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Old February 18th 04, 09:24 PM
Hallerb
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http://www.floridatoday.com/news/spa...crewescape.htm

No surprise there, but the article says shuttkles retired by 2010 at least for
manned operations.

how far along is nasa on continuing to use the shuttles in unmanned operations?

Would taking the people off save much money?
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Old February 18th 04, 11:12 PM
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Hallerb wrote:

http://www.floridatoday.com/news/spa...crewescape.htm

No surprise there, but the article says shuttkles retired by 2010 at least
for manned operations.


Or the end of ISS assembly, whichever comes later.

how far along is nasa on continuing to use the shuttles in unmanned
operations?


I don't think they're even considering it.

Would taking the people off save much money?


Not nearly as much as retiring them to museums and using EELVs instead.

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Old February 19th 04, 11:44 AM
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"Hallerb" wrote in message
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http://www.floridatoday.com/news/spa...crewescape.htm

No surprise there, but the article says shuttkles retired by 2010 at least

for
manned operations.

how far along is nasa on continuing to use the shuttles in unmanned

operations?

Would taking the people off save much money?


what happened to the element of danger? and why dont they fit passenger
airlines with escape pods?


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Old February 19th 04, 12:46 PM
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what happened to the element of danger? and why dont they fit passenger
airlines with escape pods?


Eventually passenger compartments will be escape pods. that day is coming just
like safety belts in vehicles back in the 60s were thought like escape pods are
today.
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Old February 19th 04, 02:53 PM
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(Hallerb) writes:

http://www.floridatoday.com/news/spa...crewescape.htm

No surprise there, but the article says shuttkles retired by 2010 at least for
manned operations.

how far along is nasa on continuing to use the shuttles in unmanned
operations?

Would taking the people off save much money?


This has been discussed before. It's very unlikely you'll see a
shuttle fly unmanned.

Jeff
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Old February 19th 04, 09:13 PM
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coming just like safety belts in vehicles back in the 60s were
thought like escape pods are today.


This statement is completely devoid of any basis in reality. Please
provide us with a tiny shred of evidence that this is true.

Jeff



Oh its very simple. everyone is getting less willing to put up with risk and
wants everything safer/

At some point boeing or another manufacturer will build a prototype and people
will prefer flying with asuch a vehicle. no it may not help in some accidents
but all it will take is one big high profile success and regular airliners will
become obsolete.

in the 60s people laughed at the safety devices we take for granted today.



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Old February 19th 04, 09:57 PM
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Hallerb wrote:

coming just like safety belts in vehicles back in the 60s were
thought like escape pods are today.


This statement is completely devoid of any basis in reality. Please
provide us with a tiny shred of evidence that this is true.

Jeff



Oh its very simple. everyone is getting less willing to put up with risk
and wants everything safer/

At some point boeing or another manufacturer will build a prototype and
people will prefer flying with asuch a vehicle. no it may not help in some
accidents but all it will take is one big high profile success and regular
airliners will become obsolete.

in the 60s people laughed at the safety devices we take for granted today.


Except that in the 60's There were seatbelts in cars before usage became
mandatory. People did and still believe it will not happen to them.
Seatbelts were effective and cheap to include in every vehicle. Not so
with escape pods or other anything else. With 100 times the energy because
of moving 10 times faster, there is no simple way to absorb that much
energy in an emergency. Does no matter if you talk parachutes for 500 or
one big one for the plane. Unless it is simple, safe and reliable, it will
never be adopted. I could believe that the the urge for ever safer
transport would lead to the end of commercial aviation before ejector seats
or pods were adopted.
 




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