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Months and Calendars in Arabic (was: Synchronic analysis of "rare"?)
On Dec 12, 1:39*pm, oriel36 wrote:
On Dec 12, 6:22*pm, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: On Dec 11, 1:01*pm, oriel36 wrote: On Dec 11, 5:16*pm, Yusuf B Gursey wrote: On Dec 11, 9:52*am, oriel36 wrote: On Dec 11, 12:46*pm, Yusuf B Gursey wrote: On Dec 11, 6:50*am, oriel36 wrote: On Dec 11, 3:41*am, Yusuf B Gursey wrote: On Dec 10, 5:23*pm, Dr J R Stockton wrote: In sci.astro message ooglegroups.com, Wed, 8 Dec 2010 20:19:59, Peter T. Daniels posted: Are you referring to intercalary months? In the Hebrew calendar every three years or so, Adar is followed by Adar Sheni (2nd Adar). I have been led to believe that it is not quite that simple - that the intercalary month is Adar, preceding the old Adar which becomes Adar II. I have not seen that in the articles on the Jewish Calendar.. Adar II is the inrercalary month. You know something,any calendar hinges on the creation of the equal 24 hour day and the oldest known reference to the precise meaning of the the Hebrew and Islamic calendars traditionally use sesonal hours, the day beginning at sunset. That is a junk statement,the Hebrews used the equal 24 hour day and actually imprinted their knowledge of this day in their texts.If you can get back to me on the cause behind the day/night cycle and why contemporaries believe there is an imbalance of 366 1/4 rotations and 365 1/4 days,then and only then can you discuss calendars of any sort. give a reference. Ah,there are thousands and thousands looking for references when they have to start with the bigger picture such as why the Hebrew author(s) were very specific with days and dates - "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, on the seventeenth day of the month: it was on that day that All the fountains of the great abyss burst forth, and the floodgates of the sky were opened" Gen 7 v 11 Now,if you were looking for a reference I would suggest Julius Oppert's 1877 work 'Die Daten Der Genesis' who re-discovered the outlines of the Hebrew awareness of timekeeping systems and the way it is grouped around the genealogical structure from Adam to Noah is a masterpiece,too good to share with people who would mishandle it which is why I only rarely mention it. http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/genesis/genesis5.htm Enoch's lifespan stands out at 365 years but if I had to explain its correspondence with the calendar year and the entire structure of the genealogy then you would lose the point of the masterpiece itself.Try Campbell page 10 if you require a foundation in Judaeo-Christian masterpieces - http://books.google.ie/books?id=c4e8...rontcover&dq=i... The calendar builders are like the Cathedral architects and although I am an astronomer,I have a special admiration for these people and their precise reasoning abilities.You can't give references to appreciate an extremely satisfying work of art,if you do you have already lost but showing you some of the subtleties should be enough,if it isn't then no harm done.- Ah.. So what you have been failing to reveal all this time is that you are simply a biblical fundamentalist with no interest in scientific investigation of ancient calendars. What sets me apart is the first person to explain the Feb 29th day/ night cycle and 24 hour rotation within context of 365 1/4 days and rotations in an orbital year in an era which refuses to accept it by virtue of 'sidereal time' reasoning and the nonsensical idea that there are 366 1/4 rotations in 365 1/4 days.Now that is fundamentalism of the worse kind !. I don't see confident men who can handle the ancient systems let alone their rough fit with planetary dynamics,I see only intellectual delirium,at least so far.- Once again, have you ever heard of Otto Neugebauer? |
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