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Imagine a 38 foot tall cone with a 22 ft wide base. Hydrogen oxygen powered, with a zero height aerospike engine, built in heat sheild at the base. Spherical oxygen tank up front. Larger hydrogen tank behind. Propellant feeding through a line down the center. A toroidal space around the base, below the hydrogen tank, above the aerospike nozzles, where 12 people sit in their own seat with their own canopy facing outward with 180 degree view of the outside. Each seat in its own cell that connects to a circular halway behind the seat. The seat folds into the floor, in zero gee- making a small cabin. There is is four foot wide column, with a dozen lockers surrounding the propellant feed column. Each astronaut/passenger is equipped with a mechanical counterpressure suit, that doubles as a personal toilet - designed for long duration wearing and can survive a re-entry. The vehicle masses 50 tons loaded at launch. It carries 34 tons of propellant,masses 8 tons empty, and carries 10 tons of useful payload. Final velocity is 4.6 km/sec ideal - and it cost $20 million to build. A fleet of three are built,and with NRE charges $100 million for the fleet, and launch and training center in New Mexico. It boosts at 3 gees straight up and flies to an altitude of 640 km - then falls back to Earth for a soft touchdown and 14 minutes of flight. A pilot, co-pilot, two helpers,and 8 paying passengers. One ship from the fleet fly twice a week, with a 10 day turnaround after each flight. The cost $125,000 per passenger. 4.4 gees are pulled on the re-entry. A typical flight consists of boost after all passengers and crews are loaded, and after boost, there is a 11 minute period where the canopy slides forward, and the acceleration couches extend out of the vehicle for a space walk. Helpers assist passengers who wish to leave their couches and go for a space walk tethere to the vehicle. The space walk period lasts 5 minutes, and costs an extra $25,000. For an extra $50,000 each space-walking passenger can navigate away from the vehicle and execute a 'personal' re-entry and touchdown using their own emergency chute. Passengers keep their suits, and professionally made 2 hour videos describing their adventure from training to touchdown. $100 million per year is earned by the fleet of three vehicles and crew and helper experience are gained - from 100 flights. Four flights are promotional and PR sorts of flights done during Christmas and New Year's week. S2 A larger truncated cone, 54 feet tall, and with a 34 ft wide base, built along the same lines as the stage described above, masses 30 tons empty carries 170 tons of propellant - and the 50 ton upper stage. Built at a cost of $60 million each a fleet of three costs $200 million - including NRE charges and infrastructure upgrades. These vehicles can loft a modified 'cargo' stage to put 10 tons into LEO, or can orbit 12 people, a crew of four and 8 passengers into orbit. This vehicle can stay in space for up to two weeks and people pay $1.25 million each to fly into orbit. Cargo costs $10 million to loft into space, which includes insurance, or $10 million is earned per flight - $1 billion is generated per year from this operation. A single stage 40 passenger ballistic transport is also considered to augment airliner services between points on Earth. S3 A larger truncated cone, 93 feet tall, built along the same lines as the previous two stages, masses 150 tons empty carries 850 tons of propellant and the 250 tons of upper stages. Built at a cost of $240 million each a fleet of three costs $1,000 million - including NRE charges and infrastructure upgrades. These vehicles can loft a modified 'cargo' stage to put 50 tons into LEO, or with a third cargo stage the system can put 10 tons into GEO or 10 tons on a lunar free return trajectory, or 10 tons on an escape trajectory - with return of the vehicle. Also, 12 people, consisting of a crew of four and 8 passengers can be launched into a lunar free return trajectory which includes several orbits of the moon before returning to Earth. No moon landing. A single stage 300 passenger ballistic transport is also considered to augment airliner services between points on Earth - hourly flights between LA and NYC - lasting 12 minutes are maintained by a single vehicle. A militarized version can deploy 240 fully armed troops anywhere in the world in minutes, from US bases. Cargo costs $100 million to loft into space which includes insurance, or $12.5 million per passenger - for a two week journey around the moon. $10 billion is generated per year from this operation. Special costing arrangements are entered into for special ballistic transport services. S4 A larger truncated cone 156 feet tall, built along the same lines as the previous three stages, masses 750 tons empty, carries 4,250 tons of propellant and the 1,250 tons of upper stages. Built at a cost of $960 million each, a fleet of three costs $3.5 billion - including NRE charges and infrstructure upgrades. These vehicles can loft a modified 'cargo' stage that puts 250 tons into LEO, or with a third cargo stage, the system can put 50 tons into GEO, or 50 tons on a lunar free return trajectory, or 50 tons on an escape trajectory - with return of the vehicle. Also, 12 people consisting of a crew of four and 8 passengers can be launched toward the moon to land there and take off - which includes up to 4 days on the lunar surface. Furthermore, 4 people, consisting of all crew,can be launched to mars, aerobrake to land there, and take off to return to Earth - which requires up to two years journey and the use of solar panels to power the vehicle for long duration. Cargo costs $500 million to loft into space which includes insurance, or $62.5 million per passenger - for a two week journey to the moon, including a 4 day stay on the lunar surface. The MMU used throughout the early program is adapted for lunar travel by rocket belt up to 200 miles from the landing point. Mars travel is by special arrangement and costs $2 billion for vehicle lease and operations. Up to $50 billion is earned per year from vehicle operations. S5 A larger booster 3,750 tons empty carries 21,250 tons of propellant and carries 6,250 in payload or upper stages. Built at a cost of $3.4 billion each, a fleet of three cost $12 billion - including NRE charges and infrastructure upgrades. These vehicles loft a modified 'cargo' stage that puts 1,250 tons into LEO, or with a third cargo stage, the system puts 250 tons into GEO, or 250 tons on a lunar free return trajectory, or 250 tons on an escape trajectory - with return of the vehicle. Also, 48 people consisting of a crew of 8 are landed on the and returned to Earth - which includes up to 4 days on the lunar surface. A lunar cargo version may deploy 50 tons on the moon and return 50 tons to Earth, or deploy 110 tons one way returning empty. Furthermore, 14 people, consisting of 8 crew, and 6 passengers may be launched to mars, aerobrake to land there, and take off to return to Earth - which requires up to two years journey and the use of solar panels to power the vehicle for long duration. Up to 50 tons of cargo may be deployed on Mars, or 110 tons one way, with refueling on Mars using local water. Cargo costs $1,500 million to loft into space which includes insurance, or $37.5 million per passenger - for a two week journey to the moon, including a 4 day stay on the lunar surface. The MMU used throughout the early program is adapted for lunar travel by rocket belt up to 200 miles from the landing point. Mars travel is by special arrangement and costs $6 billion for vehicle lease and operations. Up to $150 billion is earned per year from vehicle operations. SPECIAL PAYLOADS - SERVICES 120 ton LEO payload to sun-synch polar orbit is sufficient to carry 24 satellites each massing 5 tons - into a coplanar orbit. 