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Green 'drivel' exposed by godfather of global warming James Lovelock
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Green 'drivel' exposed by godfather of global warming James Lovelock
On Jul 27, 9:15*am, Steve wrote:
On 7/27/2012 6:48 AM, wrote: On Jul 26, 12:43 pm, Steve wrote: On Tuesday, July 24, 2012 6:19:01 AM UTC-4, (unknown) wrote: On Jul 22, 12:12 pm, Steve > wrote: I joined this thread with: "The problem with the warming theories, IMO, is the convincing proof may come too late. It's a gamble to ignore or dismiss _any_ potential factors over which we have some control." No, you better go back and look again! *You wrote: "I find this argument both compelling and bothersome. Compelling in its * truth, bothersome in its apparent ideological bias. By using "pet" * terms, one appears to grind their axe on the ideologies of others, and * automatically loses some credibility." "Better to be (or at least appear) neutral, where actual science is * concerned." "The problem with the warming theories, IMO, is the convincing proof may * come too late. It's a gamble to ignore or dismiss _any_ potential * factors over which we have some control." In response to my statement: "It is far more difficult to argue with hypocrites, especially warmingistas whose careers, pastimes and lifestyles require so much * fossil fuel to maintain." Which of course is perfectly valid and not in the least ideological. I suggested that using pet terms (like "warmingsta") made "ones" statements appear ideologically charged. If it appears that way to you, then it's your problem, due to your lack of understanding and lack of intelligence. That response was indeed fueled by your post, but it was a general disdain for derogatory terms used in dialog. Derogatory pet terms are almost always used as an intent to inflame. A warmingista would be viewed less unfavorably were he to practice that which he preaches. He could even avoid being labeled as such. I then pointed out that "convincing proof" _may_ come too late for deniers. A truth that concerns me, since the consequences are global and potentially catastrophically irreversible once a tipping point is reached.. Yet you have a larger CO2 foot print than the world average. If you truly believe that there is a problem, then you should stop to consider that you are not helping to solve it. Interestingly enough, from that point on, you proved that you were in fact an ideological neoconservative (or anti-federalist if you prefer). Your understanding wrt conservatism is very poor. "Neocons," which some call RINOs, are liberals who pretend to be conservatives. Neocons like strong, repressive, centralized governments, as do other liberals. You "anti-federalist" label makes no sense. A true conservative supports rule of law, natural rights, low taxes and limited government. He sees the main purposes of the federal government to be the protection of the States and their citizens from foreign enemies, and the protection of those citizens' natural rights from violations by the federal, state and local governments. Those are simple concepts that nevertheless elude you. As for me, I got lost in your charge, and obviously said too much about how my "concern" over AGW has affected some of my decisions about fuel economy. My decisions would be a lot worse, if I were a denier. Not necessarily. Rest assured, there are skeptics who consistently have smaller footprints than you do. But, rather than acknowledge that, you used my exposure as a point of attack. A faux-green celeb would get media coverage (think photo-op of an actor sitting in a hybrid vehicle) but the truth (about his limos, jets, mansions, pools, etc.) usually is found out, eventually. Your habits are cloaked in obscurity, but you still have much in common with the eco-celebs wrt green hypocrisy. None of you do anything on your own to solve the perceived problem, and want to use the power of government to make others do what you will not. Warmingista is an apt description of all of you. |
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