...Hurricane Dean... Third Strongest Ever Recorded...

"obvious crank" whimpered

I may be best for you to make a retraction[..]

You first, as you've never had the credibility you've pretended..

--Oh, and check your ego diaper..

"Roger Coppock" wrote in message
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Nukes very probably wouldn't have much effect on a
major hurricane, like Dean.

In the second Cyborg book by Martin Caidin, a hurricane was used to cover
the nuclear destruction of a cruise ship.

On Aug 30, 12:25 am, "Hhhhmmmmm....."
wrote:
"john fernbach" wrote in message

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On Aug 22, 9:12 pm, (Rand Simberg)
wrote:

On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 21:57:32 -0400, in a place far, far away,
"Jonathan" made the phosphor on my monitor glow
in such a way as to indicate that:

"Rand Simberg" wrote in message
...

In other words, in geological terms, you have very limited experience.

Huh! Are you losing your mind?

No, not at all. Are you unfamiliar with the word "geological"? Or
"terms"? Or "limited," or "experience"?

But we all have "very limited experience" in geological terms, Rand.
Unless you're 2 -4 billion years old.

Are you that old, Rand?

Do you have extensive "experience," geologically?

----- why do folks like you insist that your experience of the last, oh, 5
years, 10 years, 50 years, means anything in terms of what you are using the
information to conclude?


It is both a great and tragic thing. We humans can in a matter months
and years solved the riddles that took 10s of thousands and millions
of years to manifest themselves. Such things related to geology or
astronomy fall into the realm of which I am referring. The tragedy is
that we live on the order of one century which is a blip in time when
dealing with things that are geological and astrological in nature.

On Aug 23, 4:43 pm, OM wrote:
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 10:54:47 -0700, Captain Compassion

wrote:
Will there ever be a cure for the leftist gene?

...Political cleansing.

And the righest gene? Making a claim for political cleansing?

Hey OM, maybe you have the gonads that Oberg lacks? Why don't you
investigate why all the NASA trouble over the past few years appears
to actually be JSC trouble.

First there was the woman who drowned her 4 kids. Her husband worked
for JSC. The shooting by a contractor of his COTR of 10 years, the
love triangle and alledged murder plot, the drunk astronauts. All out
of JSC. Folks like Oberg and others call it a NASA problem when it
really is a JSC problem.

Go ahead, do you have the guts to look into for it for what it is? Or
are you another who will hide because it is happening in your
neighborhood?

Eric

"Eric Chomko" wrote in message
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On Aug 30, 12:25 am, "Hhhhmmmmm....."
wrote:
"john fernbach" wrote in message

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On Aug 22, 9:12 pm, (Rand Simberg)
wrote:

On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 21:57:32 -0400, in a place far, far away,
"Jonathan" made the phosphor on my monitor glow
in such a way as to indicate that:

"Rand Simberg" wrote in message
...

In other words, in geological terms, you have very limited
experience.

Huh! Are you losing your mind?

No, not at all. Are you unfamiliar with the word "geological"? Or
"terms"? Or "limited," or "experience"?

But we all have "very limited experience" in geological terms, Rand.
Unless you're 2 -4 billion years old.

Are you that old, Rand?

Do you have extensive "experience," geologically?

----- why do folks like you insist that your experience of the last, oh,
5
years, 10 years, 50 years, means anything in terms of what you are using
the
information to conclude?


It is both a great and tragic thing. We humans can in a matter months
and years solved the riddles that took 10s of thousands and millions
of years to manifest themselves. Such things related to geology or
astronomy fall into the realm of which I am referring. The tragedy is
that we live on the order of one century which is a blip in time when
dealing with things that are geological and astrological in nature.


------- you are a wise man indeed

On Aug 24, 1:59 am, "Jonathan" wrote:
"Adam Lea" wrote in message

...





"Jonathan" wrote in message
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"Harley" wrote in message
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Just another global warming 'anecdote' that seems to happen
all too regularly these days.

A 15 year spead, and that's all too regular?

In the last three years, we've seen the Atlantichurricane
season break all time records for number of storms, the
lowest pressure ever, the smallest eye ever (2 miles!!!), and
the most destructive ever.

Most of the biggest records have all fallen in the last three years.
And the very firsthurricaneof this season is right up there
with the strongest of all time. It's average size mercilessly

I meant mercifully, that's bugged me all day.





helped spare a large population center.

HurricaneDean hadhurricaneforce winds out to about
60 miles most of the time. While Katrina and Wilma
in 2005 extended out about 100 miles. Making them
much more likely to hit a large population area.

Although last year was a very "boring" season with no US landfalls and at
sea activity supressed by dry air and an El Nino.

Also bear in mind that despite the ferocity of Dean the Atlantic is
experiencing slightly below normal activity for August. There has only
been
one storm so far this month, with the models not predicting anything to
spin
up for the next few days at least.

In another post I documented where the latest predictions
are that global warming should only effect the intensity
and size of hurricanes, not so much their numbers
or distribution.



Cat 5 hurricanes are not unusual

Category 5's are generally unusual. Cat 4 and 5's are
roughly 10% of the total. A US landfalling cat 5 is
one in a hundred. And the US is a big target.

Table 5.Hurricanestrikes on the mainland United States
(1851-2006)http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pdf/NWS-TPC-5.pdf

Category Strikes

5 3
4 18
3 75
2 73
1 110

TOTAL 279
MAJOR 96
Major hurricanes are categories 3,4 & 5.

People down here have pretty much accepted the
idea that global warming has changed things dramatically.
First Katrina opened everyone's minds to the possibility.
But then right after Katrina came Wilma, the lowest
pressure storm of all time. Wilma drove the point home
that Katrina wasn't a fluke. Both storms were also much larger
in size than just about anyotherhurricaneobserved
except for maybe Gilbert in 88. It was only by the grace of god
that Wilma weakened to a cat 3 just hours before landfall
or we would've had another Katrina size tragedy in Florida.

And with FEMA maxed out with Katrina, Florida would've
been on our own for weeks.

The point I'm trying to get across in that we cannot assume
any linear or predictable relationships between global warming
---ocean warming and hurricanes. A slight change in the
input of such a grand complex system can have
dramatic changes in the way the system releases
it's heat through storms...the output.

It's not a nice proportional relationship where x amount
of rise in ocean temps lead to y stronger storms.

It's analogous to cracking a whip.

A seemingly small movement at the input of a non-linear
system can produce the absolute maximum practical response
at the output.

We need to get used to the fact that category 4 or 5 storms
will become the rule rather than the exception. And they'll
be far larger in size as well increasing the chance of hitting
larger population areas. And remember one of most
chilling facts to open eyes down here....

....Katrina and Wilma were too large to evacuation from!!!

When the eye is half the size of a state it's just not possible
to predict the path soon enough to safely evacuate. It's safer
to stay put as your more likely to evacuate into the path
or get caught on the road, the worst case of all.



for the Atlantic during the active phase of
the AMO. It is the steering currents and the environmental conditions that
determine whether they will strike land and at what strength. Dean hit as
a
cat 5 because firstly the SSTs were very warm along its path and the wind
shear was low and secondly it was moving quickly which meant there was
less
interaction of the outer circulation with the land to weaken the storm
before the eye came ashore.

Adam

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