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Off-World Metallicity and The Next Great Super-Duper Thing / Brad Guth



 
 
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Old April 26th 13, 10:52 PM posted to alt.astronomy,sci.space.policy,sci.space.history,alt.news-media,alt.journalism
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Default Off-World Metallicity and The Next Great Super-Duper Thing / Brad Guth

Metallicity isn’t just about the innards of a given star, because
percentage-wise those stars of extremely ionized plasma actually have
very little metal to spare until the extreme fusion process of their
helium flashover creates a mostly carbon white dwarf or denser neutron
remainder. However, planets and moons are not the least bit
metallicity deficient, because hardly if any of their metallicity mass
is plasma or much less fusion worthy.

As recently reported, the core of mother Earth is roughly a thousand
degrees hotter than previously thought, and not that anyone here gives
a hoot or cares a tinkers damn about the significance of our core
having more thorium and uranium than previously thought, but at least
this revised core assessment means we should have more of a helium
cache and resupply capability than previously thought, and the way
things are going, we’ll most likely need every bit of it.

All things considered, it’s all perfectly relative (as George Carlin
said; Earth will be here long after we’re gone), because when
necessary we can always get lots of future helium and even extract He3
(3He) from our moon, which might some day become viable considering
the ongoing depletion and the artificially inflated cost of
terrestrial helium as literally going through the roof. Of course any
off-world resource of rare elements like helium is going to be spendy
as hell, but if there’s an insufficient terrestrial resupply of such
essential elements that’s in greater demand than ever, is what should
make its future cost a non-issue, just like the mutually perpetrated
cold-war era and subsequent proxy wars plus whatever consequence of
our military industrial complex and various Karma payback revenge
apparently hasn’t been an issue of cost for most of us, not even at
having cost this world trillions per year and having terminated
millions of lives, in great part because we simply could not manage to
otherwise deal with upgrading common infrastructure issues and sustain
our spendy global domination plus cloak and dagger wars at the same
time. So obviously whatever cost is not a factor once having compared
this to the ongoing cost of what our mainstream status-quo seem to
accept and even promote whenever ethnicity and the ever increasing
wealth and authority disparity seems a whole lot more important, at
least if you happen to be a Rothschild oligarch that has never worked
at any honest job in their life.

The atmospheric escape of helium simply isn’t limited as to the
mainstream reported and K-12 textbook published notion of 50 grams/
sec, at least not as of the last few hundred years of us exploiting
every accessible pool or deposit of hydrocarbons which always includes
an unbound component of helium provided from a million holes as
having been punched into Earth, along with nature keeping up with its
fair share of sustaining the 5.24 ppm saturation which also doesn’t
stick around for long after the source is either depleted, plugged or
especially once tapped out, because the innards of Earth is supposedly
limited as to creating just 3000 tonnes/year, even though its worth
could now be revised upwards to suggest as much as 30,000 tonnes/year,
which still may not be sufficient as long as there’s no apparent
recycling efforts and the uneducated public is willing to pay and/or
getting taxed upon science and technology having to pay more than
$1000/m3 or $176/oz.

It has been well documented that some natural geothermal vents in
India have been objectively quantified as giving off 20% helium (1e25
atoms of 2He/m3 or at least 1e24 atoms if all other vapors are mostly
those of those heavier than nitrogen), plus we always have more than a
dozen active volcanic eruptions, and per se none of that considerable
volume of helium sticks around but for a few seconds per vertical
meter after each geothermal vent/belch because its vertical migration
has been objectively quantified. Otherwise most natural ground
venting of helium is perhaps worth something less than 1 ppm/sec.
However, even if the all-inclusive average leakage of all things
natural plus artificially caused were limited as to only 10% of that
by providing only 0.1 ppm/m2/sec, is still a global surface exit
volume of 5.1e13 ppm/m3/sec, and don't ever forget there's roughly
5e25 atoms/m3 of standard surface air which makes that conservative .1
ppm/m3/sec into being worth 5e18 atoms of helium escapement per each
and every surface cubic meter of surface atmosphere.

5e18 x 5.1e14 x 1.67e-27 = 42.6e5 kg/sec.

As is each cubic meter of surface atmosphere supposedly contains 5.24
ppm He, which represents 2.67e20 atoms of helium/m3 that has to be
continually replenished, because of the extremely low mass or specific
gravity of helium which never binds with anything as it unavoidably
floats and drifts upwards because of its minimal molecular mass, is
what also makes it a rather buoyant or lofty element that’s never
going to hold whatever vertical position upon release nor much less
migrate itself downward on its own, as others having specified that
our planet would need roughly 7 times as much gravity in order to hold
onto its helium.

