Einstein's biggest mistakes

On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:52:09 -0500, Absolutely Vertical
wrote:

On 6/18/2013 6:40 AM, Henry Wilson DSc. wrote:


These were his words,"interestingly, when the ball is
released, the ground will continue to move to the east but also start
moving to the _north_."

Looks like we'll soon have lots of mountains on the North Pole.


since you have difficulty following simple sentences, i'll use simpler ones.

suppose you are traveling in a circle, with the center of the circle to
your left. at any given moment, your velocity vector points tangent to
the circle. however, you are turning (obviously) to the left. the
direction of the change in your velocity is toward the center. this is
what gives rise to the term 'centripetal acceleration'. the word
'centripetal' literally means 'center seeking' and this acceleration
points directly toward the center of the circle.

now if you were pushing a wagon while doing this and then let it go, the
wagon would proceed in a straight line while you continued to turn in a
circle. because your acceleration is toward the center of the circle,
remember, you will move away from the wagon. relative to the wagon, you
will begin moving toward the center of the circle. this is, after all,
what centripetal acceleration means.

now, suppose you are standing 20 yard from the north pole facing east,
and you stand there for a day. during those 24 hours, you will
circumscribe a circle, with the center of that circle lying to your
left. this means that, during the course of standing there, your
acceleration points to your left. left of east (the direction you're
facing) is north. your acceleration is toward the north.

now if you drop a ball at some point while standing on that spot, the
ball will behave like the wagon. it will have a tangential velocity to
the east, and it will continue in the direction. however, just like the
wagon, you will be veering away from that straight line motion, because
(after all) you're moving in a circle. the direction of that veer will
be to the left of east, i.e. north. that is, relative to the ball, which
is continuing to travel in the same direction eastward, you will begin
moving to the north, because the direction of the centripetal
acceleration is toward the axis of the earth.

i certainly hope that since 3rd graders know this, that this will not be
hard for you to follow.

Oh dear....the amateur is trying to teach the professional......

Delusional, i'm glad to see you have finally decided to try to learn some very
basic physics. You have done well.
However, you have not freed yourself from the embarrassment of your monumental
blunder, namely that the GROUND MOVES NORTH WHEN YOU DROP THE BALL.

So I'm sorry, but you must try again...or take the easy way out and admit you
were wrong.

Henry Wilson DSc.

On 6/20/2013 1:20 PM, Henry Wilson DSc. wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:52:09 -0500, Absolutely Vertical
wrote:

On 6/18/2013 6:40 AM, Henry Wilson DSc. wrote:


These were his words,"interestingly, when the ball is
released, the ground will continue to move to the east but also start
moving to the _north_."

Looks like we'll soon have lots of mountains on the North Pole.


since you have difficulty following simple sentences, i'll use simpler ones.

suppose you are traveling in a circle, with the center of the circle to
your left. at any given moment, your velocity vector points tangent to
the circle. however, you are turning (obviously) to the left. the
direction of the change in your velocity is toward the center. this is
what gives rise to the term 'centripetal acceleration'. the word
'centripetal' literally means 'center seeking' and this acceleration
points directly toward the center of the circle.

now if you were pushing a wagon while doing this and then let it go, the
wagon would proceed in a straight line while you continued to turn in a
circle. because your acceleration is toward the center of the circle,
remember, you will move away from the wagon. relative to the wagon, you
will begin moving toward the center of the circle. this is, after all,
what centripetal acceleration means.

now, suppose you are standing 20 yard from the north pole facing east,
and you stand there for a day. during those 24 hours, you will
circumscribe a circle, with the center of that circle lying to your
left. this means that, during the course of standing there, your
acceleration points to your left. left of east (the direction you're
facing) is north. your acceleration is toward the north.

now if you drop a ball at some point while standing on that spot, the
ball will behave like the wagon. it will have a tangential velocity to
the east, and it will continue in the direction. however, just like the
wagon, you will be veering away from that straight line motion, because
(after all) you're moving in a circle. the direction of that veer will
be to the left of east, i.e. north. that is, relative to the ball, which
is continuing to travel in the same direction eastward, you will begin
moving to the north, because the direction of the centripetal
acceleration is toward the axis of the earth.

i certainly hope that since 3rd graders know this, that this will not be
hard for you to follow.

Oh dear....the amateur is trying to teach the professional......

