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Old July 11th 10, 09:53 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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"Using super-high pressures similar to those found
deep in the Earth or on a giant planet, Washington State
University researchers have created a compact, never-
before-seen material capable of storing vast amounts of
energy.

"If you think about it, it is the most condensed form of
energy storage outside of nuclear energy," says Choong-
Shik Yoo, a WSU chemistry professor and lead author of
results published in the journal Nature Chemistry.

The research is basic science, but Yoo says it shows it is
possible to store mechanical energy into the chemical
energy of a material with such strong chemical bonds.
Possible future applications include creating a new class
of energetic materials or fuels, an energy storage device,
super-oxidizing materials for destroying chemical and
biological agents, and high-temperature superconductors."

See:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0704162218.htm


Is there potential here for a more powerful rocket fuel?

How else could something like this benefit space travel?
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Old July 12th 10, 12:30 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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On Jul 11, 1:53*pm, wrote:
"Using super-high pressures similar to those found
deep in the Earth or on a giant planet, Washington State
University researchers have created a compact, never-
before-seen material capable of storing vast amounts of
energy.

"If you think about it, it is the most condensed form of
energy storage outside of nuclear energy," says Choong-
Shik Yoo, a WSU chemistry professor and lead author of
results published in the journal Nature Chemistry.

The research is basic science, but Yoo says it shows it is
possible to store mechanical energy into the chemical
energy of a material with such strong chemical bonds.
Possible future applications include creating a new class
of energetic materials or fuels, an energy storage device,
super-oxidizing materials for destroying chemical and
biological agents, and high-temperature superconductors."

See:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0704162218.htm

Is there potential here for a more powerful rocket fuel?

How else could something like this benefit space travel?


It's good to know that some research is headed us in the right
direction.

130 kq/cm3 of High-Density Deuterium is also a good thing, as is the
failsafe thorium reactor.

A sub-critical thorium reactor:
http://energy2050.se/uploads/files/rubbia2.pdf

~ BG

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Old July 12th 10, 01:57 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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On 7/11/2010 1:40 PM, Damon Hill wrote:
Mass production of super-compressed fuel would be extremely
energy-intensive and generally challenging, to say the least.
The reported results are interesting, but practical applications
seem a very long ways off.


I know...Superballs that bounce higher than they fall each time, until
they finally fly into space.
Frisbees that pick the dog up and fly it around when they grab it in
their mouths.

Pat
(now working for Wham-O)
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Old July 12th 10, 04:22 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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Default Super-High Pressures Used to Create Super Battery: 'Most CondensedForm of Energy Storage Outside of Nuclear Energy'

Pat Flannery wrote:
I know...Superballs that bounce higher than they fall each time, until
they finally fly into space.
Frisbees that pick the dog up and fly it around when they grab it in
their mouths.

Pat
(now working for Wham-O)


What a load of Flubber... :-)

Now if you could create a synthetic body fat that acted like flubber
when exposed to Bee Gees music, now you have something you can take
to market.

Call it flabber...

;-)
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Old July 12th 10, 09:45 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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Default Super-High Pressures Used to Create Super Battery: 'Most CondensedForm of Energy Storage Outside of Nuclear Energy'

On 7/11/2010 7:22 PM, David Spain wrote:
Pat Flannery wrote:
I know...Superballs that bounce higher than they fall each time, until
they finally fly into space.
Frisbees that pick the dog up and fly it around when they grab it in
their mouths.

Pat
(now working for Wham-O)


What a load of Flubber... :-)

Now if you could create a synthetic body fat that acted like flubber
when exposed to Bee Gees music, now you have something you can take
to market.

Call it flabber...


Just like Suzie Chapstick, I could be Patrick Flabbery. :-D
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Old July 12th 10, 02:39 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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Default Super-High Pressures Used to Create Super Battery: 'Most CondensedForm of Energy Storage Outside of Nuclear Energy'

Pat Flannery wrote:
On 7/11/2010 7:22 PM, David Spain wrote:
Pat Flannery wrote:
I know...Superballs that bounce higher than they fall each time, until
they finally fly into space.
Frisbees that pick the dog up and fly it around when they grab it in
their mouths.

Pat
(now working for Wham-O)


What a load of Flubber... :-)

Now if you could create a synthetic body fat that acted like flubber
when exposed to Bee Gees music, now you have something you can take
to market.

Call it flabber...


Just like Suzie Chapstick, I could be Patrick Flabbery. :-D


Couple that with a diet of Coke, broccoli and beans and you would have
the ultimate replacement for the MMU (manned maneuvering unit).

Call it gas assisted flabber transit, or if you prefer, flabbergasted.

;-)

C'mon everyone, admit it, you could see this coming...

Dave
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Old July 12th 10, 08:20 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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Default Super-High Pressures Used to Create Super Battery: 'Most Condensed Form of Energy Storage Outside of Nuclear Energy'

David Spain wrote in
:

Pat Flannery wrote:
On 7/11/2010 7:22 PM, David Spain wrote:
Pat Flannery wrote:
I know...Superballs that bounce higher than they fall each time, until
they finally fly into space.
Frisbees that pick the dog up and fly it around when they grab it in
their mouths.

Pat
(now working for Wham-O)

What a load of Flubber... :-)

Now if you could create a synthetic body fat that acted like flubber
when exposed to Bee Gees music, now you have something you can take
to market.

Call it flabber...


Just like Suzie Chapstick, I could be Patrick Flabbery. :-D


Couple that with a diet of Coke, broccoli and beans and you would have
the ultimate replacement for the MMU (manned maneuvering unit).

Call it gas assisted flabber transit, or if you prefer, flabbergasted.

;-)

C'mon everyone, admit it, you could see this coming...


If I didn't have hayfever, I coulda smelled it coming, from upwind.

--Damon

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Old July 13th 10, 02:55 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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Default Super-High Pressures Used to Create Super Battery: 'MostCondensed Form of Energy Storage Outside of Nuclear Energy'

On Jul 11, 6:53*pm, Pat Flannery wrote:

One thing is for sure; if you could make quantities of this material
cheaply there are bound to be a lot of uses for something like that.


I presume the most obvious intended use would be, finally, practical
batteries for an electric car that could be survivable on the same
roads with the armored gas guzzlers.

When lead-acid batteries would do just fine for electric cars if cars
had to be built more lightly, and travel more slowly. Evidently,
global warming is _not_ considered an urgent problem, despite what
anyone says.

John Savard
 




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