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Faith Based Scientists Paranoid About Possible Mars Life
""Peter Bjørn Perlsø"" wrote in message ... Yes, "And god created man in his image" and all that entails needs a good debunking. I've always preferred to think of that as referring more towards mental or psychological than physical. Doesn't Ezekiel say that God has 7 ears and 7 eyes? |
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God wrote: Even less likely than brine I'm afraid. CO2 doesn't have a wide range of temp/pressure in which it is liquid and motile. You didn't look at that phase diagram, did you? http://scifun.chem.wisc.edu/chemweek...se_diagram.gif We had a fire extinguisher full of liquid CO2 in our house, I used it to put out a woman's car fire one night. CO2's triple point (-56.6 C) is within ten degrees centigrade of the average temperature of Mars (-63 C). Pat |
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Scott Hedrick wrote:
""Peter Bjørn Perlsø"" wrote in message ... Yes, "And god created man in his image" and all that entails needs a good debunking. I've always preferred to think of that as referring more towards mental or psychological than physical. Doesn't Ezekiel say that God has 7 ears and 7 eyes? Beats me. Bu the church faithful have always assumed that *man* had a special place in the center of the universe. Lets see how that fares once ETs pop up. -- regards , Peter B. P. - http://titancity.com/blog , http://macplanet.dk "If guns kill, do pencils cause spelling errors?" |
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Scott Hedrick wrote: I've always preferred to think of that as referring more towards mental or psychological than physical. Doesn't Ezekiel say that God has 7 ears and 7 eyes? Sounds Hindu. Either that, or he read the wrong passage out of "The Necronomicon". Here's the juicy stuff from old Zeke: http://www.justbible.com/Chapters/B26C023.htm Pat |
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Faith Based Scientists Paranoid About Possible Mars Life
God wrote: Even less likely than brine I'm afraid. CO2 doesn't have a wide range of temp/pressure in which it is liquid and motile. "Pat Flannery" wrote in message You didn't look at that phase diagram, did you? http://scifun.chem.wisc.edu/chemweek...se_diagram.gif We had a fire extinguisher full of liquid CO2 in our house, I used it to put out a woman's car fire one night. CO2's triple point (-56.6 C) is within ten degrees centigrade of the average temperature of Mars (-63 C). Snicker. And you need a minimum of around 400 bar to keep the stuff liquid - more if the temp rises a bit. You don't increase the pressure on a liquid by simply dumping a pile of stone on top of it. try doing that with a cup of water by dumping a hand full of sand into the cup. Does the surface pressure go up? Nope. So what's the pressure of on CO2, 1, 10, 200, 2000 feet below ground level? Essentially the same as it is at ground level. 6 millibars, not 400 bars. Liquid... Ahahahahahahahahahahah..... |
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"Pat Flannery" wrote Well, let's see... we've got a planet whose atmosphere is primarily CO2, No, you have a planet whose atmosphere is primarily GONE. "Pat Flannery" wrote which has CO2 snow at its icecaps, and has eruptions of CO2 gas at its south pole. Which has CO2 and water ice at its ice caps and possible eruptions of CO2 at it's southern pole during spring when the CO2 ice fields melt from the bottom up. "Pat Flannery" wrote So we've got lots of solid and gaseous CO2, and at Martian temperatures all that is needed to get liquid CO2 is some pressure, like you'd find underground for instance. Liquids feel no exstra pressure under ground. If they did, then they would simply rise to the surface. Stupid... Stupid.. Flannery. "Pat Flannery" wrote On the other hand, water vapor in the atmosphere is extremely scarce to undetectable, The observation of fog in low lying areas and surface frost (water) are commonplace. "Pat Flannery" wrote we haven't yet seen any liquid water running around on the surface even down in the Hellas basin in high summer, and the only two ways we can have it underground are via some sort of exotic hydrogen peroxide/water mixture or internal heating of the planet by latent vulcanism... Or maybe something else. I think something else. Lets go see. "Pat Flannery" wrote Of course we do have the report on the H2O2 containing Mars critters that's co-authored by the parapsychologist, so maybe he knows, being that he's in psychic contact with them. :-D Doubtful. But even if he thought so, he would still make more sense than George, Can't find them WMD I promised were there, Bush. |
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I recall some of you posting that you think religion etc. will be
disproved someday. Maybe. I have very high doubts that the disproof of a God will have any effect on the general public though. I've quoted this guy before, and I'll quote him again, this is very well put: "I don't think that mankind is going to give up religion, even fundamentalism, anytime in the foreseeable future. For one thing, to really understand science and the way the universe works requires knowledge in math, physics, chemistry, biology, and other fields. And most devout people are unwilling and/or unable to exert the effort to acquire that knowledge. And given the poor quality of most public schools and the mind-rotting content of most mass media, I don't think that is going to change. So while mankind's knowledge of science will continue to expand, the percentage of the population who understand that science will continue to shrink. And that means that religion, and especially fundamentalism, will continue to thrive." - John Salisbury |
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"Z 1 Y 0 N 3 X" wrote I recall some of you posting that you think religion etc. will be disproved someday. Maybe. I have very high doubts that the disproof of a God will have any effect on the general public though. I've quoted this guy before, and I'll quote him again, this is very well put: Religion will be gone once man has gone, in roughly 200-300 years. If man is lucky a few of he species will be kept as pets by our machine offspring. |
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"Z 1 Y 0 N 3 X" wrote in message
ups.com I recall some of you posting that you think religion etc. will be disproved someday. I've never once said such a thing, nor having implied such. Sorry about that. "I don't think that mankind is going to give up religion, even fundamentalism, anytime in the foreseeable future. For one thing, to really understand science and the way the universe works requires knowledge in math, physics, chemistry, biology, and other fields. And most devout people are unwilling and/or unable to exert the effort to acquire that knowledge. And given the poor quality of most public schools and the mind-rotting content of most mass media, I don't think that is going to change. So while mankind's knowledge of science will continue to expand, the percentage of the population who understand that science will continue to shrink. And that means that religion, and especially fundamentalism, will continue to thrive." - John Salisbury I agree, as having stipluated that ETs most likely have a faith-based reality much like ours, just not nearly a screwed up and/or otherwise downright sicko perverted as ours. Unfortunately, the vast bulk of humanity as sequestered upon Earth would much rather be snookered and thus easily dumbfounded into believing in anything that doesn't rock their good ship LOLLIPOP. In other words, telling the truth is for the birds. - Brad Guth -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG |
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