Aether has mass

On Dec 16, 1:55*pm, mpc755 wrote:
On Dec 16, 2:53*pm, Brad Guth wrote:



And the reason(s) why you still have no objective proof as to any of
this aether push gravity is????????

Is Earth also expanding because of the aether influx?

'NASA's Voyager Hits New Region at Solar System Edge'http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2011/dec/HQ_11-402_AGU_Voyager.html

"Voyager is showing that what is outside is pushing back. ... Like
cars piling up at a clogged freeway off-ramp, the increased intensity
of the magnetic field shows that inward pressure from interstellar
space is compacting it."

It is not the particles of matter which exist in quantities less than
in any vacuum artifically created on Earth which are pushing back and
exerting inward pressure toward the solar system.

It is the aether, which the particles of matter exist in, which is the
interstellar medium. It is the aether which is displaced by the matter
the solar system consists of which is pushing back and exerting inward
pressure toward the solar system.

It's true that any vacuum (no matters how hard or otherwise perfect)
also does not offer directionality, as though aether is still pushing
inward from all possible directions. However, the extremely slight
density of the ISM and especially that of the IGM doesn't give aether
all that much average density if it's being so easily displaced by any
cosmic worthy vacuum of less than 0.1 atom/m3.

How does any of that equate as gravity via aether displacement?

Give us your best swag as to the average density of aether.

On Dec 16, 5:38*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

It's true that any vacuum (no matters how hard or otherwise perfect)
also does not offer directionality, as though aether is still pushing
inward from all possible directions. *However, the extremely slight
density of the ISM and especially that of the IGM doesn't give aether
all that much average density if it's being so easily displaced by any
cosmic worthy vacuum of less than 0.1 atom/m3.

How does any of that equate as gravity via aether displacement?

Give us your best swag as to the average density of aether.

'NASA's Voyager Hits New Region at Solar System Edge'
http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2011...U_Voyager.html

"Voyager is showing that what is outside is pushing back. ... Like
cars piling up at a clogged freeway off-ramp, the increased intensity
of the magnetic field shows that inward pressure from interstellar
space is compacting it."

It is not the particles of matter which exist in quantities less than
in any vacuum artifically created on Earth which are pushing back and
exerting inward pressure toward the solar system.

It is the aether, which the particles of matter exist in, which is the
interstellar medium. It is the aether which is displaced by the matter
the solar system consists of which is pushing back and exerting inward
pressure toward the solar system.

The closer to the Earth you get the greater the force associated with
the displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
the Earth.

On Dec 16, 5:38*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

It's true that any vacuum (no matters how hard or otherwise perfect)
also does not offer directionality, as though aether is still pushing
inward from all possible directions. *However, the extremely slight
density of the ISM and especially that of the IGM doesn't give aether
all that much average density if it's being so easily displaced by any
cosmic worthy vacuum of less than 0.1 atom/m3.

How does any of that equate as gravity via aether displacement?

Give us your best swag as to the average density of aether.

'NASA's Voyager Hits New Region at Solar System Edge'
http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2011...U_Voyager.html

"Voyager is showing that what is outside is pushing back. ... Like
cars piling up at a clogged freeway off-ramp, the increased intensity
of the magnetic field shows that inward pressure from interstellar
space is compacting it."

It is not the particles of matter which exist in quantities less than
in any vacuum artifically created on Earth which are pushing back and
exerting inward pressure toward the solar system.

It is the aether, which the particles of matter exist in, which is the
interstellar medium. It is the aether which is displaced by the matter
the solar system consists of which is pushing back and exerting inward
pressure toward the solar system.

The closer to the Earth you get the greater the force associated with
displaced aether pushing back exerting inward pressure toward matter.

On Dec 16, 3:05*pm, mpc755 wrote:
On Dec 16, 5:38*pm, Brad Guth wrote:



It's true that any vacuum (no matters how hard or otherwise perfect)
also does not offer directionality, as though aether is still pushing
inward from all possible directions. *However, the extremely slight
density of the ISM and especially that of the IGM doesn't give aether
all that much average density if it's being so easily displaced by any
cosmic worthy vacuum of less than 0.1 atom/m3.

How does any of that equate as gravity via aether displacement?

Give us your best swag as to the average density of aether.

'NASA's Voyager Hits New Region at Solar System Edge'http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2011/dec/HQ_11-402_AGU_Voyager.html

"Voyager is showing that what is outside is pushing back. ... Like
cars piling up at a clogged freeway off-ramp, the increased intensity
of the magnetic field shows that inward pressure from interstellar
space is compacting it."