30 launches place 720 satellites into a single constellation which provides a global wireless broadband service, which generates a $150 billion in revenue each year. We offer telecom services, including handsets or datapoints, for $12 per year unlimited global communications. 50 tons in GEO is a proof-of-concept power satellite that collects sunlight with a thin film concentrator over a 2.5 sq km disc of film, 1,785 meters in diameter. The satellite generates 1.4 GW of laser energy to beam to a 2.5 sq km ground station near the launch center to generate 1.4 GW 24/7 The satellite costs $100 million including ground station - and generates $500 million per year when selling power at $0.04 per kWh. We offer power generation services, including ground stations and intertie, for $500 million down and $500 million per year. We build own and operate the facility, buyer obtains all power output. 250 tons in GEO provides full scale power satellite that collects sunlight with thin filmconcentrator over a 25 sq km disc of film 5,640 meters in diameter. The satellite generates 14 GW of laser energy to beam to a large number of small users on the ground anytime the satellite is visible. The satellite costs $700 million including ground stations and genrates $5 billion per year. We build own and operate the facility, buyers obtain recievers in 10 kW increments at a cost of $500 for equipment deposit and $150 per month - for up to 3,625 kWh - with $0.04 per kWh for additional usage. |
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S5 - is 38% smaller than the super-heavy launcher described
elsewhere. Once this system is operational, we are in a position to begin building Super vehicles, the first stage, 38% larger than the S5 - called X5 - for extra - then X6 and X7 - to provide 10,000 tons to the moon and mars and GEO - and 50,000 tons to LEO. With 200GW solar powersats we then rebuild the X stages to operate by laser energy. The X5 becomes the XL-5 - an interplanetary scout craft - capable of moving through interplanetary space with 2,000 sec specific impulse. The X6 becomes the XL6, with similar improvements - project 70,000 tons to the surface of the moon or mars with a two stage craft - using a chemical booster. The X7 - a monstrous 1.4 million tons at lift off - becomes XL7.capable of projecting 1/4 of its lift off weight - 350,000 tons - to the surface of the moon,or mars,or points in the asteroid belt. The XL-7 reproduces in interplanetary space the same shipping capacity we use on Earth to tie the continents together. |
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The monstrous XL-7 spacecraft - deposit 350,000 ton sun orbiting
powersats to orbits within a few milion miles of the solar surface - inside the orbit of Mercury. They also deliver large optical systems throughout interplanetary space. These systems deliver trilions of watts anywhere its needed in the solar system. The XL-7 also delivers super thrusters - that collect and redirect trillions of watts to vaporize controlle amounts of asteroids to which they're attached, and move them throughout the solar system. Once charged,with several million tons of asteroidal materials, these thrusters detach from their payloads and fly back to pickup others. - unassisted - diverting billions of tons of raw materials from the asteroid belt to Earth orbit. The XL-7 alos lifts 500,000 ton remotely controlled factory elements into orbit, meeting the billions of tons of asteroidal materials. Combined with the trillions of watts of laser power - to drive the chemical and mechanical processes aboard these factories - tens of tons of finished goods, food and fiber rain down in response to demand directly to buyers throughout the world. Small spacecraft - ranging in size from FedEx 1 pound packages to the size of large SUVs - propelled by laser powered propulsive skins - provide same hour package delivery to any point on Earth, These vehicles provide one hour transport to any point on Earth. In this way an aerial taxi/package delivery service is implements. This technology also gives common access to orbit - so that people buy large pressure vessels and outfit them with ecologies on orbit, and live in space homes. Billions of space homes orbit - held in place by the asteroidal factories - acting like shepherd moons - and providing goods and services to these homes, as well as providing goods and services to the remaining people on Earth's surface. .. |
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On Aug 15, 11:12 am, wrote:
The monstrous XL-7 spacecraft - deposit 350,000 ton sun orbiting powersats to orbits within a few milion miles of the solar surface - inside the orbit of Mercury. They also deliver large optical systems throughout interplanetary space. These systems deliver trilions of watts anywhere its needed in the solar system. The XL-7 also delivers super thrusters - that collect and redirect trillions of watts to vaporize controlle amounts of asteroids to which they're attached, and move them throughout the solar system. Once charged,with several million tons of asteroidal materials, these thrusters detach from their payloads and fly back to pickup others. - unassisted - diverting billions of tons of raw materials from the asteroid belt to Earth orbit. The XL-7 alos lifts 500,000 ton remotely controlled factory elements into orbit, meeting the billions of tons of asteroidal materials. Combined with the trillions of watts of laser power - to drive the chemical and mechanical processes aboard these factories - tens of tons of finished goods, food and fiber rain down in response to demand directly to buyers throughout the world. Small spacecraft - ranging in size from FedEx 1 pound packages to the size of large SUVs - propelled by laser powered propulsive skins - provide same hour package delivery to any point on Earth, These vehicles provide one hour transport to any point on Earth. In this way an aerial taxi/package delivery service is implements. This technology also gives common access to orbit - so that people buy large pressure vessels and outfit them with ecologies on orbit, and live in space homes. Billions of space homes orbit - held in place by the asteroidal factories - acting like shepherd moons - and providing goods and services to these homes, as well as providing goods and services to the remaining people on Earth's surface. . And within this century puts how much food on the table, houses how many common folks, educates and medically takes care of many, and gives us how much clean energy to affordably get us hard working minions to/from work? How much of our 54 trillion dollar dept (plus compounded interest) is this investment going to pay off, and how soon? Exactly how much trickle up public loot is all of this going to take? (all inclusive and/or birth to grave) I bet you're deathly afraid to say. Are you suggesting a healthy trend of reverse inflation? (say -10%/ year), obviously not. ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth |
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On Aug 16, 9:47*pm, BradGuth wrote:
