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Holiday reading suggestion?
Mike Dworetsky wrote:
"AB" wrote in message ... As we are possibly like-minded people here, does anybody have any suggestions for some holiday reading this summer? Any astro-related recommendations would be welcome although as I am a relative beginner nothing too heavy please. Bear in mind i will not have access to my scope and most likely I will be reading it when its light (and hopefully sunny) so nothing that requires me to do any observing as I read. Thanks "Rocket Boys" by Homer Hickham (fiction) "Galileo's Daughter" by Dava Sobel (factual story, beautifully told) -- Mike Dworetsky (Remove "pants" spamblock to send e-mail) What about Isaac and his mutation of Copernican heliocentricity*,Galileo's writings support one and only one way to resolve plotted retrogrades - http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ima...2000_tezel.gif Here Salviati explains Jupiter's motion, then follows with:] Now what is said here of Jupiter is to be understood of Saturn and Mars also. In Saturn these retrogressions are somewhat more frequent than in Jupiter, because its motion is slower than Jupiter's, so that the Earth overtakes it in a shorter time. In Mars they are rarer, its motion being faster than that of Jupiter, so that the Earth spends more time in catching up with it. Next, as to Venus and Mercury, whose circles are included within that of the Earth, stoppings and retrograde motions appear in them also, due not to any motion that really exists in them, but to the annual motion of the Earth. This is acutely demonstrated by Copernicus . . . You see, gentlemen, with what ease and simplicity the annual motion -- if made by the Earth -- lends itself to supplying reasons for the apparent anomalies which are observed in the movements of the five planets. . . . It removes them all and reduces these movements to equable and regular motions; and it was Nicholas Copernicus who first clarified for us the reasons for this marvelous effect." 1632, Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems GALILEO What did Copernicus,Kepler and Galileo do to have their works destroyed by the Newtonian mutation which does not refer heliocentric orbital motion from an orbitally moving Earth. " Against the stellar background planetary motions appear sometimes direct,sometimes stationary and sometimes retrograde.But from an orbitally moving Earth planetary heliocentric motions are seen direct " COPERNICUS * " For to the earth planetary motions appear sometimes direct, sometimes stationary, nay, and sometimes retrograde. But from the sun they are always seen direct," NEWTON Holocausts are built on silence,not intentional,but that silence of the dull. |
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Holiday reading suggestion?
JRS: In article .com
, dated Thu, 25 May 2006 04:32:09 remote, seen in news:uk.sci.astronomy, oriel36 posted : Approximate (?) details, from memory - "The Book that Nobody Read", by Owen Gingerich, recently published, and possibly reviewed in "Physics World". It's about the copies of Copernicus' "De Revolutionibus"; it's about the usual size for a book. -- © Signatures should not be quoted. It is about how the myth grew that Copernican reasoning was unpenetrable to all but a few while the annotations on the De Revolutionibus books suggest otherwise. A rather inadequate description. There is much in the book that is of interest independently of that hypothesis. You are, of course, kill-ruled; I fetched that article specifically. I see no need to alter the kill-rules. -- © John Stockton, Surrey, UK. Turnpike v4.00 MIME. © Web URL:http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/ - FAQqish topics, acronyms & links; Astro stuff via astron-1.htm, gravity0.htm ; quotings.htm, pascal.htm, etc. No Encoding. Quotes before replies. Snip well. Write clearly. Don't Mail News. |
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Holiday reading suggestion?
Another one would be George Smoot and Kelly Davidson's "Wrinkles in Time" which is a good read of all the back work and preparation leading to COBE, the Cosmic Microwave Background explorer and the work leading from that. It then talks about what the results mean for cosmology. It has a great chapter on the balloon work done from Antarctica - with the statement that the best day in your life is the day you step foot on Antarctica, the next best is the day you leave ! -- A I only see in infrared... |
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Holiday reading suggestion?
In message , Mike Dworetsky
writes "AB" wrote in message ... As we are possibly like-minded people here, does anybody have any suggestions for some holiday reading this summer? Any astro-related recommendations would be welcome although as I am a relative beginner nothing too heavy please. Bear in mind i will not have access to my scope and most likely I will be reading it when its light (and hopefully sunny) so nothing that requires me to do any observing as I read. Thanks "Rocket Boys" by Homer Hickham (fiction) I must read my copy :-) The film version ("October Sky") is well worth watching, IMO. |
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Holiday reading suggestion?
