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Old May 25th 07, 10:38 AM posted to sci.geo.geology,sci.anthropology.paleo,sci.archaeology,aus.science,sci.astro
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On 25 mai, 08:43, "Bonzo" wrote:
* "Peter B. P." wrote in messagenews:
...
*
* Bonzo wrote:
* Since increasing atmospheric carbon dioxide levels allegedly
are
* causing
* global warming, the new study must mean that global
temperatures are
* soaring even faster now than they did during the 1990s, right?
* To answer your question, did it occur to you that there is a lag
* between
* the CO2 rise and the warming?
*
* Not according to the warmistas!
* They point to the teenzy weenzy rises during the eighties and
nineties
* and try to correlate it with temperatures during the same period!
*
* Regards
*
* Bonzo
*
* "...and I think future generations are not going to blame us for
* anything except for being silly, for letting a few tenths of a
degree
* panic us"
* Dr. Richard Lindzen, Professor of Meteorology MIT and Member of the
* National Academy of Sciences
*
* "What most commentators-and many scientists-seem to miss is that
the
* only thing we can say with certainly about climate is that it
changes"
* Dr. Richard Lindzen, Professor of Meteorology MIT and Member of the
* National Academy of Sciences
*
* [most of the current alarm over climate change is based on]
"inherently
* untrustworthy climate models, similar to those that cannot
accurately
* forecast the weather a week from now." Dr. Richard Lindzen,
Professor of
* Meteorology MIT and Member of the National Academy of Sciences

Reply to Global Warming denier
**************************************

There is something common in both the pro & con advocates of Global
warming, and this is their complete adhesion to present Geological
Theories ! ... to all of them.
Unfortunetely all are dumb and stupid idiocies ! There was never any
Glaciations etc T. Plates drift etc
So in fact we are seeing fools addressing fools with the same types of
insults hurled at each others !
Really funny from the True Geology point of view

The cyclic variation of temperature in the past millennium are a
reality but the causes of such is due to the fact that the Earth is
not a closed system. Considering these variations and their known
historic repercussion, it is a fact that never such level of pollution
of the environment has reached such extreme as it is now. Never has it
been huge transformation of coal & oil ( exothermic reaction ) to
propel so many tools of any kind, and never has it been so much
population on the Earth.
Is it correct to say that higher level of CO2 pollution of HSO4 gas as
respectively in the Santorin explosion in 1500 BC (approx ) or in the
Lanky explosion in 1784 ( as well as Tambora, Krakatau etc ) Still
although the consequences were terrific and lead to widespread plagues
& famines such pollution subsided in a few years time.
Now things are different as you can appreciate and two elements of
importance must be noted (although you may again question the
causes )
1) Increase in vortex speed in both Tornadoes & Hurricanes indicating
strengthening of the De Coriolis forces
2) Rising of the sea and occurrence of a new form of Tsunami ( which
the True Geology calls Sloshing Tsunamis ) and related to the greatest
amplitude of variation of Earth Axis from nominal value.

It must be noted as well that never the Negroes demographic explosion
of Africa has reached terrific proportion, and the only curve of
progression in these Negroes countries ( poor countries
alternatively ) is the demographic curve. It is a well known fact that
these population are unable to develop their own land, and further
more have throw out the only people who did it until now !!! Huge
famines are to be anticipated since it is clear that that population
vs its resources are on a collision course.

With best regards .

Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
Australia Mining Pioneer
Discoverer of Telfer, Nifty & Kintyre mines in the Great Sandy Desert

Exploration Geologist & Offshore Consultant
Mobile +33 650 171 464
Founder of the True Geology

~ Ignorance is the Cosmic Sin, the One never Forgiven ~

for background info.
http://www.tnet.com.au/~warrigal/grule.html
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/tel/index.html
http://members.iimetro.com.au/~hubbca/turcaud.htm
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/bbing/stories/s28534.htm

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Old May 25th 07, 01:18 PM posted to sci.geo.geology,sci.anthropology.paleo,sci.archaeology,aus.science,sci.astro
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.... and during that time is the situation improving in australia ?
Not at all indeed, as we can discover below.
GOOD §