On Aug 15, 11:12 am, wrote: The monstrous XL-7 spacecraft - deposit 350,000 ton sun orbiting powersats to orbits within a few milion miles of the solar surface - inside the orbit of Mercury. *They also deliver large optical systems throughout interplanetary space. *These systems deliver trilions of watts anywhere its needed in the solar system. The XL-7 also delivers super thrusters - that collect and redirect trillions of watts to vaporize controlle amounts of asteroids to which they're attached, and move them throughout the solar system. *Once charged,with several million tons of asteroidal materials, these thrusters detach from their payloads and fly back to pickup others. - unassisted - *diverting billions of tons of raw materials from the asteroid belt to Earth orbit. The XL-7 alos lifts 500,000 ton remotely controlled factory *elements into orbit, meeting the billions of tons of asteroidal materials. Combined with the trillions of watts of laser power - to drive the chemical and mechanical processes aboard these factories - tens of tons of finished goods, food and fiber rain down in response to demand directly to buyers throughout the world. Small spacecraft - ranging in size from FedEx 1 pound packages to the size of large SUVs - propelled by laser powered propulsive skins - provide same hour package delivery to any point on Earth, These vehicles provide one hour transport to any point on Earth. *In this way an aerial taxi/package delivery service is implements. This technology also gives common access to orbit - so that people buy large pressure vessels and outfit them with ecologies on orbit, and live in space homes. *Billions of space homes orbit - held in place by the asteroidal factories - acting like shepherd moons - and providing goods and services to these homes, as well as providing goods and services to the remaining people on Earth's surface. . And within this century puts how much food on the table, houses how many common folks, educates and medically takes care of many, and gives us how much clean energy to affordably get us hard working minions to/from work? How much of our 54 trillion dollar dept (plus compounded interest) is this investment going to pay off, and how soon? Exactly how much trickle up public loot is all of this going to take? (all inclusive and/or birth to grave) *I bet you're deathly afraid to say. Are you suggesting a healthy trend of reverse inflation? (say -10%/ year), obviously not. * ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - There are 9.5 milion millionaires in the world and collectively they control $38 trillion in liquid assets. They control this much wealth because they were instrumental in CREATING the businesses that allow humanity to generate $66 trillion per year. The challenge of any innovator is to create a business model that gives these folks the possiblity of a positive return on investment. My program does this. Elsewhere I speak to the fact that we have an energy shortage on this planet, and copious amounts of clean fusion energy arriving daily from the sun. Produce solar panels at low cost that allow the production of energy in forms that are easily marketable, and you have a winner. I've achieved that with my coal-to-liquid plants i'm sponsoring around the world. What I have done here Brad is I've taken a slice through my projects from the space launch side. That is, a successful business engages in activities that make money. An unsuccessful business does not. Here I show that the development of a $20 million manned rocket can begin making money today, while larger boosters are developed for it, increasing the revenue earned by the fleet. In the end, the launcher and the power satellites come together - and are expanded upon as we capture asteroids bring them to Earth orbit, and develop them using solar energy. Well before 2020 I will have 52 coal-to-liquid facilities operating throughout the world. Each facility will produce 200,000 b/d - 10 million b/d capacity worldwide. By that time I will begin orbiting solar power satellites to power each of these. Before 2024 all 52 will be powersat augmented, and produce 160 million b/d equivalent - eliminating the need for any other energy source. This will cause a free fall in energy prices, and a radical expansion in the global economy. Simultaneously with this, which I have described to you elsewhere, and you've ignored routinely, I will adapt my low cost method of making solar panels to also making low cost housing, green houses, and barns. A by product of my coal-to-liquid facilities is also ammonia produced from atmospheric nitrogen. Finally, I have already sponsored two projects in Australia to use solar power to desalinate seawater - while keeping the salt and selling it to defray costs. My cost of water is less than $1 per kilo- liter- and costs will decline as this technology expands. Low cost, housing, low cost greenhouses,low cost and abundant water, low cost fertilizer, these are needed and used right now. I have described elsewhere, and in this posting, a communications satellite constellation. Here a large number of satellites, equipped with phased array antennae, paint virtual cells across the face of the Earth, and communicate with one another in space via open optical data links at 20 trillion bits per second. 50 billion channels are opened across the world, using very low cost handsets - to provide telephone, internet, banking and financial services world wide. Microbanking software and secure transactions - permit the development of a global electronic currency which provides all people everywhere a sound basis to save and work and grow. Something the poorest of us have not had access to. All these efforts and more besides are directed toward the development of markets for products made from captured asteroids. The richest fragements of material floating in the solar system, will be returned to Earth orbit, and processed into products for distribution to humanity , on Earth and space. Factories, Farms, Forests will be buil ton orbit, products, food and fiber will be distribute ballistically from orbit by rail gun with GPS guided vehicles. In addition to individual homes and vehicles, large floating cities will be built on orbit from asteroidal materials and deorbited. Powered and heated by laser beam, the cloud cities will float through the skies of Earth. 1 mile in diameter, they will house up to 150,000 people in comfort, and be supplied with food and people will work telerobotically anywhere. Finally, ballistic package delivery and ballistic transport will become common place with the arrival of propulsive skin spacecraft that are powered form lasers in space. These VTOL capable craft will arive in seconds in response to a satellite telephone call and take the users anywhere they wish in minutes, as easily as navigating google Earth by texting the destination into their phone. and the vehcile drops them off and moves on to another user. 200 million vehicles can provide seamless service for 8 billion customers throughout the world. The producition of space homes about the size of space colonies propose in the 1970s - excepting these space homes are owned individually and maintained by robots. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:I...ford_torus.jpg The robots are capable of being built today. They are tele-robots - where folks report to work electronically. For example, right now we have farmers going into their field and growing corn. They tend the corn for everyone - spending a few micro- seconds on the corn you eat, and on the corn I eat. The corn is harvested, processed, transported, stored, and presented for sale. The processing transport and sale take the bulk of the money. The farmer gets very little of it. Now, before space homes, we build a comsat network, and a network of automated laser powered airplanes - like global hawk but cheaper andmore efficient - and folks in green houses grow corn efficiently, and harvest it and process it at the farm, and in response to orders online - corn gets distributed by automated airplanes - in a virtual free market. After asteroidal capture but before space homes, we build a network of super farms on orbit. Farmers skilled in the art of growing corn, grow corn on a massive scale at lower cost for greater income - tele- robotically. the corn gets distributed by GPS guide re-entry vehicle - ordered throgh the same market as before. Now we have space homes. You own your own space home - with sufficient area to grow your own corn. You have a telerobotic farmer - among others - and the farmer reports to your field electronically - just as he did before - except your corn is yours and you pay him as a hired hand. He does this because he makes more money. You do it because you get more corn for the money you pay - and because the quality is improved and its fresher and cleaner. The same analysis shows that you can receive all other services and goods the same way on your space estate. As software is developed to displace workers, and eagerly adopted by both workers and consumers since it increases revenues for labor remaining while reducing work loads increasing output lower costs - space estates become more independent, and the demand for propulsive capacity on these space stations increases - leading to a movement beyond Earth orbit, and ultimately, beyond Sol. . |
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On Aug 17, 6:19 am, wrote:
On Aug 16, 9:47 pm, BradGuth wrote: On Aug 15, 11:12 am, wrote: The monstrous XL-7 spacecraft - deposit 350,000 ton sun orbiting powersats to orbits within a few milion miles of the solar surface - inside the orbit of Mercury. They also deliver large optical systems throughout interplanetary space. These systems deliver trilions of watts anywhere its needed in the solar system. The XL-7 also delivers super thrusters - that collect and redirect trillions of watts to vaporize controlle amounts of asteroids to which they're attached, and move them throughout the solar system. Once charged,with several million tons of asteroidal materials, these thrusters detach from their payloads and fly back to pickup others. - unassisted - diverting billions of tons of raw materials from the asteroid belt to Earth orbit. The XL-7 alos lifts 500,000 ton remotely controlled factory elements into orbit, meeting the billions of tons of asteroidal materials. Combined with the trillions of watts of laser power - to drive the chemical and mechanical processes aboard these factories - tens of tons of finished goods, food and fiber rain down in response to demand directly to buyers throughout the world. Small spacecraft - ranging in size from FedEx 1 pound packages to the size of large SUVs - propelled by laser powered propulsive skins - provide same hour package delivery to any point on Earth, These vehicles provide one hour transport to any point on Earth. In this way an aerial taxi/package delivery service is implements. This technology also gives common access to orbit - so that people buy large pressure vessels and outfit them with ecologies on orbit, and live in space homes. Billions of space homes orbit - held in place by the asteroidal factories - acting like shepherd moons - and providing goods and services to these homes, as well as providing goods and services to the remaining people on Earth's surface. . And within this century puts how much food on the table, houses how many common folks, educates and medically takes care of many, and gives us how much clean energy to affordably get us hard working minions to/from work? How much of our 54 trillion dollar dept (plus compounded interest) is this investment going to pay off, and how soon? Exactly how much trickle up public loot is all of this going to take? (all inclusive and/or birth to grave) I bet you're deathly afraid to say. Are you suggesting a healthy trend of reverse inflation? (say -10%/ year), obviously not. ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - There are 9.5 milion millionaires in the world and collectively they control $38 trillion in liquid assets. They control this much wealth because they were instrumental in CREATING the businesses that allow humanity to generate $66 trillion per year. The challenge of any innovator is to create a business model that gives these folks the possiblity of a positive return on investment. My program does this. Elsewhere I speak to the fact that we have an energy shortage on this planet, and copious amounts of clean fusion energy arriving daily from the sun. Produce solar panels at low cost that allow the production of energy in forms that are easily marketable, and you have a winner. I've achieved that with my coal-to-liquid plants i'm sponsoring around the world. What I have done here Brad is I've taken a slice through my projects from the space launch side. That is, a successful business engages in activities that make money. An unsuccessful business does not. Here I show that the development of a $20 million manned rocket can begin making money today, while larger boosters are developed for it, increasing the revenue earned by the fleet. In the end, the launcher and the power satellites come together - and are expanded upon as we capture asteroids bring them to Earth orbit, and develop them using solar energy. Well before 2020 I will have 52 coal-to-liquid facilities operating throughout the world. Each facility will produce 200,000 b/d - 10 million b/d capacity worldwide. By that time I will begin orbiting solar power satellites to power each of these. Before 2024 all 52 will be powersat augmented, and produce 160 million b/d equivalent - eliminating the need for any other energy source. This will cause a free fall in energy prices, and a radical expansion in the global economy. Simultaneously with this, which I have described to you elsewhere, and you've ignored routinely, I will adapt my low cost method of making solar panels to also making low cost housing, green houses, and barns. A by product of my coal-to-liquid facilities is also ammonia produced from atmospheric nitrogen. Finally, I have already sponsored two projects in Australia to use solar power to desalinate seawater - while keeping the salt and selling it to defray costs. My cost of water is less than $1 per kilo- liter- and costs will decline as this technology expands. Low cost, housing, low cost greenhouses,low cost and abundant water, low cost fertilizer, these are needed and used right now. I have described elsewhere, and in this posting, a communications satellite constellation. Here a large number of satellites, equipped with phased array antennae, paint virtual cells across the face of the Earth, and communicate with one another in space via open optical data links at 20 trillion bits per second. 