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Old May 19th 04, 09:04 AM
Frank Scrooby
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Hi all

Is this significant at all? So far only the BBC is reporting it (as far as I
can see).
Amateur rocket fired into space

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3724841.stm

Quote from BBC website:

" A 14-second burn allowed the rocket to reach an altitude of more than
100km - the official boundary of space - in about three minutes. It
reportedly spent several minutes in space before beginning its descent.
The rocket and the payload came down on separate parachutes. "

Anyone?

Regards

Frank Scrooby




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Old May 19th 04, 09:45 AM
Derek Lyons
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"Frank Scrooby" wrote:
Hi all
Is this significant at all?


Not really.

D.
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Old May 19th 04, 01:07 PM
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"Derek Lyons" wrote in message
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"Frank Scrooby" wrote:
Hi all
Is this significant at all?


Not really.



well, how many backyard rocket scientists have ever duplicated the feat?

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Old May 19th 04, 05:02 PM
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"Terrell Miller" wrote:

"Derek Lyons" wrote in message
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"Frank Scrooby" wrote:
Hi all
Is this significant at all?


Not really.


well, how many backyard rocket scientists have ever duplicated the feat?


It doesn't matter how many have or haven't. One, ten, or ten thousand,
it's still not significant.

D.
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Old May 19th 04, 08:08 PM
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Terrell Miller wrote:
"Derek Lyons" wrote in message
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"Frank Scrooby" wrote:
Hi all
Is this significant at all?


Not really.



well, how many backyard rocket scientists have ever duplicated the feat?


Because a human has run a 4 minute mile, and it was an achievment, that does
not mean we are well on the way to having one run a 10 second mile.
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Old May 19th 04, 08:48 PM
Nicholas Dinh
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This only shows that it is very possible the commercial space industry
is gaining on government funded space research. Look at the x-Prize.
Phenomenal achievements here.

True it is just one small feat but shows that anyone can reach for the
stars.



Terrell Miller wrote:
"Derek Lyons" wrote in message
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"Frank Scrooby" wrote:

Hi all
Is this significant at all?


Not really.




well, how many backyard rocket scientists have ever duplicated the feat?


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Old May 20th 04, 07:15 PM
Derek Lyons
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Nicholas Dinh wrote:
This only shows that it is very possible the commercial space industry
is gaining on government funded space research.


Maybe on your planet. On *this* planet (Earth) the commercial space
industry has been building and flying high altitude sounding rockets
for decades.

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Old May 20th 04, 08:05 PM
Nicholas Dinh
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??? Who are you talking about? Loral, Lockheed, TRW, Boeing? They are
all working under government contracts.

OK, to make you understand, we are not interested in government
achievements. We all know what they are. But for a group of civilians
to put a rocket into space, that is something. Can you do it Mr. High
Almighty?

Nick

BTW - Go outside and waste some oxygen on yourself and come back to this
alias when you can provide something intelligent and constructive.



Derek Lyons wrote:
Nicholas Dinh wrote:

This only shows that it is very possible the commercial space industry
is gaining on government funded space research.



Maybe on your planet. On *this* planet (Earth) the commercial space
industry has been building and flying high altitude sounding rockets
for decades.

D.


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Old May 25th 04, 07:18 PM
t sr
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Is this significant at all?

Not really.


well, how many backyard rocket scientists have ever duplicated the feat?


This is significant. Theoretically its very easy to design and make a
solid rocket engine in your grarage. It doesn't cost much either.

But practically, it's another matter.

Sure, the payload here achived less than ten percent of the energy
needed for orbit. But with engine design and manufacturing techniques
worked out, half of the difficulty of reaching orbit is overcome.

Building on this for an amature satallite launch system now requires
three more stages and better guidance.
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Old May 26th 04, 06:41 PM
Ian Stirling
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t sr wrote:
Is this significant at all?

Not really.


well, how many backyard rocket scientists have ever duplicated the feat?


This is significant. Theoretically its very easy to design and make a
solid rocket engine in your grarage. It doesn't cost much either.

But practically, it's another matter.

Sure, the payload here achived less than ten percent of the energy
needed for orbit. But with engine design and manufacturing techniques
worked out, half of the difficulty of reaching orbit is overcome.


Under half of one percent of that needed.
(currently designing regeneratively cooled bipropellant engines, and
star-trackers for a 4-stage 1 kilo launcher to be built in the garage)


Building on this for an amature satallite launch system now requires
three more stages and better guidance.

 




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