Australia bracing now for its best MegaFires in a thousand years and
planned for October 14th next.
This is indeed the anniversary date of the discovery of Telfer Mine
( australia largest Gold Mine ) by the Mining Criminals of Newmont /
Newcrest & BHP / Billiton & their Mining Heroes Dr David Start
Tyrwhitt who found that show in a single & most extraordinary
historical flight aboard Newmont / Newcrest jet. Tyrwhitt was alone
and in command hence :
According to the Mining Manure and noted Kangaroo ****ers indeed, and
textually related in the Mining Criminals' official Telfer Mine
History, ( DESERT GOLD ) their Hero Tyrwhitt reports the exact
relation of his discovery :

QUOTE
I spotted the site from the air and landed near by in the Desert to
take samples.
UNQUOTE

.... and of course this is the official version retained by the West
Australia Whorehouse aka West Australia Parliament

Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
**************************

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Ooops, I had forgotten the link. here it is !
************************************************

http://www.theage.com.au/news/nation...601464370.html

ALGAL BLOOM LEAVES TOWNS HIGH AND DRY
Leo Shanahan
May 23, 2007 - 1:34PM

A ttoxic algal bloom has forced authorities to cut normal water
supplies to towns along Victoria's Great Ocean Road, leaving locals
reliant on daily deliveries by water trucks
ETC



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Old May 25th 07, 05:42 PM posted to sci.geo.geology,sci.anthropology.paleo,sci.archaeology,aus.science,sci.astro
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On Fri, 25 May 2007 02:38:49 -0700, sir.jean-paul.turcau wrote:

snipped Turdeme stream from text


The most serious problem facing you Turdy is progressive mania.

I am thankful that I don't live in France, breathing the air polluted by
your own filthy selves plus all of your neighbours and their neighbours.

Have you ever measured the radioactivity of the organic carrots you stick
up your arse? You probably have Chernobyl Colon syndrome.

Australia has been getting drier for millenia, but it certainly has
nothing to do with any of your manic delusional incantations. You profess
to know Australia, then you would know about the refugia populations of
exotic plants found in protected canyons and gullies throughout the
country.

The Riversleigh fossils provide a view of a world not very long ago which
was much wetter than today. So much for your DDD bull****.

You would hate to see the Northern Rivers region of NSW Turdy. It would
shatter your dryness fantasies. Here there is beautiful green countryside,
lush farms of sugar cane, macadamia and coffee plantations, tropical
fruits and more. There are no water restrictions in the region.

By the way, about that stupid ****ing mine. The acknowlegement of the
discovery and ownership of the Telfer mine should rightfully be accorded
to the Aboriginal people. Heck they probably told you about the sacred
mineral site after you got them sozzled on cheap plonk one night around
the camp fire.




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If you are a geologist, global warming must be in your interest.

But how much do you know about it?

The US is big with great paranoid statements, the public loves
them. They say there is 5 years to do something about global
warming or face catastrophic consequences.

How can one invent global cooling when people are free to buy
bigger and bigger cars, buy more and more cars, and the
alternative?

Germany uses 30 percent of all electricity that comes from wind
or solar power. The USA is at 1 percent in that regard. Meaning
nothing toward clean energy. Experts predicted that that 30 percent
of energy coming from clean sources may come in 30 years in
the USA, maybe.

The cars in the USA are growing, buffy SUV-s. But just in the
past month gasoline that a few years ago was $1/gallon is now
$3.50, the highest in history. An SUV that takes 20 gallons or
more on a single fueling now pays $70 when in the past that
figure was $20/fueling. Europeans are used to that 70 Euro
fueling. The average American fuels his car at least once a
week, that makes it $300 a month for gas.

Of course the answer is technology. Not only clean energy is
better for the environment, it makes it better in cars, and the
price of fueling a clean energy car becomes better than gasoline,
the future sees hydrogen fuel injection, no gas tank, and the
fuel comes from the air so quickly that it instantly goes into the
engine, the same engine one sees in cars burning gasoline today.