Even if this ongoing molecular loss of 2He were given 1000 seconds in
order to escape each vertical cubic meter, is going to represent that .
1 ppm/m3 of natural plus artificial surface escapement is going to
give us an all-inclusive global loss of 4.26e3 kg/sec(4.26 tonnes/
sec), which seems a far cry greater rate of loss than any wussy 50
grams/sec as specified by our mainstream status-quo science peers
that’s always getting their purely subjective estimate of global
helium loss published just about everywhere.

I’ve certainly made my fair share of math mistakes in the past, and
perhaps this is yet another mistaken conclusion, but I honestly don’t
think so. If I’m way the hell off base, then why don’t our Big Energy
cartels that most of you have supported and even worship, as
supposedly knowing everything there is to know, should bother to tell
us otherwise?

Since multiple public funded Earth science missions like OCO have been
foiled, perhaps our Big Energy buddies at BP are the ones that should
be telling us exactly how little helium escapes from all of their
hydrocarbon exploitations and refineries, as compared to Jamnagar,
PDVSA, ExxonMobil, Shell or others.

Our planet simply has not been gaining atmospheric mass, even though
humanity has been doing everything possible as to increasing its
saturations of CO2 and NOx in addition to increasing water vapor plus
loads of acidic soot and many other artificial contributions (mostly
of bad or toxic stuff) along with our having been venting hydrogen and
helium as fast as we can manage. Perhaps initially our planet had 100
bar (5.1e20 kg) worth of an atmospheric layer protecting everything,
or nearly a hundred times more atmospheric mass to work with, but
obviously that’s not the case anymore with an atmospheric mass of only
5.1e18 kg (10 tonnes/m2).

Helium escapement (second to the easiest of elements to blow away) is
further increased by way of solar heating and of course getting
constantly excavated away from Earth by the solar wind which includes
some of its own helium (CMEs offering as much as 10% He and the
average solar wind supposedly offers 4%), none of which sticks with
our planet other than temporarily lingering within the exosphere
because, most of the solar wind is fended off by the magnetosphere.

Even our moon can't manage to hold onto its ionized sodium (23 times
heavier than helium), with an exospheric ionized sodium cloud of 9r
and a comet like tail of 900,0000 km, of which Earth passes directly
through every time that moon gets directly aligned between us and our
sun that's typically blowing at 300 km/sec, which can surge to 1000+
km/sec. Anyone care to give us your swag as to how much ionized
sodium/sec is extracted from and leaving our moon?

No doubt there’s another treasure trove of lithium within our moon,
not to mention those heavy elements besides iron and titanium plus
thorium and uranium and perhaps even some cobalt which should help to
explain the gamma our naked moon has to offer. Of course, if there’s
heavy elements would also represent that platinum and gold shouldn’t
be excluded.

There is always some influx of elements, including helium as contained
within the space dust, meteorites and asteroids, but at best it's a
fraction of what vapor tonnage of our terrestrial hydrogen and helium
is being lost to space.

One of the many off-world benefits of TBMs excavating into the thick
paramagnetic basalt and carbonado crust of our moon, will be the
extraction of 2He and 3He in addition to obtaining volumes of good old
O2 and various other elements including a little H2O from vaporizing
its paramagnetic basalt. The hard part of all this has to do with
convincing our terrestrial oligarchs into allowing this future
treasure trove of nearby element extractions to happen, before it’s
too late.

Of course, according to our Georgia Guidestones and if adhering to
their specified manifesto dogma of planet Earth accommodating a
maximum of only 500 million humans, of extremely well educated and
wealthy humans that a great deal of modern technology is capably
taking care of, would pretty much eliminate any need of future off-
world exploitations. No doubt the reason why our FEMA and DHS needed
those extra spare billions of hollow tipped bullets (perhaps by now
we’re talking 15+ bullets for each and every man, woman and child on
Earth, not to mention our combined WMD capability that has gotten
multifold capable of eliminating most every soul on Earth as well as
wiping out most other biodiversity). Gee whiz, what sort of global
Karma could possibly go wrong? (this time)

Naturally, to most that manage to read through this revised topic and
its, our moon has absolutely nothing to do with exploiting the
extremely nearby planet Venus, or so you might think. Unlike your
mainstream cozy box-limited self of keeping everything nicely social/
political and faith-based correct and thereby failsafe, by not
sticking your mostly white and/or rednecks anywhere near the
obfuscation edge of any possible nondisclosures and taboos that would
only get you and your extended family into a whole lot of mainstream
status-quo trouble, is pretty much why we’re in the doom and gloom
sort of mess we’re in.