50 billion channels are opened across the world, using very low cost handsets - to provide telephone, internet, banking and financial services world wide. Microbanking software and secure transactions - permit the development of a global electronic currency which provides all people everywhere a sound basis to save and work and grow. Something the poorest of us have not had access to. All these efforts and more besides are directed toward the development of markets for products made from captured asteroids. The richest fragements of material floating in the solar system, will be returned to Earth orbit, and processed into products for distribution to humanity , on Earth and space. Factories, Farms, Forests will be buil ton orbit, products, food and fiber will be distribute ballistically from orbit by rail gun with GPS guided vehicles. In addition to individual homes and vehicles, large floating cities will be built on orbit from asteroidal materials and deorbited. Powered and heated by laser beam, the cloud cities will float through the skies of Earth. 1 mile in diameter, they will house up to 150,000 people in comfort, and be supplied with food and people will work telerobotically anywhere. Finally, ballistic package delivery and ballistic transport will become common place with the arrival of propulsive skin spacecraft that are powered form lasers in space. These VTOL capable craft will arive in seconds in response to a satellite telephone call and take the users anywhere they wish in minutes, as easily as navigating google Earth by texting the destination into their phone. and the vehcile drops them off and moves on to another user. 200 million vehicles can provide seamless service for 8 billion customers throughout the world. The producition of space homes about the size of space colonies propose in the 1970s - excepting these space homes are owned individually and maintained by robots. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:I..._Stanford_toru... The robots are capable of being built today. They are tele-robots - where folks report to work electronically. For example, right now we have farmers going into their field and growing corn. They tend the corn for everyone - spending a few micro- seconds on the corn you eat, and on the corn I eat. The corn is harvested, processed, transported, stored, and presented for sale. The processing transport and sale take the bulk of the money. The farmer gets very little of it. Now, before space homes, we build a comsat network, and a network of automated laser powered airplanes - like global hawk but cheaper andmore efficient - and folks in green houses grow corn efficiently, and harvest it and process it at the farm, and in response to orders online - corn gets distributed by automated airplanes - in a virtual free market. After asteroidal capture but before space homes, we build a network of super farms on orbit. Farmers skilled in the art of growing corn, grow corn on a massive scale at lower cost for greater income - tele- robotically. the corn gets distributed by GPS guide re-entry vehicle - ordered throgh the same market as before. Now we have space homes. You own your own space home - with sufficient area to grow your own corn. You have a telerobotic farmer - among others - and the farmer reports to your field electronically - just as he did before - except your corn is yours and you pay him as a hired hand. He does this because he makes more money. You do it because you get more corn for the money you pay - and because the quality is improved and its fresher and cleaner. The same analysis shows that you can receive all other services and goods the same way on your space estate. As software is developed to displace workers, and eagerly adopted by both workers and consumers since it increases revenues for labor remaining while reducing work loads increasing output lower costs - space estates become more independent, and the demand for propulsive capacity on these space stations increases - leading to a movement beyond Earth orbit, and ultimately, beyond Sol. . You keep spouting off that the growing population of the rich and powerful would have moral intentions of sharing their trickle-up loot back with the rest of us common village idiots. (I don't think so) You have refused to revise history in order to reflect the truth, thus your plan of action is at best badly skewed and rather unlikely to affordably mature from the very get go, not that everything you have placed on the table is insurmountable. Robotics will not sufficiently replace the hard work of humanity within this century, and of getting ourselves past this century is where we'll likely be paying $100/gallon of fossil or synfuel and $10/ kwhr, all because of folks like yourself that can't get much of anything down to business without it costing us more than any return on investment can muster. We first need to create a plan of action that'll deliver 100 TW worth of mostly renewable and thereby sustainable terrestrial energy that's clean enough and affordable so that it doesn't end up causing wars or otherwise killing us, and secondly we'll need to command and fully utilize the Selene/moon L1, then perhaps onto Venus L2 and of course doing Venus itself. Once we've honestly accomplished our Selene/moon, the LSE-CM/ISS and thereby efficiently extracting precious minerals and raw elements away from the moon for our terrestrial benefit, is when we can move on to bigger and better things. Creating a POOF City at Venus L2 is actually much simpler, safer and affordably doable than any Selene/ moon L1 Clarke Station, but that doesn't by itself improve upon much of anything terrestrial. ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth |
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A new space business
An infrared laser beam originating in space with 650 W/m2 that
illuminates four 20 inch diameter refractory patch with a cooled PV power center - that heats air to drive each of four tilt rotors in an advanced tilt-rotor aircraft http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7147182.html that carries up to 5 tonnes of cargo unpiloted for an unlimited range without refueling. Each 200 GW powersat simultaneously powers 325,000 aircraft in flight, and with loading and unloading and service times,each satellite supports 600,000 aircraft. With 350 mile per hour speeds and 3 hour typical service range, with loading and unloading and service times,operated at 70% loadings - this represents a capacity of 8.4 million tonnes per day. Assuming adequate economic activity requires the delivery of 4 tonnes per person per year (USA per capita excluding fuel and construction meterials) - 10 satellites and 6 million tilt-rotor craft provide adequate cargo capacity for nearly 8 billion people. 1 satellite with 600,000 rotor craft can deliver food clothing and medicine on a regular basis to 3 billion of the poorest on Earth. At $50,000 each for the tilt rotor (in quantity) this translates to $9.6 billion for the satellite and $30 billion for the rotor craft. The nearly $40 bilion spread over 3 billion people and 30 years of service life translates to $0.44 per person per day. Well within the capacity of those folks to pay the shipping charges even today. When one considers the ability of satellite based telerobotics to bring labor opportunities to the world's poorest people, with minimal social disruption, one can see that a few power sats beyond those used to increase the output of coal-to-liquid facilities - very quickly transforms life on Earth. Once the ground based terrestrial solar has been fully populated, the solar panel plants will be converted to the construction of inflatable housing, barns and green houses- as well as thin film gossamer spacecraft - to collect and process solar energy. This combined with the launchers described here will provide continuous improvement in living conditions on Earth by tapping increasing amounts of resources off-world and making them cheaply available to people throughout the world. The amount of liquid