), mpc755
wrote:


On Nov 9, 11:07 am, Painius wrote:


It seems very likely to me that space and dark matter are one and the
same.


Which means what is postulated as dark matter is aether. Which means
aether has mass. Which means aether physically occupies three
dimensional space. Which means aether is physically displaced by
matter. Which means displaced aether pushes back and exerts inward
pressure toward matter. Which means displaced aether pushing back and
exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.


That all sounds pretty true, if non-mainstream. *My main question
would concern the *pressure* required behind what you call the
"aether". *There would have to be some kind of power source that
pushes the aether into matter to cause gravitation.


Once more - you stated...


Which means displaced aether pushes back and exerts inward
pressure toward matter. Which means displaced aether pushing back and
exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.


What is the source of the pressure that is exerted on the displaced
aether that causes it to exert inward pressure toward matter?


--
Indelibly yours,
Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
"To live a creative life, you must lose your fear of being wrong."


Aether exists where particles of matter do not. Where particles of
matter exist the aether is displaced.


Sort of matter/antimatter, except without any bad reactions taking
place?


I see anti-matter as matter with opposite spin. This is different.


The aether is, or behaves similar to a supersolid. Think of the
bowling alley filled with a supersolid. As you roll the ball toward
the pins the bowling ball displaces the supersolid. The supersolid
displaces the bowling ball as the supersolid displaces back. This all
occurs within the confines of the bowling alley. Consider the Universe
to be a very large bowling alley where aether exists everywhere
particles of matter do not.


That's all fine and dandy.

So, what's your best swag as to how much the all-inclusive universe
(including its aether) weighs?

In other words, what is the average IGM mass of a m3 worth of aether?


http://www.space.com/11642-dark-matt...se-panek..html

"All the stars, planets and galaxies that can be seen today make up
just 4 percent of the universe. The other 96 percent is made of stuff
astronomers can't see, detect or even comprehend."

Dark matter is aether. Dark energy is aether emitted into the
Universal jet. Aether makes up 96% of the Universe.
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Old November 9th 12, 10:33 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.astronomy,sci.astro
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On 11/9/2012 5:19 PM, mpc755 wrote:

"All the stars, planets and galaxies that can be seen today make up
just 4 percent of the universe. The other 96 percent is made of stuff
astronomers can't see, detect or even comprehend."

Dark matter is aether. Dark energy is aether emitted into the
Universal jet. Aether makes up 96% of the Universe.



Absolute and utter hogwash.














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Old November 9th 12, 10:33 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.astronomy,sci.astro
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On Nov 9, 5:10*pm, HVAC wrote:
On 11/9/2012 3:57 PM, mpc755 wrote:











Aether exists where particles of matter do not. Where particles of
matter exist the aether is displaced.


Sort of matter/antimatter, except without any bad reactions taking
place?


I see anti-matter as matter with opposite spin. This is different.


The aether is, or behaves similar to a supersolid. Think of the
bowling alley filled with a supersolid. As you roll the ball toward
the pins the bowling ball displaces the supersolid. The supersolid
displaces the bowling ball as the supersolid displaces back. This all
occurs within the confines of the bowling alley. Consider the Universe
to be a very large bowling alley where aether exists everywhere
particles of matter do not.


I have a very important question: *Ten pin or candle pin?



Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?

You are in a bowling alley filled with a supersolid. You roll the
bowling ball toward the pins.

You are able to understand the bowling ball displaces the supersolid,
correct?

You are able to understand there is no loss of energy between the
bowling ball and the supersolid because that's what supersolid means,
correct?

You are able to understand the bowling ball will roll forever through
the supersolid, correct?

The interaction of an object and a supersolid does not mean no
interaction. It means no loss of energy in the interaction. The
bowling ball requires energy to displace the supersolid. The
supersolid returns to the bowling ball the same amount of energy as
the supersolid 'displaces back'.

Q. Is the bowling ball displacing the supersolid or is the supersolid
displacing the bowling ball?
A. Both occur simultaneously with equal force.
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Old November 9th 12, 10:34 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.astronomy,sci.astro
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On Nov 9, 5:33*pm, HVAC wrote:
On 11/9/2012 5:19 PM, mpc755 wrote:



"All the stars, planets and galaxies that can be seen today make up
just 4 percent of the universe. The other 96 percent is made of stuff
astronomers can't see, detect or even comprehend."


Dark matter is aether. Dark energy is aether emitted into the
Universal jet. Aether makes up 96% of the Universe.


Absolute and utter hogwash.


Are you able to understand objects interact with a supersolid?

You are in a bowling alley filled with a supersolid. You roll the
bowling ball toward the pins.

You are able to understand the bowling ball displaces the supersolid,
correct?

You are able to understand there is no loss of energy between the
bowling ball and the supersolid because that's what supersolid means,
correct?

You are able to understand the bowling ball will roll forever through
the supersolid, correct?

The interaction of an object and a supersolid does not mean no
interaction. It means no loss of energy in the interaction. The
bowling ball requires energy to displace the supersolid. The
supersolid returns to the bowling ball the same amount of energy as
the supersolid 'displaces back'.

Q. Is the bowling ball displacing the supersolid or is the supersolid
displacing the bowling ball?
A. Both occur simultaneously with equal force.
 




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