Terraforming the innards of our moon is just another logical
steppingstone, as providing a terrific outpost/gateway and very safe
oasis capable of housing billions of us, as well as for utilizing its
L1 and L2 plus eventually as being relocated within Earth L1 in order
to directly benefit everyone else stuck on Earth, including salvaging
most of the global environment that essentially needs an opportunity
to cool off before it’s too late. There’s actually 10+ good reasons
for every bad notion you can think of, but when mainstream naysayism,
science obfuscation and their denial of being in denial has closed all
the doors, is what makes all of this a whole lot harder than it needs
to be.

We could also learn a lot about atmospheric and geological physics
from exploiting the extremely nearby planet Venus that has lots of
just about everything to offer, including at least one set of weird
geometrical formations offering a very rational infrastructure
community like setting. But of course our NASA and their associates
of closely protected insiders are having none of this, no matters what
the consequences.

Obviously our resident FUD-masters of Usenet/newsgroups (typically
devout faith-based types, including those of pretend-Atheists that
merely act/react as though Semitic) adamantly oppose any such usage or
exploitation of our moon, regardless of the consequences and/or Karma
of just sitting on our butts and doing nothing positive nor
constructive. In fact, it seems only the most faith-based types
object as to any notions of humans ever leaving Earth, and yet they
each want nothing short of global domination in order to prove their
version of everything is all that matters. So, we should only expect
this global situation as going from bad to worse, as long as we allow
only the upper caste of oligarchs that are never elected nor
appointed, to be calling all the shots, as well as otherwise whenever
possible taking all the credits for anything good while in denial
about having anything to do with whatever bad stuff has taken place
because bad things are supposedly never their fault.

Be my guest and apply your very own photographic enlargement software,
as to viewing this one small but rather interesting mountainous area
of Venus, using your independent deductive expertise as to enlarge or
magnify this extensively mountainous terrain of Venus that I’ve
focused upon, really shouldn’t be asking too much. Most of modern
PhotoZoom and numerous other photographic software variations tend to
accomplish this enlargement process automatically (including iPhone
and Safari image zooming), although some extra applied filtering and
thereby image enhancing for dynamic range compensations (aka contrast)
can further improve upon the end result (no direct pixel modifications
should ever be necessary, because it’s all a derivative from the
original Magellan radar imaging of 36 confirming radar scans/pixel,
that can always be 100% verified).

“GuthVenus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in
question:
https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...18595926178146

http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif

https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...8634/BradGuth#
http://translate.google.com/#
Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG, Guth Usenet/”Guth
Venus”, GuthVenus


On Apr 11, 9:43*am, Brad Guth wrote:
On Feb 10, 3:36*pm, Brad Guth wrote:


On Dec 13 2012, 7:43*am, Brad Guth wrote:


Going off-world is at most as close as our moon, although Venus at
only 110 LD(lunar distance) isn't hardly all that much further.


*Thumbnail images of Venus, including mgn_c115s095_1.gif (225 m/
pixel)
*http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/th...umbnails..html
*Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1
*http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/ht...115s095_1.html
*http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif
*“Guth Venus”, at 1:1, then 10x resample/enlargement of the area in
question:
*https://picasaweb.google.com/bradgut...18595926178146
*https://picasaweb.google.com/bradgut...79402364691314


*http://translate.google.com/#
*Brad Guth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,Guth Usenet/”Guth
Venus”,GuthVenus
*“GuthVenus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in
question:
*https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...Guth#slideshow...


Terraforming the moon underground:
It's probably close to averaging -0- F (255 K) at no greater than 10
meters deep, and it shouldn't have any problems reaching 70 F (day or
night) at 100 km deep or possibly as shallow as 10 km. *The R-factor
of lunar regolith (lose basalt rock and loads of crystal dry dust
that’s at minimum 10 meters deep) is none too shabby, and otherwise
the geothermal conductance and/or heat transfer coefficient (aka
geothermal gradient) of its paramagnetic basalt crust of 3.5 g/cm3
density shouldn't be significantly any different than here on Earth,
except that our terrestrial basalt isn't nearly as paramagnetic or
much less offering carbonado, and the core heat of Earth being 7000+ K
as opposed to only 1000 K of our moon. *Supposedly there is only a wee
little bit of lunar granite to deal with, but the samples thus far are
inconsistent in their composition.


A new interpretation is that all-inclusively the geothermal outflux of
Earth (including geothermal vents and volcanic contributions) is
getting rid of roughly 128 mw/m2, whereas our moon is supposedly only
getting rid of as little as 16 mw/m2 (an 8th as much).


*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geothermal_gradient
*“Geothermal gradient is the rate of increasing temperature with
respect to increasing depth in the Earth's interior.”


The "Igneous Petrology" of our moon and Venus should each be
considerably different than Earth.


“The composition of igneous rocks and minerals can be determined via a
variety of methods of varying ease, cost, and complexity. The simplest
method is observation of hand samples with the naked eye and/or with a
hand lens. This can be used to gauge the general mineralogical
composition of the rock, which gives an insight into the composition.”