capital increases dramatically over this period, since I tapped into it early on to fund the 52 coal to liquid plants. Those cost a total of $8 billion each on average which totals $416 billion - out of the $38,000 billion total held by the world's 9.5 million millionaires. The value of each of these plants will exceed $200 billion when the solar component is completed, and 30% of this will be sold to fund development. This amounts to $70 billion per plant - or $3.64 trillion - another $6.6 trillion is held by newly rich associated with the production of these plants. That combined with increasing economic growth rates due to low cost energy, translates to about $60 trillion held by 20 million people within 12 years of today. At this point the revenue stream from gasoline, jet fuel and diesel fuel sales will be sufficient to carry out solar power satellites, and the development of hydrogen fueled and direct beam powered vehicles along with global wireless internet from space, the development of telerobotics, and telepresence to expand work opportunities, as well as package and passenger delivery by automated laser powered tilt rotor aircraft. A person on a farm in Indonesia, can operate a wireless touchpoint - and arrange credit to order greenhouses, fertilizer, and tele-robots on his or her farm. Robot labor and laser powered equipment provide a dramatic increase in farm output. products are processed and packaged on the farm. then sold over the wireless internet throughout asia and funds received electronically. VTOL tilt rotor aircraft pick up the crops and deliver them directly to consumers. Meanwhile, folks living in a remote village in China, can drive robots in Indonesia and grow coffee say. A person in Sydney or Japan can order estate coffee from a farmer in Indonesia and have it delivered in hours of ordering it. The village inhabitant in china takes his profits and arrange the purchase of an inflatable home, and improved telerobotic setup. He undergoes training on line along with his family, and they expand their range of services. .... |
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A new space business
There's no question that good science and applied technology could
easily save our energy sucking butts. Unfortunately, of those in charge of our private parts and most of our hard earned loot are not about to allow folks like yourself to pass along such terrific benefits or savings, especially not to those outside of whatever they'd accept as being worthy. ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth On Aug 17, 8:16 am, wrote: An infrared laser beam originating in space with 650 W/m2 that illuminates four 20 inch diameter refractory patch with a cooled PV power center - that heats air to drive each of four tilt rotors in an advanced tilt-rotor aircraft http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7147182.html that carries up to 5 tonnes of cargo unpiloted for an unlimited range without refueling. Each 200 GW powersat simultaneously powers 325,000 aircraft in flight, and with loading and unloading and service times,each satellite supports 600,000 aircraft. With 350 mile per hour speeds and 3 hour typical service range, with loading and unloading and service times,operated at 70% loadings - this represents a capacity of 8.4 million tonnes per day. Assuming adequate economic activity requires the delivery of 4 tonnes per person per year (USA per capita excluding fuel and construction meterials) - 10 satellites and 6 million tilt-rotor craft provide adequate cargo capacity for nearly 8 billion people. 1 satellite with 600,000 rotor craft can deliver food clothing and medicine on a regular basis to 3 billion of the poorest on Earth. At $50,000 each for the tilt rotor (in quantity) this translates to $9.6 billion for the satellite and $30 billion for the rotor craft. The nearly $40 bilion spread over 3 billion people and 30 years of service life translates to $0.44 per person per day. Well within the capacity of those folks to pay the shipping charges even today. When one considers the ability of satellite based telerobotics to bring labor opportunities to the world's poorest people, with minimal social disruption, one can see that a few power sats beyond those used to increase the output of coal-to-liquid facilities - very quickly transforms life on Earth. Once the ground based terrestrial solar has been fully populated, the solar panel plants will be converted to the construction of inflatable housing, barns and green houses- as well as thin film gossamer spacecraft - to collect and process solar energy. This combined with the launchers described here will provide continuous improvement in living conditions on Earth by tapping increasing amounts of resources off-world and making them cheaply available to people throughout the world. The amount of liquid capital increases dramatically over this period, since I tapped into it early on to fund the 52 coal to liquid plants. Those cost a total of $8 billion each on average which totals $416 billion - out of the $38,000 billion total held by the world's 9.5 million millionaires. The value of each of these plants will exceed $200 billion when the solar component is completed, and 30% of this will be sold to fund development. This amounts to $70 billion per plant - or $3.64 trillion - another $6.6 trillion is held by newly rich associated with the production of these plants. That combined with increasing economic growth rates due to low cost energy, translates to about $60 trillion held by 20 million people within 12 years of today. At this point the revenue stream from gasoline, jet fuel and diesel fuel sales will be sufficient to carry out solar power satellites, and the development of hydrogen fueled and direct beam powered vehicles along with global wireless internet from space, the development of telerobotics, and telepresence to expand work opportunities, as well as package and passenger delivery by automated laser powered tilt rotor aircraft. A person on a farm in Indonesia, can operate a wireless touchpoint - and arrange credit to order greenhouses, fertilizer, and tele-robots on his or her farm. Robot labor and laser powered equipment provide a dramatic increase in farm output. products are processed and packaged on the farm. then sold over the wireless internet throughout asia and funds received electronically. VTOL tilt rotor aircraft pick up the crops and deliver them directly to consumers. Meanwhile, folks living in a remote village in China, can drive robots in Indonesia and grow coffee say. A person in Sydney or Japan can order estate coffee from a farmer in Indonesia and have it delivered in hours of ordering it. The village inhabitant in china takes his profits and arrange the purchase of an inflatable home, and improved telerobotic setup. He undergoes training on line along with his family, and they expand their range of services. ... |
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You keep spouting off that the growing population of the rich and