Delusional, i'm glad to see you have finally decided to try to learn some very
basic physics. You have done well.
However, you have not freed yourself from the embarrassment of your monumental
blunder, namely that the GROUND MOVES NORTH WHEN YOU DROP THE BALL.

oh dear, and so even after all this third grade explanation, which you
still do not understand, your eyebrows still shoot up over the top of
your wrinkled dome at centripetal acceleration pointing northward. you
still call that a blunder, when it is third grade science.

So I'm sorry, but you must try again...or take the easy way out and admit you
were wrong.

nah, since you can't absorb third grade lessons, i don't think i'm going
to try explaining it to you again at the second grade level.

On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:24:30 -0500, Absolutely Vertical
wrote:

On 6/20/2013 1:20 PM, Henry Wilson DSc. wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:52:09 -0500, Absolutely Vertical
wrote:

i certainly hope that since 3rd graders know this, that this will not be
hard for you to follow.

Oh dear....the amateur is trying to teach the professional......

Delusional, i'm glad to see you have finally decided to try to learn some very
basic physics. You have done well.
However, you have not freed yourself from the embarrassment of your monumental
blunder, namely that the GROUND MOVES NORTH WHEN YOU DROP THE BALL.

oh dear, and so even after all this third grade explanation, which you
still do not understand, your eyebrows still shoot up over the top of
your wrinkled dome at centripetal acceleration pointing northward. you
still call that a blunder, when it is third grade science.

Oh dear, you still haven't got it right.
The tips of the hairs on my head would point almost AWAY from north if there
was no atmosphere.
You should have started at first grade.

So I'm sorry, but you must try again...or take the easy way out and admit you
were wrong.

nah, since you can't absorb third grade lessons, i don't think i'm going
to try explaining it to you again at the second grade level.

Diaper, I just want you to explain why the ground moves north.

Meanwhile, tell me what happens to a rope tied to the end of a rapidly
rotating arm, in pure vacuum of course, gravity free.

_____|_____.____________________
arm rope

Henry Wilson DSc.

On 6/20/2013 2:45 PM, Henry Wilson DSc. wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:24:30 -0500, Absolutely Vertical
wrote:

On 6/20/2013 1:20 PM, Henry Wilson DSc. wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:52:09 -0500, Absolutely Vertical
wrote:

i certainly hope that since 3rd graders know this, that this will not be
hard for you to follow.

Oh dear....the amateur is trying to teach the professional......

Delusional, i'm glad to see you have finally decided to try to learn some very
basic physics. You have done well.
However, you have not freed yourself from the embarrassment of your monumental
blunder, namely that the GROUND MOVES NORTH WHEN YOU DROP THE BALL.

oh dear, and so even after all this third grade explanation, which you
still do not understand, your eyebrows still shoot up over the top of
your wrinkled dome at centripetal acceleration pointing northward. you
still call that a blunder, when it is third grade science.

Oh dear, you still haven't got it right.
The tips of the hairs on my head would point almost AWAY from north if there
was no atmosphere.
You should have started at first grade.

So I'm sorry, but you must try again...or take the easy way out and admit you
were wrong.

nah, since you can't absorb third grade lessons, i don't think i'm going
to try explaining it to you again at the second grade level.

Diaper, I just want you to explain why the ground moves north.

who?

anyway, i already told you. you are standing on the ground, at a point a
short distance away from the north pole. you go around in a circle over
the course of a day. that circular motion entails an acceleration toward
the center of the circle, called centripetal (center-seeking)
acceleration. you are accelerating toward the center of the circle --
that is, toward the north.

now notice that you are just standing on the ground, not walking. so if
you are going around in a circle, then so is the ground where you're
standing. and so if you are accelerating toward the center just by going
around in a circle, then so is the ground just by going around in a circle.

i really thought you could follow it. after all, it's at the third grade
level.


Meanwhile, tell me what happens to a rope tied to the end of a rapidly
rotating arm, in pure vacuum of course, gravity free.

_____|_____.____________________
arm rope


they both accelerate inwards. it's called centripetal acceleration. it
points inwards. that's third grade science.
the arm pulls the near end of the rope inward. that's the centripetal
force inward that provides the centripetal acceleration inward that is
inherent in anything going around in a circle.
the near end of the rope pulls inward on the far end of the rope. that's
the centripetal force inward that provides the centripetal acceleration
inward that is inherent in anything going around in a circle.

gee, henrywilson, are you saying that this third grade science about
circular motion is a surprise to you? just like koobee whorublee who
cannot believe that light impinging on a sphere of glass will be
refracted away from the original direction. you two should blather to
each other about how none of these third grade science claims make any
sense.