Unfortunately, the rocks returned from our moon were entirely similar
to those of terrestrial rocks. *Of course there’s all sorts of actual
paramagnetic basalt moon rock to be found on Earth, because there
should be at least a thousand teratonnes of it, whereas naturally most
of which ended up in oceans and otherwise as having meteor and obvious
melt indications that are entirely quite different than local volcanic
spewed basalts.


“A more precise but still relatively inexpensive way to identify
minerals (and thereby the bulk chemical composition of the rock) with
a petrographic microscope. These microscopes have polarizing plates,
filters, and a conoscopic lens that allow the user to measure a large
number of crystallographic properties.”


Contributor “Wretch Fossil” actually has a very good “petrographic
microscope” and multiple resources plus talent of interpreting such to
go along with it. *Sadly this technology and its expertise of
interpreting is being ignored by those of authority that do not want
outsiders having a public say about anything. *So, once again, it
really doesn’t matter whatever level of modern applied technology and
expertise we have to offer, because it’s only going to be topic/author
stalked and systematically trashed by those of Usenet/newsgroup
authority that have multiple mainstream issues at risk.


TBMs cutting their tunnels into the interior of our moon should prove
both interesting and rewarding in terms of extracting rare and
valuable elements, not to mention creating the very cozy and safe
habitat potential that’s opened up for multiple uses. *Unfortunately
this method can not be applied on such a geodynamically active planet
like Venus that has such a thin crust and way more primordial core
energy outflux of perhaps 20.5 w/m2 as contributing way more
geothermal energy than any other planet or moon has to offer, although
older and cooler planets or any number of their moons (except for Io
that’s averaging 2 w/m2) should be somewhat similar to terraforming
the cozy interior of our moon.
*http://www.mps.mpg.de/solar-system-s...etary_interior...
*http://commercialspace.pbworks.com/f/Public+ILN.pdf


*The likely 5e15~1e16 tonnes worth of lose surface rock and dust (plus
accumulated deposits) remaining on the naked surface of our moon (not
including another good portion as having been dislodged and deposited
on Earth) is a direct result of the thousands of significant impacts,
and especially as a result of its South polar crater of 2500 km
diameter.


Liquefied basalt as returning fallout from such truly horrific impacts
that should have extensively solidified and fused upon contact with
the relatively cool basalt surface, as such should have been quite
obvious and highly distinctive if such exposed lunar bedrock samples
had been return to Earth. *Sadly, no such samples or even unique
meteorites ever materialized from our NASA/Apollo era that found our
naked moon as instead so unusually reflective and UV, X-ray and gamma
inert as well as hardly the least bit dusty, and what little crystal
dry dust there was seemed to offer terrific surface tension and
clumping for terrific footing and traction like no place else.


Pay no special attention to those hiding behind curtains (cloaked as
always politically and faith-based correct), because it's their mostly
public-funded and/or faith-based job to topic/author stalk and to
otherwise FUD everything to death. *Hitler had the exact same
“Paperclip” team of ruse-masters and FUD-masters, as professional
media damage-control clowns working and/or manipulating the locals
into a mainstream status-quo mindset, which unfortunately far too many
have bought into instead of taking any logically deductive formulated
stance against their totally bat**** crazy peers.

Of course this mainstream status-quo policy of obfuscation and denial
is what brought us a mutually perpetrated cold-war era and the
negative Karma likes of 911 (make that positive Karma if you are an
oligarch of our military industrial complex), each of which wasted
decades and costing us trillions of our hard earned dollars, as well
as having systematically squandered all sorts of talent, expertise and
resources that we'll never get back, and which force other nations to
follow suit.

Venus is pretty much as hot and nasty as we’ve all been indoctrinated
about. *However, this not necessarily the case of each and every
location, such as mountainous and polar area can be considerably
cooler though still extremely hot by human standards that we’re
accustomed to. *With applied physics and reasonable technology, the
surface of Venus can be dealt with, at least robotically, and
otherwise via composite rigid airships it can be further exploited
while easily protecting the airship crew. *Of course you have to think
both really big and perhaps even small in order to fully appreciate
the potential of what exploiting such a nearby planet has to offer,
because it’s the in-between that’s not easily accomplished if you can
only think of terrestrial methods that get to deal with on Earth.

Our physically dark and naked moon is just another metallicity
treasure trove of valuable resources (including much clean energy),
just sitting out there and causing us mostly grief and otherwise
contributing very little terrestrial benefit, unless added IR, X-rays
and gamma plus loads of tidal surging and increased seismic trauma is
desirable.