powerful would have moral intentions of sharing their trickle-up loot back with the rest of us common village idiots. (I seriously don't think so) You have refused to revise history in order to reflect the truth, thus your plan of action is at best badly skewed and rather unlikely to affordably mature from the very get go, not that everything you have placed on the table is insurmountable. Robotics will not sufficiently replace the hard work of humanity within this century, and of getting ourselves past this century is where we'll likely be paying $100/gallon of fossil or synfuel and $10/ kwhr, all because of folks like yourself that can't get much of anything down to business without it costing us more than any return on investment can muster. We first need to create a viable plan of action that'll deliver 100 TW worth of mostly renewable and thereby sustainable terrestrial energy that's clean enough and affordable so that it doesn't end up causing wars or otherwise killing us, and secondly we'll need to command and fully utilize the Selene/moon L1, then perhaps onto Venus L2 and of course doing Venus itself. Once we've honestly accomplished our Selene/moon, the LSE-CM/ISS and thereby efficiently extracting precious minerals and raw elements away from the moon for our terrestrial benefit, is when we can move ourselves on to bigger and better things. Creating a POOF City at Venus L2 is actually much simpler, safer and more affordably doable than any Selene/moon L1 Clarke Station, but that doesn't by itself improve upon much of anything terrestrial. ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth On Aug 17, 6:19 am, wrote: On Aug 16, 9:47 pm, BradGuth wrote: On Aug 15, 11:12 am, wrote: The monstrous XL-7 spacecraft - deposit 350,000 ton sun orbiting powersats to orbits within a few milion miles of the solar surface - inside the orbit of Mercury. They also deliver large optical systems throughout interplanetary space. These systems deliver trilions of watts anywhere its needed in the solar system. The XL-7 also delivers super thrusters - that collect and redirect trillions of watts to vaporize controlle amounts of asteroids to which they're attached, and move them throughout the solar system. Once charged,with several million tons of asteroidal materials, these thrusters detach from their payloads and fly back to pickup others. - unassisted - diverting billions of tons of raw materials from the asteroid belt to Earth orbit. The XL-7 alos lifts 500,000 ton remotely controlled factory elements into orbit, meeting the billions of tons of asteroidal materials. Combined with the trillions of watts of laser power - to drive the chemical and mechanical processes aboard these factories - tens of tons of finished goods, food and fiber rain down in response to demand directly to buyers throughout the world. Small spacecraft - ranging in size from FedEx 1 pound packages to the size of large SUVs - propelled by laser powered propulsive skins - provide same hour package delivery to any point on Earth, These vehicles provide one hour transport to any point on Earth. In this way an aerial taxi/package delivery service is implements. This technology also gives common access to orbit - so that people buy large pressure vessels and outfit them with ecologies on orbit, and live in space homes. Billions of space homes orbit - held in place by the asteroidal factories - acting like shepherd moons - and providing goods and services to these homes, as well as providing goods and services to the remaining people on Earth's surface. . And within this century puts how much food on the table, houses how many common folks, educates and medically takes care of many, and gives us how much clean energy to affordably get us hard working minions to/from work? How much of our 54 trillion dollar dept (plus compounded interest) is this investment going to pay off, and how soon? Exactly how much trickle up public loot is all of this going to take? (all inclusive and/or birth to grave) I bet you're deathly afraid to say. Are you suggesting a healthy trend of reverse inflation? (say -10%/ year), obviously not. ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - There are 9.5 milion millionaires in the world and collectively they control $38 trillion in liquid assets. They control this much wealth because they were instrumental in CREATING the businesses that allow humanity to generate $66 trillion per year. The challenge of any innovator is to create a business model that gives these folks the possiblity of a positive return on investment. My program does this. Elsewhere I speak to the fact that we have an energy shortage on this planet, and copious amounts of clean fusion energy arriving daily from the sun. Produce solar panels at low cost that allow the production of energy in forms that are easily marketable, and you have a winner. I've achieved that with my coal-to-liquid plants i'm sponsoring around the world. What I have done here Brad is I've taken a slice through my projects from the space launch side. That is, a successful business engages in activities that make money. An unsuccessful business does not. Here I show that the development of a $20 million manned rocket can begin making money today, while larger boosters are developed for it, increasing the revenue earned by the fleet. In the end, the launcher and the power satellites come together - and are expanded upon as we capture asteroids bring them to Earth orbit, and develop them using solar energy. Well before 2020 I will have 52 coal-to-liquid facilities operating throughout the world. Each facility will produce 200,000 b/d - 10 million b/d capacity worldwide. By that time I will begin orbiting solar power satellites to power each of these. Before 2024 all 52 will be powersat augmented, and produce 160 million b/d equivalent - eliminating the need for any other energy source. This will cause a free fall in energy prices, and a radical expansion in the global economy. Simultaneously with this, which I have described to you elsewhere, and you've ignored routinely, I will adapt my low cost method of making solar panels to also making low cost housing, green houses, and barns. A by product of my coal-to-liquid facilities is also ammonia produced from atmospheric nitrogen. Finally, I have already sponsored two projects in Australia to use solar power to desalinate seawater - while keeping the salt and selling it to defray costs. My cost of water is less than $1 per kilo- liter- and costs will decline as this technology expands. Low cost, housing, low cost greenhouses,low cost and abundant water, low cost fertilizer, these are needed and used right now. I have described elsewhere, and in this posting, a communications satellite constellation. Here a large number of satellites, equipped with phased array antennae, paint virtual cells across the face of the Earth, and communicate with one another in space via open optical data links at 20 trillion bits per second. 50 billion channels are opened across the world, using very low cost handsets - to provide telephone, internet, banking and financial services world wide. Microbanking software and secure transactions - permit the development of a global electronic currency which provides all people everywhere a sound basis to save and work and grow. Something the poorest of us have not had access to. All these efforts and more besides are directed toward the development of markets for products made from captured asteroids. The richest fragements of material floating in the solar system, will be returned to Earth orbit, and processed into products for distribution to humanity , on Earth and space. Factories, Farms, Forests will be buil ton orbit, products, food and fiber will be distribute ballistically from orbit by rail gun with GPS guided vehicles. In addition to individual homes and vehicles, large floating cities will be built on orbit from asteroidal materials and deorbited. Powered and heated by laser beam, the cloud cities will float through the skies of Earth. 