It is known today that hydrogen burns absolutely identically to
gasoline, it gives the same exact horsepower and is the same
flamable, and the product is clean air (some carbon monoxide).

Electric cars remind of handicapped people and old people
driving golf cars. Burning hydrogen gives the same car, the
same power, the same sound, but not the smell of burning
gas, not the fumes.

Clean energy making is the 21st century, the greatest market
is that 1 percent in the USA today, one that will probably declared
as a goal of reaching 100 percent by 2100, because people and
governments like to play this kinds of things.

Questions: How to make cheap electricity? How to use cheap
electricity in cars (storage) to access hydrogen in the air.
Fueling a car becomes fueling batteries, and future batteries
will be like hard disks in computers today, storing electricity for
a week of driving. No, not by hydrogen fuel cell, but lithium and
stuff, and the size of these batteries will keep shrinking, and
the technologies to access hydrogen in the air will keep improving.

Perpetual mobile, the energy making of the future, defying laws
of nature, energy generated under ground and brought to electric
fuel pumps. Batteries will run home as purchasing electricity
becomes cheaper than relying on the utility companies to run
and maintain electric wires to the homes. A battery will power a
home for a year, then a car comes and charges it. Currently
energy in mass quantities cannot be stored. Utility companies
offer electricity that is generated live by water damns, by nuclear
power plants, by the burning of coal, though water damns are also
clean ways to generate electricity.

Australia has unique geological warms under grounds (you probably
know more about them), there are regions where one does not need
to dig too deeply to reach very hot temperatures, and this can be
used for creating steam for power plants. Australia has this natural
gift for electricity, but I don't know exactly where this phenomena
is located in Australia but I know it is not being taken advantage of.

Cheap devices to generate electricity: An electric generator is
the same as an electric motor, one makes electricity turn a motor,
the other generates electricity from turning a motor. It is the same
electric wiring where rotating electromagnets along wires make
electrons move.

A huge market. The factors today are that solar panels are expensive.
Water damns spoil the environment (disrupt wildlife of fishes
migrating,
etc.). Nuclear power plants horribly entoxicate the environment.
Winds are cool but not available all the time of the year and
windmills
are as tall as half a skyscraper, Germans are already sick of their
sight.

Some people today converted their homes to be independent using
solar panels, but they spent $500000 to go independent of energy.


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On May 25, 10:42 am, "Eduard Groenstein" wrote:
On Fri, 25 May 2007 02:38:49 -0700, sir.jean-paul.turcau wrote:
snipped Turdeme stream from text


The most serious problem facing you Turdy is progressive mania.


Discrimination, crimes against humanity, cyber-terrorism, ku klux
klan.

I am thankful that I don't live in France,


Ku klux klan.

breathing the air polluted by your own filthy selves


Ku klux klan, go back to you big brother.

plus all of your neighbours and their neighbours.


Fascist criminal.

Have you ever measured the radioactivity


Ku klux klan fascist racist.

of the organic carrots you stick up your arse?


Abu Ghraib psychology.

You probably have Chernobyl Colon syndrome.


Crimes against humanity, terrorism.

Australia has been getting drier for millenia, but it certainly has
nothing to do with any of your manic delusional incantations.


Psychotic terrorism, repression, ku klux klan.

Crime in Europe corresponding to 4 years in jail for racism.


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Old May 25th 07, 06:16 PM posted to sci.geo.geology,sci.anthropology.paleo,sci.archaeology,aus.science,sci.astro
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On May 25, 11:16 am, " wrote:
On May 25, 10:42 am, "Eduard Groenstein" wrote:

On Fri, 25 May 2007 02:38:49 -0700, sir.jean-paul.turcau wrote:
snipped Turdeme stream from text


The most serious problem facing you Turdy is progressive mania.


Discrimination, crimes against humanity, cyber-terrorism, ku klux
klan.