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Old May 1st 13, 06:55 PM posted to alt.astronomy,sci.space.policy,sci.space.history,alt.news-media,alt.journalism
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Default Off-World Metallicity and The Next Great Super-Duper Thing / Brad Guth

What elements of increasing rarity and value shouldn't our moon have
to offer?

On Apr 26, 2:52*pm, Brad Guth wrote:
Metallicity isn’t just about the innards of a given star, because
percentage-wise those stars of extremely ionized plasma actually have
very little metal to spare until the extreme fusion process of their
helium flashover creates a mostly carbon white dwarf or denser neutron
remainder. *However, planets and moons are not the least bit
metallicity deficient, because hardly if any of their metallicity mass
is plasma or much less fusion worthy.

As recently reported, the core of mother Earth is roughly a thousand
degrees hotter than previously thought, and not that anyone here gives
a hoot or cares a tinkers damn about the significance of our core
having more thorium and uranium than previously thought, but at least
this revised core assessment means we should have more of a helium
cache and resupply capability than previously thought, and the way
things are going, we’ll most likely need every bit of it.

All things considered, it’s all perfectly relative (as George Carlin
said; Earth will be here long after we’re gone), because when
necessary we can always get lots of future helium and even extract He3
(3He) from our moon, which might some day become viable considering
the ongoing depletion and the artificially inflated cost of
terrestrial helium as literally going through the roof. *Of course any
off-world resource of rare elements like helium is going to be spendy
as hell, but if there’s an insufficient terrestrial resupply of such
essential elements that’s in greater demand than ever, is what should
make its future cost a non-issue, just like the mutually perpetrated
cold-war era and subsequent proxy wars plus whatever consequence of
our military industrial complex and various Karma payback revenge
apparently hasn’t been an issue of cost for most of us, not even at
having cost this world trillions per year and having terminated
millions of lives, in great part because we simply could not manage to
otherwise deal with upgrading common infrastructure issues and sustain
our spendy global domination plus cloak and dagger wars at the same
time. *So obviously whatever cost is not a factor once having compared
this to the ongoing cost of what our mainstream status-quo seem to
accept and even promote whenever ethnicity and the ever increasing
wealth and authority disparity seems a whole lot more important, at
least if you happen to be a Rothschild oligarch that has never worked
at any honest job in their life.

The atmospheric escape of helium simply isn’t limited as to the
mainstream reported and K-12 textbook published notion of 50 grams/
sec, at least not as of the last few hundred years of us exploiting
every accessible pool or deposit of hydrocarbons which always includes
an unbound component of *helium provided from a million holes as
having been punched into Earth, along with nature keeping up with its
fair share of sustaining the 5.24 ppm saturation which also doesn’t
stick around for long after the source is either depleted, plugged or
especially once tapped out, because the innards of Earth is supposedly
limited as to creating just 3000 tonnes/year, even though its worth
could now be revised upwards to suggest as much as 30,000 tonnes/year,
which still may not be sufficient as long as there’s no apparent
recycling efforts and the uneducated public is willing to pay and/or
getting taxed upon science and technology having to pay more than
$1000/m3 or $176/oz.

It has been well documented that some natural geothermal vents in
India have been objectively quantified as giving off 20% helium (1e25
atoms of 2He/m3 or at least 1e24 atoms if all other vapors are mostly
those of those heavier than nitrogen), plus we always have more than a
dozen active volcanic eruptions, and per se none of that considerable
volume of helium sticks around but for a few seconds per vertical
meter after each geothermal vent/belch because its vertical migration
has been objectively quantified. *Otherwise most natural ground
venting of helium is perhaps worth something less than 1 ppm/sec.
However, even if the all-inclusive average leakage of all things
natural plus artificially caused were limited as to only 10% of that
by providing only 0.1 ppm/m2/sec, is still a global surface exit
volume of 5.1e13 ppm/m3/sec, and don't ever forget there's roughly
5e25 atoms/m3 of standard surface air which makes that conservative .1
ppm/m3/sec into being worth 5e18 atoms of helium escapement per each
and every surface cubic meter of surface atmosphere.

*5e18 x 5.1e14 x 1.67e-27 = 42.6e5 kg/sec.

As is each cubic meter of surface atmosphere supposedly contains 5.24
ppm He, which represents 2.67e20 atoms of helium/m3 that has to be
continually replenished, because of the extremely low mass or specific
gravity of helium which never binds with anything as it unavoidably
floats and drifts upwards because of its minimal molecular mass, is
what also makes it a rather buoyant or lofty element that’s never
going to hold whatever vertical position upon release nor much less
migrate itself downward on its own, as others having specified that
our planet would need roughly 7 times as much gravity in order to hold
onto its helium.