On 6/20/13 3:01 PM, Absolutely Vertical wrote:
who?

anyway, i already told you. you are standing on the ground, at a point a
short distance away from the north pole. you go around in a circle over
the course of a day. that circular motion entails an acceleration toward
the center of the circle, called centripetal (center-seeking)
acceleration. you are accelerating toward the center of the circle --
that is, toward the north.

now notice that you are just standing on the ground, not walking. so if
you are going around in a circle, then so is the ground where you're
standing. and so if you are accelerating toward the center just by going
around in a circle, then so is the ground just by going around in a circle.

i really thought you could follow it. after all, it's at the third grade
level.

A quick check of Ralph's posting record shows him to be a first class
troll without much background in physics.

Sam Wormley wrote:
On 6/20/13 3:01 PM, Absolutely Vertical wrote:
who?

anyway, i already told you. you are standing on the ground, at a
point a short distance away from the north pole. you go around in a
circle over the course of a day. that circular motion entails an
acceleration toward the center of the circle, called centripetal
(center-seeking) acceleration. you are accelerating toward the
center of the circle --
that is, toward the north.

now notice that you are just standing on the ground, not walking. so
if you are going around in a circle, then so is the ground where
you're standing. and so if you are accelerating toward the center
just by going around in a circle, then so is the ground just by
going around in a circle.

i really thought you could follow it. after all, it's at the third
grade level.

A quick check of Ralph's posting record shows him to be a first
class troll without much background in physics.

Another check shows that only on days when Absolutely Vertical
posts, Ralph posts. Check AV's absence on 15 and 16 June, and
look at the impact on Ralph's posts.
AV, you're guilty of keeping this troll fed :-)

Dirk Vdm

On 6/20/2013 3:14 PM, Dirk Van de moortel wrote:
Another check shows that only on days when Absolutely Vertical posts,
Ralph posts. Check AV's absence on 15 and 16 June, and
look at the impact on Ralph's posts.
AV, you're guilty of keeping this troll fed :-)

Dirk Vdm

hey, if he's so ****ing lonely that he literally waits to show himself a
clueless idiot to me, then i will draw my own amusement from his
self-abuse.

if a masochist begs a sadist to flog him, the sadist will respond with a
smile, '.... no.'
i'm no sadist. if he begs to be flogged, i'll flog him.

On 6/20/2013 3:10 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
A quick check of Ralph's posting record shows him to be a first class
troll without much background in physics.

well known.
still it's amusing to see someone who cackles with incredulity at things
third graders know. spaceman was amusing too, and he didn't believe that
multiplying two negative numbers yielded a positive number. if ralph
wants to be proud of disagreeing with true things that even third
graders know, then i want him to proclaim that loudly.

Absolutely Vertical wrote:
On 6/20/2013 3:14 PM, Dirk Van de moortel wrote:
Another check shows that only on days when Absolutely Vertical posts,
Ralph posts. Check AV's absence on 15 and 16 June, and
look at the impact on Ralph's posts.
AV, you're guilty of keeping this troll fed :-)

Dirk Vdm

hey, if he's so ****ing lonely that he literally waits to show
himself a clueless idiot to me, then i will draw my own amusement
from his self-abuse.

if a masochist begs a sadist to flog him, the sadist will respond
with a smile, '.... no.'
i'm no sadist. if he begs to be flogged, i'll flog him.

So much is clear. Or appears to be clear.
Flog along. He loves it.

Dirk Vdm

"Dirk Van de moortel" wrote in message
...

Absolutely Vertical wrote:
On 6/20/2013 3:14 PM, Dirk Van de moortel wrote:
Another check shows that only on days when Absolutely Vertical posts,
Ralph posts. Check AV's absence on 15 and 16 June, and
look at the impact on Ralph's posts.
AV, you're guilty of keeping this troll fed :-)

Dirk Vdm

hey, if he's so ****ing lonely that he literally waits to show
himself a clueless idiot to me, then i will draw my own amusement
from his self-abuse.

if a masochist begs a sadist to flog him, the sadist will respond
with a smile, '.... no.'
i'm no sadist. if he begs to be flogged, i'll flog him.

So much is clear. Or appears to be clear.
Flog along. He loves it.

Dirk Vdm

Always funny watching a dead horse being flogged, especially
when the flogger is a dead mule trying to learn how to pull a
cart.

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