Dr John Stockton wrote: JRS: In article .com , dated Thu, 25 May 2006 04:32:09 remote, seen in news:uk.sci.astronomy, oriel36 posted : Approximate (?) details, from memory - "The Book that Nobody Read", by Owen Gingerich, recently published, and possibly reviewed in "Physics World". It's about the copies of Copernicus' "De Revolutionibus"; it's about the usual size for a book. -- © Signatures should not be quoted. It is about how the myth grew that Copernican reasoning was unpenetrable to all but a few while the annotations on the De Revolutionibus books suggest otherwise. A rather inadequate description. There is much in the book that is of interest independently of that hypothesis. You are, of course, kill-ruled; I fetched that article specifically. I see no need to alter the kill-rules. -- © John Stockton, Surrey, UK. Turnpike v4.00 MIME. © Web URL:http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/ - FAQqish topics, acronyms & links; Astro stuff via astron-1.htm, gravity0.htm ; quotings.htm, pascal.htm, etc. No Encoding. Quotes before replies. Snip well. Write clearly. Don't MailNews. Even Gingerich has not got that level of intuitive intelligence to recognise the Keplerian 'Panis Quadragesimalis' for what it is. You ignorant Newtonian creeps,following in the footsteps of that numbskull, mistook the representation as signifying the motion of Mars as seen from a stationary Earth and straightened out the lines if you place the Sun in the center.hence the ignorant Newtonian mutation of Copernican heliocentricity - "For to the earth planetary motions appear sometimes direct, sometimes stationary, nay, and sometimes retrograde. But from the sun they are always seen direct," NEWTON Should the original poster of this thread care to go to page 86 and make a little effort to recognise that the intricate structure is based on two seperate comparisons,he will be rewarded with the true experience of heliocentricity as Kepler,Galileo and Copernicus knew it.Until that reasoning is restored,there is no such thing as astronomy,there is only the 17th century vandalism. http://mitpress.mit.edu/journals/pdf/POSC_13_1_74_0.pdf "Copernicus, by attributing a single annual motion to the earth, entirely rids the planets of these extremely intricate coils [spiris], leading the individual planets into their respective orbits [orbitas],quite bare and very nearly circular. In the period of time shown in the diagram, Mars traverses one and the same orbit as many times as the 'garlands' [corollas] you see looped towards the centre, with one extra, making nine times, while at the same time the Earth repeats its circle sixteen times " Astronomia Nova 1609 How gorgeous that is,the plotted motions of Mars against the stellar background from an orbitally moving Earth. Again,the dullest and most unoriginal people dominate humanity's astronomical heritage with inferior mutations concealed under linguistic tinsel. |
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In article .com,
"oriel36" wrote: Would you mind explaining - in just two short paragraphs - what the hell you are on about? Execessive verbiage is just obscuring it. -- The greatest enemy of science is psuedoscience. |
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Holiday reading suggestion?
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a1pha-0mega writes In article .com, "oriel36" wrote: Would you mind explaining - in just two short paragraphs - what the hell you are on about? Execessive verbiage is just obscuring it. Please don't encourage our resident troll :-) Look at the rest of this thread (or any other post by oriel36) to see why. |
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Holiday reading suggestion?
In article , Jonathan Silverlight
wrote: In message , a1pha-0mega writes In article .com, "oriel36" wrote: Would you mind explaining - in just two short paragraphs - what the hell you are on about? Execessive verbiage is just obscuring it. Please don't encourage our resident troll :-) Look at the rest of this thread (or any other post by oriel36) to see why. Agreed. (BTW I'm not morphing - I'm swapping between 2 or 3 different newsreaders and have finally agreed a psuedonym and client - oh for a good usenet client for the mac! all other pseudonyms die here SPLAT!) I've google-group'd him on geology,astro and physics newsgroups and forums - and for the life of me I cannot understand what he has his panties in a bunch over. His comments on axial tilt sound more like a fundamental lack of understanding of orbital mechanics then anything else. Unfortunately it seems USENET is full of them. Over the last 10 years I've flitted on and off it as it seems too full of people who have the answers QM and relativity but all they seem to have is a deep and profound misunderstanding of it. -- The true enemy of science is psuedoscience... |
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