Even if this ongoing molecular loss of 2He were given 1000 seconds in
order to escape each vertical cubic meter, is going to represent that .
1 ppm/m3 of natural plus artificial surface escapement is going to
give us an all-inclusive global loss of 4.26e3 kg/sec(4.26 tonnes/
sec), which seems a far cry greater rate of loss than any wussy 50
grams/sec as specified by our mainstream status-quo science peers
that’s always getting their purely subjective estimate of global
helium loss published just about everywhere.

I’ve certainly made my fair share of math mistakes in the past, and
perhaps this is yet another mistaken conclusion, but I honestly don’t
think so. *If I’m way the hell off base, then why don’t our Big Energy
cartels that most of you have supported and even worship, as
supposedly knowing everything there is to know, should bother to tell
us otherwise?

Since multiple public funded Earth science missions like OCO have been
foiled, perhaps our Big Energy buddies at BP are the ones that should
be telling us exactly how little helium escapes from all of their
hydrocarbon exploitations and refineries, as compared to Jamnagar,
PDVSA, ExxonMobil, Shell or others.

Our planet simply has not been gaining atmospheric mass, even though
humanity has been doing everything possible as to increasing its
saturations of CO2 and NOx in addition to increasing water vapor plus
loads of acidic soot and many other artificial contributions (mostly
of bad or toxic stuff) along with our having been venting hydrogen and
helium as fast as we can manage. *Perhaps initially our planet had 100
bar (5.1e20 kg) worth of an atmospheric layer protecting everything,
or nearly a hundred times more atmospheric mass to work with, but
obviously that’s not the case anymore with an atmospheric mass of only
5.1e18 kg (10 tonnes/m2).

Helium escapement (second to the easiest of elements to blow away) is
further increased by way of solar heating and of course getting
constantly excavated away from Earth by the solar wind which includes
some of its own helium (CMEs offering as much as 10% He and the
average solar wind supposedly offers 4%), none of which sticks with
our planet other than temporarily lingering within the exosphere
because, most of the solar wind is fended off by the magnetosphere.

Even our moon can't manage to hold onto its ionized sodium (23 times
heavier than helium), with an exospheric ionized sodium cloud of 9r
and a comet like tail of 900,0000 km, of which Earth passes directly
through every time that moon gets directly aligned between us and our
sun that's typically blowing at 300 km/sec, which can surge to 1000+
km/sec. *Anyone care to give us your swag as to how much ionized
sodium/sec is extracted from and leaving our moon?

No doubt there’s another treasure trove of lithium within our moon,
not to mention those heavy elements besides iron and titanium plus
thorium and uranium and perhaps even some cobalt which should help to
explain the gamma our naked moon has to offer. *Of course, if there’s
heavy elements would also represent that platinum and gold shouldn’t
be excluded.

There is always some influx of elements, including helium as contained
within the space dust, meteorites and asteroids, but at best it's a
fraction of what vapor tonnage of our terrestrial hydrogen and helium
is being lost to space.

One of the many off-world benefits of TBMs excavating into the thick
paramagnetic basalt and carbonado crust of our moon, will be the
extraction of 2He and 3He in addition to obtaining volumes of good old
O2 and various other elements including a little H2O from vaporizing
its paramagnetic basalt. *The hard part of all this has to do with
convincing our terrestrial oligarchs into allowing this future
treasure trove of nearby element extractions to happen, before it’s
too late.

Of course, according to our Georgia Guidestones and if adhering to
their specified manifesto dogma of planet Earth accommodating a
maximum of only 500 million humans, of extremely well educated and
wealthy humans that a great deal of modern technology is capably
taking care of, would pretty much eliminate any need of future off-
world exploitations. *No doubt the reason why our FEMA and DHS needed
those extra spare billions of hollow tipped bullets (perhaps by now
we’re talking 15+ bullets for each and every man, woman and child on
Earth, not to mention our combined WMD capability that has gotten
multifold capable of eliminating most every soul on Earth as well as
wiping out most other biodiversity). *Gee whiz, what sort of global
Karma could possibly go wrong? (this time)

Naturally, to most that manage to read through this revised topic and
its, our moon has absolutely nothing to do with exploiting the
extremely nearby planet Venus, or so you might think. *Unlike your
mainstream cozy box-limited self of keeping everything nicely social/
political and faith-based correct and thereby failsafe, by not
sticking your mostly white and/or rednecks anywhere near the
obfuscation edge of any possible nondisclosures and taboos that would
only get you and your extended family into a whole lot of mainstream
status-quo trouble, is pretty much why we’re in the doom and gloom
sort of mess we’re in.