It is not the particles of matter which exist in quantities less than
in any vacuum artifically created on Earth which are pushing back and
exerting inward pressure toward the solar system.

It is the aether, which the particles of matter exist in, which is the
interstellar medium. It is the aether which is displaced by the matter
the solar system consists of which is pushing back and exerting inward
pressure toward the solar system.

The closer to the Earth you get the greater the force associated with
displaced aether pushing back exerting inward pressure toward matter.

As soon as you get some solid evidence as to the IGM, ISM and local
density of aether, and that of its directionality of inward force via
its displacement that supposedly represents gravity, we'll be good to
go. In the meantime, the good old fashioned pull of gravity seems to
work out fine and dandy, as with or w/o aether.

On Dec 16, 7:33*pm, Brad Guth wrote:
On Dec 16, 3:05*pm, mpc755 wrote:









On Dec 16, 5:38*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

It's true that any vacuum (no matters how hard or otherwise perfect)
also does not offer directionality, as though aether is still pushing
inward from all possible directions. *However, the extremely slight
density of the ISM and especially that of the IGM doesn't give aether
all that much average density if it's being so easily displaced by any
cosmic worthy vacuum of less than 0.1 atom/m3.

How does any of that equate as gravity via aether displacement?

Give us your best swag as to the average density of aether.

'NASA's Voyager Hits New Region at Solar System Edge'http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2011/dec/HQ_11-402_AGU_Voyager.html

"Voyager is showing that what is outside is pushing back. ... Like
cars piling up at a clogged freeway off-ramp, the increased intensity
of the magnetic field shows that inward pressure from interstellar
space is compacting it."

It is not the particles of matter which exist in quantities less than
in any vacuum artifically created on Earth which are pushing back and
exerting inward pressure toward the solar system.

It is the aether, which the particles of matter exist in, which is the
interstellar medium. It is the aether which is displaced by the matter
the solar system consists of which is pushing back and exerting inward
pressure toward the solar system.

The closer to the Earth you get the greater the force associated with
displaced aether pushing back exerting inward pressure toward matter.

As soon as you get some solid evidence as to the IGM, ISM and local
density of aether, and that of its directionality of inward force via
its displacement that supposedly represents gravity, we'll be good to
go. *In the meantime, the good old fashioned pull of gravity seems to
work out fine and dandy, as with or w/o aether.

The magnetic field piling up detected by Voyager is the displaced
aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward the solar
system.

'NASA's Voyager Hits New Region at Solar System Edge'
http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2011...U_Voyager.html

"Voyager is showing that what is outside is pushing back. ... Like
cars piling up at a clogged freeway off-ramp, the increased intensity
of the magnetic field shows that inward pressure from interstellar
space is compacting it."

It is not the particles of matter which exist in quantities less than
in any vacuum artifically created on Earth which are pushing back and
exerting inward pressure toward the solar system.

It is the aether, which the particles of matter exist in, which is the
interstellar medium. It is the aether which is displaced by the matter
the solar system consists of which is pushing back and exerting inward
pressure toward the solar system.

On Dec 16, 4:37*pm, mpc755 wrote:
On Dec 16, 7:33*pm, Brad Guth wrote:









On Dec 16, 3:05*pm, mpc755 wrote:

On Dec 16, 5:38*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

It's true that any vacuum (no matters how hard or otherwise perfect)
also does not offer directionality, as though aether is still pushing
inward from all possible directions. *However, the extremely slight
density of the ISM and especially that of the IGM doesn't give aether
all that much average density if it's being so easily displaced by any
cosmic worthy vacuum of less than 0.1 atom/m3.

How does any of that equate as gravity via aether displacement?

Give us your best swag as to the average density of aether.

'NASA's Voyager Hits New Region at Solar System Edge'http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2011/dec/HQ_11-402_AGU_Voyager.html

"Voyager is showing that what is outside is pushing back. ... Like
cars piling up at a clogged freeway off-ramp, the increased intensity
of the magnetic field shows that inward pressure from interstellar
space is compacting it."

It is not the particles of matter which exist in quantities less than
in any vacuum artifically created on Earth which are pushing back and
exerting inward pressure toward the solar system.

It is the aether, which the particles of matter exist in, which is the
interstellar medium. It is the aether which is displaced by the matter
the solar system consists of which is pushing back and exerting inward
pressure toward the solar system.

