Understanding Einstein's simple derivation of the LorentzTransformation

On 8/10/11 4:42 PM, NoEinstein wrote:
The mass of the fuel becomes the THRUST force by its KE!

Conservation of momentum applies.

On Aug 3, 4:15*am, Byron Forbes wrote:
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"NoEinstein" wrote in message
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1tree: *Please explain what you mean by "M the M's". *Morley was a
"chemist" of all things. *He was Michelson's hey boy in constructing
an improperly designed experiment. *Michelson was a TECHNICIAN who
wasn't smart enough to figure out what was going on in any of his nil-
result experiments.
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You ****ing rude, pig-ignorant worthless *******!
*http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T0d7o8X2-E

* * * * WOW!

* * * * Now that is an interesting experiment.

* * * * Magnetic field related? Gravitational field related?

* * * * ??????

* * * * Anyone know if there's an "official" explanation for this yet?

Dear Byron: I rarely look at anyone's links to the work of others.
However, though constructed above average as an apparatus, the
experimenter doesn't understand interference. You can NOT magnify
fringes by putting lenses in the light path leading to the target!
Light waves cannot be "magnified" in mid air! One can only magnify
fringes AFTER such appear on a target, by using a low power microscope
or simple magnifying glass. My target-of-choice is fine-textured
white spray paint on the second glass surface of the target.
Interference occurs at the flat, back surface of the glass, and is
easily visible through the paint. All of his observed "lines or rings"
of interference are ZONE interference probably comprising 500 to 1000
fringes too close together to be comprehended. What the experimenter
calls interference "shifts" is actually deflection of his apparatus
great enough to cause the ZONES of interference to shift. Crude
measurements of the apparatus deflection could be made if it were
possible to know the number of fringes in each of his white (or dark)
zones. — NoEinstein — A foremost authority on interferometers.

On Aug 3, 4:30*am, "Peter Webb"
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"Byron Forbes" wrote in message

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"NoEinstein" wrote in message
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1tree: *Please explain what you mean by "M the M's". *Morley was a
"chemist" of all things. *He was Michelson's hey boy in constructing
an improperly designed experiment. *Michelson was a TECHNICIAN who
wasn't smart enough to figure out what was going on in any of his nil-
result experiments.
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You ****ing rude, pig-ignorant worthless *******!
*http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T0d7o8X2-E

WOW!

Now that is an interesting experiment.

Magnetic field related? Gravitational field related?

??????

Anyone know if there's an "official" explanation for this yet?

For the fringes to move by 11 wavelengths, the two lengths must change by 11
x 500 nM = 5 micrometers.

With an apparatus 1 metre across constructed from angle iron, the lengths of
each arm would easily vary by this much due to gravity making the bearings
fit together better, or through elongation due to gravity stretching one arm
more than the other.

What he got is pretty much exactly what you would expect.

If anybody could be bothered, pretty easy to verify. Build the same device
but out of different materials. If this device also shows 11 wavelengths
change, then its probably not an artefact of the test equipment. It won't;
these results are easily explained, and not at all surprising.

Peter Webb: An apparatus showing only "zone" interference isn't
really an interferometer that can "measure" with light frequency. All
things that are light or dark are not necessarily fringes! —
NoEinstein —

On Aug 10, 6:00*pm, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 8/10/11 4:42 PM, NoEinstein wrote:

The mass of the fuel becomes the THRUST force by its KE!

* *Conservation of momentum applies.

Sam: If a rocket has a constant, uniform thrust, the momentum is
changing constantly and not conserved. Momentum isn't the "input".
The force causing velocity increase is. The Law of the Conservation
of Energy-Mass requires that the KE (out) must match the force (in) at
every point in time. — NE —

neither of you can explain the other's alleged theory;
that is your "teamwork," dood.

don't bother to reply, if you can't explain your ****,
such as what possible phenomenon of nature would
require "going faster" than the speed
of the propagation of the shockwavefront
of light.

I'm not calling you any names, even if you deserve
it in retaliation, fool.

See Androcles, we ARE on the same team! *— NE —

On 8/10/11 5:26 PM, NoEinstein wrote:
On Aug 10, 6:00 pm, Sam wrote:
On 8/10/11 4:42 PM, NoEinstein wrote:

The mass of the fuel becomes the THRUST force by its KE!

Conservation of momentum applies.

Sam: If a rocket has a constant, uniform thrust, the momentum is
changing constantly and not conserved. Momentum isn't the "input".
The force causing velocity increase is. The Law of the Conservation
of Energy-Mass requires that the KE (out) must match the force (in) at
every point in time. — NE —

Pitiful!

On Aug 10, 4:09*pm, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 8/10/11 5:26 PM, NoEinstein wrote:

On Aug 10, 6:00 pm, Sam *wrote:
On 8/10/11 4:42 PM, NoEinstein wrote:

The mass of the fuel becomes the THRUST force by its KE!

* * Conservation of momentum applies.

Sam: *If a rocket has a constant, uniform thrust, the momentum is
changing constantly and not conserved. *Momentum isn't the "input".
The force causing velocity increase is. *The Law of the Conservation
of Energy-Mass requires that the KE (out) must match the force (in) at
every point in time. *— NE —

* *Pitiful!

Getting over the first G in time creates the rocket's beginning motion
out of the inner gravity field.

John Armistead "NoEinstein" wrote:
John Parker "Androcles" 2nd.
2011 wrote:
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John Armistead wrote:
See Androcles, we ARE on the same team! — NE —

I'm glad to have you be on my team, Androcles!
My New Science is moving, isn't it. — NE —

hanson wrote:
.... ahhhhh.. , John, you are a man with a great soul.
You just made that other John ecstatically happy.
Now, its' no longer so "lonely at the top" for you, isn't it.

Thanks for the laughs guys... ahahahahanson


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John Armistead "NoEinstein" wrote:
John Parker "Androcles" 2nd.
2011 wrote:
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John Armistead wrote:
I'm glad to have you be on my team, Androcles!
My New Science is moving, isn't it. — NE —

hanson wrote:
.... ahhhhh.. , John, you are a man with a great soul.
You just made that other John ecstatically happy.
Now, its' no longer so "lonely at the top" for you, isn't it.

Thanks for the laughs guys... ahahahahanson


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On Aug 10, 6:00*pm, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 8/10/11 4:42 PM, NoEinstein wrote:

The mass of the fuel becomes the THRUST force by its KE!

* *Conservation of momentum applies.

Sam: If a rocket has a constant, uniform thrust, the momentum is
changing constantly and not conserved. Momentum isn't the "input".
The force causing velocity increase is. The Law of the Conservation
of Energy-Mass requires that the KE (out) must match the force (in) at
every point in time. ? NE ?


Consider the ship and the gas thrust out by the engine.

In a vacuum there is no other things in the universe and/or no
"connections" with them. (sort of - there is no escaping gravity though
for example)

So the gas is the relative frame. The force is constant. The power
does not approach infinity linearly due to speed since speed is always
relative to the gas in the vicinity of the ship (mostly).

The interesting part now is that it is impossible to escape the
vapor trail which is the only thing in the universe other than the ship
and is the ongoing, ever increasing FofR.

I suppose you can consider the gases far from the ship as no longer
"attached" and so the only FofR relative to the ship is the portion of
gases directly out of the engines that account for "substantial" push.

The key thing here is connection - in reality, the entire gas plume
can never be escaped - direct connection via push, gravity, etc.