Terraforming the innards of our moon is just another logical
steppingstone, as providing a terrific outpost/gateway and very safe
oasis capable of housing billions of us, as well as for utilizing its
L1 and L2 plus eventually as being relocated within Earth L1 in order
to directly benefit everyone else stuck on Earth, including salvaging
most of the global environment that essentially needs an opportunity
to cool off before it’s too late. *There’s actually 10+ good reasons
for every bad notion you can think of, but when mainstream naysayism,
science obfuscation and their denial of being in denial has closed all
the doors, is what makes all of this a whole lot harder than it needs
to be.

We could also learn a lot about atmospheric and geological physics
from exploiting the extremely nearby planet Venus that has lots of
just about everything to offer, including at least one set of weird
geometrical formations offering a very rational infrastructure
community like setting. *But of course our NASA and their associates
of closely protected insiders are having none of this, no matters what
the consequences.

Obviously our resident FUD-masters of Usenet/newsgroups (typically
devout faith-based types, including those of pretend-Atheists that
merely act/react as though Semitic) adamantly oppose any such usage or
exploitation of our moon, regardless of the consequences and/or Karma
of just sitting on our butts and doing nothing positive nor
constructive. *In fact, it seems only the most faith-based types
object as to any notions of humans ever leaving Earth, and yet they
each want nothing short of global domination in order to prove their
version of everything is all that matters. *So, we should only expect
this global situation as going from bad to worse, as long as we allow
only the upper caste of oligarchs that are never elected nor
appointed, to be calling all the shots, as well as otherwise whenever
possible taking all the credits for anything good while in denial
about having anything to do with whatever bad stuff has taken place
because bad things are supposedly never their fault.

Be my guest and apply your very own photographic enlargement software,
as to viewing this one small but rather interesting mountainous area
of Venus, using your independent deductive expertise as to enlarge or
magnify this extensively mountainous terrain of Venus that I’ve
focused upon, really shouldn’t be asking too much. *Most of modern
PhotoZoom and numerous other photographic software variations tend to
accomplish this enlargement process automatically (including iPhone
and Safari image zooming), although some extra applied filtering and
thereby image enhancing for dynamic range compensations (aka contrast)
can further improve upon the end result (no direct pixel modifications
should ever be necessary, because it’s all a derivative from the
original Magellan radar imaging of 36 confirming radar scans/pixel,
that can always be 100% verified).

“GuthVenus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in
question:
*https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...Guth#slideshow....

*http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif

*https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...8634/BradGuth#
*http://translate.google.com/#
*Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG, Guth Usenet/”Guth
Venus”, GuthVenus

On Apr 11, 9:43*am, Brad Guth wrote: On Feb 10, 3:36*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

On Dec 13 2012, 7:43*am, Brad Guth wrote:


Going off-world is at most as close as our moon, although Venus at
only 110 LD(lunar distance) isn't hardly all that much further.


*Thumbnail images of Venus, including mgn_c115s095_1.gif (225 m/
pixel)
*http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/th...humbnails.html
*Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1
*http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/ht...115s095_1.html
*http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif
*“Guth Venus”, at 1:1, then 10x resample/enlargement of the area in
question:
*https://picasaweb.google.com/bradgut...18595926178146
*https://picasaweb.google.com/bradgut...79402364691314


*http://translate.google.com/#
*Brad Guth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,Guth Usenet/”Guth
Venus”,GuthVenus
*“GuthVenus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in
question:
*https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...Guth#slideshow...


Terraforming the moon underground:
It's probably close to averaging -0- F (255 K) at no greater than 10
meters deep, and it shouldn't have any problems reaching 70 F (day or
night) at 100 km deep or possibly as shallow as 10 km. *The R-factor
of lunar regolith (lose basalt rock and loads of crystal dry dust
that’s at minimum 10 meters deep) is none too shabby, and otherwise
the geothermal conductance and/or heat transfer coefficient (aka
geothermal gradient) of its paramagnetic basalt crust of 3.5 g/cm3
density shouldn't be significantly any different than here on Earth,
except that our terrestrial basalt isn't nearly as paramagnetic or
much less offering carbonado, and the core heat of Earth being 7000+ K
as opposed to only 1000 K of our moon. *Supposedly there is only a wee
little bit of lunar granite to deal with, but the samples thus far are
inconsistent in their composition.


A new interpretation is that all-inclusively the geothermal outflux of
Earth (including geothermal vents and volcanic contributions) is
getting rid of roughly 128 mw/m2, whereas our moon is supposedly only
getting rid of as little as 16 mw/m2 (an 8th as much).


*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geothermal_gradient
*“Geothermal gradient is the rate of increasing temperature with
respect to increasing depth in the Earth's interior.”


The "Igneous Petrology" of our moon and Venus should each be
considerably different than Earth.