The closer to the Earth you get the greater the force associated with
displaced aether pushing back exerting inward pressure toward matter.

As soon as you get some solid evidence as to the IGM, ISM and local
density of aether, and that of its directionality of inward force via
its displacement that supposedly represents gravity, we'll be good to
go. *In the meantime, the good old fashioned pull of gravity seems to
work out fine and dandy, as with or w/o aether.

The magnetic field piling up detected by Voyager is the displaced
aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward the solar
system.
And that displacement represents how much density/cm3?


'NASA's Voyager Hits New Region at Solar System Edge'http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2011/dec/HQ_11-402_AGU_Voyager.html

"Voyager is showing that what is outside is pushing back. ... Like
cars piling up at a clogged freeway off-ramp, the increased intensity
of the magnetic field shows that inward pressure from interstellar
space is compacting it."

It is not the particles of matter which exist in quantities less than
in any vacuum artifically created on Earth which are pushing back and
exerting inward pressure toward the solar system.

It is the aether, which the particles of matter exist in, which is the
interstellar medium. It is the aether which is displaced by the matter
the solar system consists of which is pushing back and exerting inward
pressure toward the solar system.

That "inward pressure" represents how much density/cm3?

Is that nearly ISM aether density as equivalent interference upon
Voyager equal to 0.1 He atom/cm3?

Voyager-1 is supposedly encountering just 2 particles/cm2/sec while
moving through the outer portions of our solar system at 17 km/sec,
and the aether is causing how much additional pressure?

On Dec 16, 8:13Â*pm, Brad Guth wrote:
On Dec 16, 4:37Â*pm, mpc755 wrote:







On Dec 16, 7:33Â*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

On Dec 16, 3:05Â*pm, mpc755 wrote:

On Dec 16, 5:38Â*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

It's true that any vacuum (no matters how hard or otherwise perfect)
also does not offer directionality, as though aether is still pushing
inward from all possible directions. Â*However, the extremely slight
density of the ISM and especially that of the IGM doesn't give aether
all that much average density if it's being so easily displaced by any
cosmic worthy vacuum of less than 0.1 atom/m3.

How does any of that equate as gravity via aether displacement?

Give us your best swag as to the average density of aether.

'NASA's Voyager Hits New Region at Solar System Edge'http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2011/dec/HQ_11-402_AGU_Voyager.html

"Voyager is showing that what is outside is pushing back. ... Like
cars piling up at a clogged freeway off-ramp, the increased intensity
of the magnetic field shows that inward pressure from interstellar
space is compacting it."

It is not the particles of matter which exist in quantities less than
in any vacuum artifically created on Earth which are pushing back and
exerting inward pressure toward the solar system.

It is the aether, which the particles of matter exist in, which is the
interstellar medium. It is the aether which is displaced by the matter
the solar system consists of which is pushing back and exerting inward
pressure toward the solar system.

The closer to the Earth you get the greater the force associated with
displaced aether pushing back exerting inward pressure toward matter.

On Dec 16, 5:21Â*pm, mpc755 wrote:
On Dec 16, 8:13Â*pm, Brad Guth wrote:









On Dec 16, 4:37Â*pm, mpc755 wrote:

On Dec 16, 7:33Â*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

On Dec 16, 3:05Â*pm, mpc755 wrote:

On Dec 16, 5:38Â*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

It's true that any vacuum (no matters how hard or otherwise perfect)
also does not offer directionality, as though aether is still pushing
inward from all possible directions. Â*However, the extremely slight
density of the ISM and especially that of the IGM doesn't give aether
all that much average density if it's being so easily displaced by any
cosmic worthy vacuum of less than 0.1 atom/m3.

How does any of that equate as gravity via aether displacement?

Give us your best swag as to the average density of aether.

'NASA's Voyager Hits New Region at Solar System Edge'http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2011/dec/HQ_11-402_AGU_Voyager.html

"Voyager is showing that what is outside is pushing back. ... Like
cars piling up at a clogged freeway off-ramp, the increased intensity
of the magnetic field shows that inward pressure from interstellar
space is compacting it."

It is not the particles of matter which exist in quantities less than
in any vacuum artifically created on Earth which are pushing back and
exerting inward pressure toward the solar system.

It is the aether, which the particles of matter exist in, which is the
interstellar medium. It is the aether which is displaced by the matter
the solar system consists of which is pushing back and exerting inward
pressure toward the solar system.