1 mile in diameter, they will house up to 150,000 people in comfort, and be supplied with food and people will work telerobotically anywhere. Finally, ballistic package delivery and ballistic transport will become common place with the arrival of propulsive skin spacecraft that are powered form lasers in space. These VTOL capable craft will arive in seconds in response to a satellite telephone call and take the users anywhere they wish in minutes, as easily as navigating google Earth by texting the destination into their phone. and the vehcile drops them off and moves on to another user. 200 million vehicles can provide seamless service for 8 billion customers throughout the world. The producition of space homes about the size of space colonies propose in the 1970s - excepting these space homes are owned individually and maintained by robots. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:I..._Stanford_toru... The robots are capable of being built today. They are tele-robots - where folks report to work electronically. For example, right now we have farmers going into their field and growing corn. They tend the corn for everyone - spending a few micro- seconds on the corn you eat, and on the corn I eat. The corn is harvested, processed, transported, stored, and presented for sale. The processing transport and sale take the bulk of the money. The farmer gets very little of it. Now, before space homes, we build a comsat network, and a network of automated laser powered airplanes - like global hawk but cheaper andmore efficient - and folks in green houses grow corn efficiently, and harvest it and process it at the farm, and in response to orders online - corn gets distributed by automated airplanes - in a virtual free market. After asteroidal capture but before space homes, we build a network of super farms on orbit. Farmers skilled in the art of growing corn, grow corn on a massive scale at lower cost for greater income - tele- robotically. the corn gets distributed by GPS guide re-entry vehicle - ordered throgh the same market as before. Now we have space homes. You own your own space home - with sufficient area to grow your own corn. You have a telerobotic farmer - among others - and the farmer reports to your field electronically - just as he did before - except your corn is yours and you pay him as a hired hand. He does this because he makes more money. You do it because you get more corn for the money you pay - and because the quality is improved and its fresher and cleaner. The same analysis shows that you can receive all other services and goods the same way on your space estate. As software is developed to displace workers, and eagerly adopted by both workers and consumers since it increases revenues for labor remaining while reducing work loads increasing output lower costs - space estates become more independent, and the demand for propulsive capacity on these space stations increases - leading to a movement beyond Earth orbit, and ultimately, beyond Sol. . |
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The 9.5 million millionaires present in the world today, along with
the 11.5 million millionaires I will create with my 52 coal-to-liquid facilities, will invest in projects that CREATE wealth - and share a PART of that wealth for use of THEIR capital. Its really rather simple. What is required are engineers and scientists who understand how economics works, and devise systems that operate well within the present economic environment. Any restrictive ideologies that limit the ability of the world's economy to meet the needs of the world's people, will be identified for what it is, and be set aside. Politically I would expect this work in much the same way as the Magna Carta Libertatum in 1215 following the first Barons; war http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barons%27_War which will establish liberty for all, and open the world's market to development unhindered by concerns related to ancient concerns such as 'national security' - such concerns will become increasingly hard for our offspring to understand in the new age where invididual liberty predominates in a secure and safe and prosperous environment. . The V-22 Osprey is a fossil fueled prototype of the vehicle I'm speaking of. 5,000 taken off the structural weight (due to engines being lighter and no fuel) and added to the payload wieght. Structure is largely PET film stabilized by EPS fill on an aluminum frame. . Crew: two - teleoperation channels. Capacity: 24 passengers (seated), 8 passengers (standing) or up to 20,000 pounds of cargo Length: 57 ft 4 in (17.5 m) Rotor diameter: 38 ft 0 in (11.6 m) Wingspan: 46 ft (14 m); 84 ft 7 in (including rotors)) Height: 22 ft 1 in (overall - nacelles vertical) (17 ft 11 in 5.5 m (at top of tailfins)) Disc area: 2,268 ft² (212 m²) Wing area: 301.4 ft² (28 m²) Empty weight: 28,140 lb (15,032 kg) Loaded weight: 47,500 lb (21,500 kg) Max takeoff weight: 60,500 lb (27,400 kg) Powerplant: 2× laser driven shafts 6,150 hp (4,590 kW) each Performance Maximum speed: 275 knots (316 mph, 509 km/h) Cruise speed: 214 knots (246 mph, 396 km/h) at sea level Range: unlimiyrf Ferry range: unlimited Service ceiling 26,000 ft (7,925 m) Rate of climb: 2,320 ft/min (11.8 m/s) Disc loading: 20.9 lb/ft² @ 47,500 lb GW (102.23 kg/m²) Power/mass: 0.259 hp/lb (427 W/kg) Producing 10 vehicles per hour mean each factory produces 87,660 vehicles per year. Three plants operating 12 years produce 3.2 million vehicles. With an all in cost of $25 per worker hour, a $50,000 production cost and a 6 minute produciton cycle implies 20,000 workers per production line - including the entire supply chain. With typical capital expenses and so forth, each plant can be expected to cost $3 billion to set up. With four shifts per factory, 240,000 workers overall. The first 18 months of production would produce sufficient numbers of vehicles to provide basic food, medicine and clothing for 3 billion of the world's poorest people. This capacity combined with services of the global wireless internet, provides the basis to rapidly raise living standards, and expand global markets, to include 3 billion of the poorest, hardest working, people on the planet - raising their living standards from today's level to say double curren USA levels provides a means to CREATE 6 quadrillion dollars - and the basic infrastructure I'm describing sets all that in place - and ultimately costs about 4% of the total created. So, this is well worth the investment. The investment grows richer with increased levels of automation expected over this same period. So, the steps include; 1) 8 solar powered CTL plants, suborbital rocket 2) 44 additional solar powered CTL plants, orbital rocket 3) 660 comsat constellation - financial/banking/comm services, conversion of terrestrial panels to powersat and housing hydrogen fueled supersonic transport 4) powersat adjunct to solar CTL hydrogen sales add on, direct beam powered tilt-rotor factories telerobotics 5) direct beaming to users, tilt-rotor package/passenger svcs. 6) deep space propulsion, sun orbiting power sats, asteroid survey lunar city, mars city 7) retrieval of richest asteroids to earth orbit, teleoperated factories farms and forests on orbit, product delivery direct from orbit 8) cloud nine cities built on orbit, deorbited and inflated to float on earth's skies - powered by laser, supplied from orbit 9) laser rocket development, laser propulsive skin, personal ballistic transport 10) space homes - personal spacehip. This between now and 2030 - |
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