“The composition of igneous rocks and minerals can be determined via a
variety of methods of varying ease, cost, and complexity. The simplest
method is observation of hand samples with the naked eye and/or with a
hand lens. This can be used to gauge the general mineralogical
composition of the rock, which gives an insight into the composition.”


Unfortunately, the rocks returned from our moon were entirely similar
to those of terrestrial rocks. *Of course there’s all sorts of actual
paramagnetic basalt moon rock to be found on Earth, because there
should be at least a thousand teratonnes of it, whereas naturally most
of which ended up in oceans and otherwise as having meteor and obvious
melt indications that are entirely quite different than local volcanic
spewed basalts.


“A more precise but still relatively inexpensive way to identify
minerals (and thereby the bulk chemical composition of the rock) with
a petrographic microscope. These microscopes have polarizing plates,
filters, and a conoscopic lens that allow the user to measure a large
number of crystallographic properties.”


Contributor “Wretch Fossil” actually has a very good “petrographic
microscope” and multiple resources plus talent of interpreting such to
go along with it. *Sadly this technology and its expertise of
interpreting is being ignored by those of authority that do not want
outsiders having a public say about anything. *So, once again, it
really doesn’t matter whatever level of modern applied technology and
expertise we have to offer, because it’s only going to be topic/author
stalked and systematically trashed by those of Usenet/newsgroup
authority that have multiple mainstream issues at risk.


TBMs cutting their tunnels into the interior of our moon should prove
both interesting and rewarding in terms of extracting rare and
valuable elements, not to mention creating the very cozy and safe
habitat potential that’s opened up for multiple uses. *Unfortunately
this method can not be applied on such a geodynamically active planet
like Venus that has such a thin crust and way more primordial core
energy outflux of perhaps 20.5 w/m2 as contributing way more
geothermal energy than any other planet or moon has to offer, although
older and cooler planets or any number of their moons (except for Io
that’s averaging 2 w/m2) should be somewhat similar to terraforming
the cozy interior of our moon.
*http://www.mps.mpg.de/solar-system-s...etary_interior...
*http://commercialspace.pbworks.com/f/Public+ILN.pdf


*The likely 5e15~1e16 tonnes worth of lose surface rock and dust (plus
accumulated deposits) remaining on the naked surface of our moon (not
including another good portion as having been dislodged and deposited
on Earth) is a direct result of the thousands of significant impacts,
and especially as a result of its South polar crater of 2500 km
diameter.


Liquefied basalt as returning fallout from such truly horrific impacts
that should have extensively solidified and fused upon contact with
the relatively cool basalt surface, as such should have been quite
obvious and highly distinctive if such exposed lunar bedrock samples
had been return to Earth. *Sadly, no such samples or even unique
meteorites ever materialized from our NASA/Apollo era that found our
naked moon as instead so unusually reflective and UV, X-ray and gamma
inert as well as hardly the least bit dusty, and what little crystal
dry dust there was seemed to offer terrific surface tension and
clumping for terrific footing and traction like no place else.


Pay no special attention to those hiding behind curtains (cloaked as
always politically and faith-based correct), because it's their mostly
public-funded and/or faith-based job to topic/author stalk and to
otherwise FUD everything to death. *Hitler had the exact same
“Paperclip” team of ruse-masters and FUD-masters, as professional
media damage-control clowns working and/or manipulating the locals
into a mainstream status-quo mindset, which unfortunately far too many
have bought into instead of taking any logically deductive formulated
stance against their totally bat**** crazy peers.


Of course this mainstream status-quo policy of obfuscation and denial
is what brought us a mutually perpetrated cold-war era and the
negative Karma likes of 911 (make that positive Karma if you are an
oligarch of our military industrial complex), each of which wasted
decades and costing us trillions of our hard earned dollars, as well
as having systematically squandered all sorts of talent, expertise and
resources that we'll never get back, and which force other nations to
follow suit.


Venus is pretty much as hot and nasty as we’ve all been indoctrinated
about. *However, this not necessarily the case of each and every
location, such as mountainous and polar area can be considerably
cooler though still extremely hot by human standards that we’re
accustomed to. *With applied physics and reasonable technology, the
surface of Venus can be dealt with, at least robotically, and
otherwise via composite rigid airships it can be further exploited
while easily protecting the airship crew. *Of course you have to think
both really big and perhaps even small in order to fully appreciate
the potential of what exploiting such a nearby planet has to offer,
because it’s the in-between that’s not easily accomplished if you can
only think of terrestrial methods that get to deal with on Earth.


Our physically dark and naked moon is just another metallicity
treasure trove of valuable resources (including much clean energy),
just sitting out there and causing us mostly grief and otherwise
contributing very little terrestrial benefit, unless added IR, X-rays
and gamma plus loads of tidal surging and increased seismic trauma is
desirable.


 




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