The closer to the Earth you get the greater the force associated with
displaced aether pushing back exerting inward pressure toward matter.

As soon as you get some solid evidence as to the IGM, ISM and local
density of aether, and that of its directionality of inward force via
its displacement that supposedly represents gravity, we'll be good to
go. Â*In the meantime, the good old fashioned pull of gravity seems to
work out fine and dandy, as with or w/o aether.

The magnetic field piling up detected by Voyager is the displaced
aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward the solar
system.

And that displacement represents how much density/cm3?

'NASA's Voyager Hits New Region at Solar System Edge'http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2011/dec/HQ_11-402_AGU_Voyager.html

"Voyager is showing that what is outside is pushing back. ... Like
cars piling up at a clogged freeway off-ramp, the increased intensity
of the magnetic field shows that inward pressure from interstellar
space is compacting it."

It is not the particles of matter which exist in quantities less than
in any vacuum artifically created on Earth which are pushing back and
exerting inward pressure toward the solar system.

It is the aether, which the particles of matter exist in, which is the
interstellar medium. It is the aether which is displaced by the matter
the solar system consists of which is pushing back and exerting inward
pressure toward the solar system.

That "inward pressure" represents how much density/cm3?

Is that nearly ISM aether density as equivalent interference upon
Voyager equal to 0.1 He atom/cm3?

Voyager-1 is supposedly encountering just 2 particles/cm2/sec while
moving through the outer portions of our solar system at 17 km/sec,
and the aether is causing how much additional pressure?

You can read the following articles anytime you choose to.

The following article describes a 'back reaction' associated with the
"fluidic" nature of space itself. This is the displaced aether
'displacing back'.

'An Extended Dynamical Equation of Motion, Phase Dependency and
Inertial Backreaction'http://arxiv.org/abs/1208.3458

"We hypothesize that space itself resists such surges according to a
kind of induction law (related to inertia); additionally, we provide
further evidence of the “fluidic� nature of space itself."

The aether is, or behaves similar to, a superfluid with properties of
a solid, a supersolid, which is described in the article as the
'fluidic' nature of space itself. The 'back-reaction' described in the
article is the displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward
pressure toward the matter.

The following article describes the aether as an incompressible fluid
resulting in what the article refers to as gravitational aether caused
by pressure (or vorticity).

'Phenomenology of Gravitational Aether as a solution to the Old
Cosmological Constant Problem'http://arxiv.org/abs/1106.3955

"One proposal to address this puzzle at the semi-classical level is to
decouple quantum vacuum from space-time geometry via a modification of
gravity that includes an incompressible fluid, known as Gravitational
Aether. In this paper, we discuss classical predictions of this theory
along with its compatibility with cosmological and experimental tests
of gravity. We argue that deviations from General Relativity (GR) in
this theory are sourced by pressure or vorticity."

The following article describes gravity as a pressure exerted by
aether toward matter.

'The aether-modified gravity and the G ̈del metric'http://arxiv.org/pdf/1109.5654v2

"As for the pressure, it is equal to p = 53−αg,6a2 so, it is positive
if αg 3 which is the weaker condition than the previous one. One
notes that the results corresponding to the usual gravity are easily
recovered. Also, it is easy to see that the interval αg 15
corresponds to the usual matter."

The following article describes a gravitating vacuum where aether is
the quantum vacuum of the 21-st century.

'From Analogue Models to Gravitating Vacuum'http://arxiv.org/pdf/1111.1155

"The aether of the 21-st century is the quantum vacuum, which is a new
form of matter. This is the real substance"

In other words, you still have no actual scientific interpretations of
your own.

On Dec 16, 8:24Â*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

In other words, you still have no actual scientific interpretations of
your own.

You asked a question. The following articles answer it.

The following article describes a 'back reaction' associated with the
"fluidic" nature of space itself. This is the displaced aether
'displacing back'.

'An Extended Dynamical Equation of Motion, Phase Dependency and
Inertial Backreaction'
http://arxiv.org/abs/1208.3458

"We hypothesize that space itself resists such surges according to a
kind of induction law (related to inertia); additionally, we provide
further evidence of the “fluidic� nature of space itself."

The aether is, or behaves similar to, a superfluid with properties of
a solid, a supersolid, which is described in the article as the
'fluidic' nature of space itself. The 'back-reaction' described in the
article is the displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward
pressure toward the matter.