I am thankful that I don't live in France,


Ku klux klan.

breathing the air polluted by your own filthy selves


Ku klux klan, go back to you big brother.

plus all of your neighbours and their neighbours.


Fascist criminal.

Have you ever measured the radioactivity


Ku klux klan fascist racist.

of the organic carrots you stick up your arse?


Abu Ghraib psychology.

You probably have Chernobyl Colon syndrome.


Crimes against humanity, terrorism.

Australia has been getting drier for millenia, but it certainly has
nothing to do with any of your manic delusional incantations.


Psychotic terrorism, repression, ku klux klan.

Crime in Europe corresponding to 4 years in jail for racism.


Cyber-terrorist.

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Old May 25th 07, 06:19 PM posted to sci.geo.geology,sci.anthropology.paleo,sci.archaeology,aus.science,sci.astro
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On May 25, 11:16 am, " wrote:
On May 25, 11:16 am, " wrote:





On May 25, 10:42 am, "Eduard Groenstein" wrote:


On Fri, 25 May 2007 02:38:49 -0700, sir.jean-paul.turcau wrote:
snipped Turdeme stream from text


The most serious problem facing you Turdy is progressive mania.


Discrimination, crimes against humanity, cyber-terrorism, ku klux
klan.


I am thankful that I don't live in France,


Ku klux klan.


breathing the air polluted by your own filthy selves


Ku klux klan, go back to you big brother.


plus all of your neighbours and their neighbours.


Fascist criminal.


Have you ever measured the radioactivity


Ku klux klan fascist racist.


of the organic carrots you stick up your arse?


Abu Ghraib psychology.


You probably have Chernobyl Colon syndrome.


Crimes against humanity, terrorism.


Australia has been getting drier for millenia, but it certainly has
nothing to do with any of your manic delusional incantations.


Psychotic terrorism, repression, ku klux klan.


Crime in Europe corresponding to 4 years in jail for racism.


Cyber-terrorist.


Crimes against humanity, supremacy, terrorism, ku klux klan.

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Old May 25th 07, 06:24 PM posted to sci.geo.geology,sci.anthropology.paleo,sci.archaeology,aus.science,sci.astro
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On May 25, 11:19 am, " wrote:
On May 25, 11:16 am, " wrote:





On May 25, 11:16 am, " wrote:


On May 25, 10:42 am, "Eduard Groenstein" wrote:


On Fri, 25 May 2007 02:38:49 -0700, sir.jean-paul.turcau wrote:
snipped Turdeme stream from text


The most serious problem facing you Turdy is progressive mania.


Discrimination, crimes against humanity, cyber-terrorism, ku klux
klan.


I am thankful that I don't live in France,


Ku klux klan.


breathing the air polluted by your own filthy selves


Ku klux klan, go back to you big brother.


plus all of your neighbours and their neighbours.


Fascist criminal.


Have you ever measured the radioactivity


Ku klux klan fascist racist.


of the organic carrots you stick up your arse?


Abu Ghraib psychology.


You probably have Chernobyl Colon syndrome.


Crimes against humanity, terrorism.


Australia has been getting drier for millenia, but it certainly has
nothing to do with any of your manic delusional incantations.


Psychotic terrorism, repression, ku klux klan.


Crime in Europe corresponding to 4 years in jail for racism.


Cyber-terrorist.


Crimes against humanity, supremacy, terrorism, ku klux klan.


If like Bush you think your big gun allows you to be a unilateral
terrorist, you are wrong to think you can evade a crimes against
humanity sentence. You have been sentenced with crimes against
humanity.

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Old May 25th 07, 08:07 PM posted to sci.geo.geology,sci.anthropology.paleo,sci.archaeology,aus.science,sci.astro
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On 25 mai, 19:05, " wrote:
If you are a geologist, global warming must be in your interest.

But how much do you know about it?

The US is big with great paranoid statements, the public loves
them. They say there is 5 years to do something about global
warming or face catastrophic consequences.

How can one invent global cooling when people are free to buy
bigger and bigger cars, buy more and more cars, and the
alternative?