The following article describes the aether as an incompressible fluid
resulting in what the article refers to as gravitational aether caused
by pressure (or vorticity).

'Phenomenology of Gravitational Aether as a solution to the Old
Cosmological Constant Problem'
http://arxiv.org/abs/1106.3955

"One proposal to address this puzzle at the semi-classical level is to
decouple quantum vacuum from space-time geometry via a modification of
gravity that includes an incompressible fluid, known as Gravitational
Aether. In this paper, we discuss classical predictions of this theory
along with its compatibility with cosmological and experimental tests
of gravity. We argue that deviations from General Relativity (GR) in
this theory are sourced by pressure or vorticity."

The following article describes gravity as a pressure exerted by
aether toward matter.

'The aether-modified gravity and the G ̈del metric'
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1109.5654v2

"As for the pressure, it is equal to p = 53−αg,6a2 so, it is positive
if αg 3 which is the weaker condition than the previous one. One
notes that the results corresponding to the usual gravity are easily
recovered. Also, it is easy to see that the interval αg 15
corresponds to the usual matter."

The following article describes a gravitating vacuum where aether is
the quantum vacuum of the 21-st century.

'From Analogue Models to Gravitating Vacuum'
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1111.1155

"The aether of the 21-st century is the quantum vacuum, which is a new
form of matter. This is the real substance"

On Dec 16, 5:28Â*pm, mpc755 wrote:
On Dec 16, 8:24Â*pm, Brad Guth wrote:



In other words, you still have no actual scientific interpretations of
your own.

You asked a question. The following articles answer it.

The following article describes a 'back reaction' associated with the
"fluidic" nature of space itself. This is the displaced aether
'displacing back'.

'An Extended Dynamical Equation of Motion, Phase Dependency and
Inertial Backreaction'http://arxiv.org/abs/1208.3458

"We hypothesize that space itself resists such surges according to a
kind of induction law (related to inertia); additionally, we provide
further evidence of the “fluidic� nature of space itself."

The aether is, or behaves similar to, a superfluid with properties of
a solid, a supersolid, which is described in the article as the
'fluidic' nature of space itself. The 'back-reaction' described in the
article is the displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward
pressure toward the matter.

The following article describes the aether as an incompressible fluid
resulting in what the article refers to as gravitational aether caused
by pressure (or vorticity).

'Phenomenology of Gravitational Aether as a solution to the Old
Cosmological Constant Problem'http://arxiv.org/abs/1106.3955

"One proposal to address this puzzle at the semi-classical level is to
decouple quantum vacuum from space-time geometry via a modification of
gravity that includes an incompressible fluid, known as Gravitational
Aether. In this paper, we discuss classical predictions of this theory
along with its compatibility with cosmological and experimental tests
of gravity. We argue that deviations from General Relativity (GR) in
this theory are sourced by pressure or vorticity."

The following article describes gravity as a pressure exerted by
aether toward matter.

'The aether-modified gravity and the G ̈del metric'http://arxiv.org/pdf/1109.5654v2

"As for the pressure, it is equal to p = 53−αg,6a2 so, it is positive
if αg 3 which is the weaker condition than the previous one. One
notes that the results corresponding to the usual gravity are easily
recovered. Also, it is easy to see that the interval αg 15
corresponds to the usual matter."

The following article describes a gravitating vacuum where aether is
the quantum vacuum of the 21-st century.

'From Analogue Models to Gravitating Vacuum'http://arxiv.org/pdf/1111.1155

"The aether of the 21-st century is the quantum vacuum, which is a new
form of matter. This is the real substance"

This stuff is the scientifically subjective interpretations of others
that you don't even wish to parallel along with anything of your own.
Parrot-speak doesn't count.

You need to further extrapolate from the science of others in a way or
method that makes better sense of it all. Instead, all you have to
offer is their version that you've interpreted as aether being
responsible for absolutely everything under the sun, as well as
including the sun.

No doubt that matter came from somewhere and/or via something, and
this matter is likely still arriving into our mostly empty universe,
whereas that incoming flow of aether could even be the quantum medium
that is responsible. Meanwhile, mortal time moves on and human
resources get squandered in all sorts of ways that'll have nothing to
do with aether unless you can make a whole lot better arguments on
behalf of this aether grand unification theory.

What's your personal target goal?

Is there going to ever be a paragraph in K-12 textbooks about your
version of aether and its gravity? (or will others take all the
credit?)