Germany uses 30 percent of all electricity that comes from wind
or solar power. The USA is at 1 percent in that regard. Meaning
nothing toward clean energy. Experts predicted that that 30 percent
of energy coming from clean sources may come in 30 years in
the USA, maybe.

The cars in the USA are growing, buffy SUV-s. But just in the
past month gasoline that a few years ago was $1/gallon is now
$3.50, the highest in history. An SUV that takes 20 gallons or
more on a single fueling now pays $70 when in the past that
figure was $20/fueling. Europeans are used to that 70 Euro
fueling. The average American fuels his car at least once a
week, that makes it $300 a month for gas.

Of course the answer is technology. Not only clean energy is
better for the environment, it makes it better in cars, and the
price of fueling a clean energy car becomes better than gasoline,
the future sees hydrogen fuel injection, no gas tank, and the
fuel comes from the air so quickly that it instantly goes into the
engine, the same engine one sees in cars burning gasoline today.

It is known today that hydrogen burns absolutely identically to
gasoline, it gives the same exact horsepower and is the same
flamable, and the product is clean air (some carbon monoxide).

Electric cars remind of handicapped people and old people
driving golf cars. Burning hydrogen gives the same car, the
same power, the same sound, but not the smell of burning
gas, not the fumes.

Clean energy making is the 21st century, the greatest market
is that 1 percent in the USA today, one that will probably declared
as a goal of reaching 100 percent by 2100, because people and
governments like to play this kinds of things.

Questions: How to make cheap electricity? How to use cheap
electricity in cars (storage) to access hydrogen in the air.
Fueling a car becomes fueling batteries, and future batteries
will be like hard disks in computers today, storing electricity for
a week of driving. No, not by hydrogen fuel cell, but lithium and
stuff, and the size of these batteries will keep shrinking, and
the technologies to access hydrogen in the air will keep improving.

Perpetual mobile, the energy making of the future, defying laws
of nature, energy generated under ground and brought to electric
fuel pumps. Batteries will run home as purchasing electricity
becomes cheaper than relying on the utility companies to run
and maintain electric wires to the homes. A battery will power a
home for a year, then a car comes and charges it. Currently
energy in mass quantities cannot be stored. Utility companies
offer electricity that is generated live by water damns, by nuclear
power plants, by the burning of coal, though water damns are also
clean ways to generate electricity.

Australia has unique geological warms under grounds (you probably
know more about them), there are regions where one does not need
to dig too deeply to reach very hot temperatures, and this can be
used for creating steam for power plants. Australia has this natural
gift for electricity, but I don't know exactly where this phenomena
is located in Australia but I know it is not being taken advantage of.

Cheap devices to generate electricity: An electric generator is
the same as an electric motor, one makes electricity turn a motor,
the other generates electricity from turning a motor. It is the same
electric wiring where rotating electromagnets along wires make
electrons move.

A huge market. The factors today are that solar panels are expensive.
Water damns spoil the environment (disrupt wildlife of fishes
migrating,
etc.). Nuclear power plants horribly entoxicate the environment.
Winds are cool but not available all the time of the year and
windmills
are as tall as half a skyscraper, Germans are already sick of their
sight.

Some people today converted their homes to be independent using
solar panels, but they spent $500000 to go independent of energy.


You comments are interesting since they indicate some concern that
present direction taken in Australia to control Global Warming will
lead nowhere !
In fact Howard & Co want the bread, the butter and the change as
well.

A complete overall of the whole set up is necessary indeed and this
impose kicking the present *******s in power ! Can you do it ?

By the way your consideration regarding electrical generator or
alternator as well as DC or AC motors do not address the issue
regarding wherefrom that energy comes at the first place.
Just like in the True Geology if you fail to put the right questions
( engineering & mechanical questions ) you get the usual superficial
answers. In official Physics there are 4 forces but I am telling you
that there is only one and this the same in Electricity, Magnetism,
Nuclear energy and Gravitation.
How that ?

Easy to understand though, but you are not ready for that indeed !

With best regards

jpturcaud

 




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