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Could Global Warming be the Savior of Humanity?
Please look at the following two 'versions' of Earth. One is our past and ...future. Earth 18,000 years ago http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/last_glacial_max.html Earth present day http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/pr...erglacial.html A Brief History of Ice Ages and Warming "Except for two relatively brief interglacial episodes, one peaking about 125,000 years ago (Eemian Interglacial), and the other beginning about 18,000 years ago (Present Interglacial), the Earth has been under siege of ice for the last 160,000 years." The reigning climate pattern is where the Earth spends roughly 100,000 years in a deep ice age, followed by a brief period of some 15 or 20 thousand warmer years where life explodes. The last ice age ended some.....18,000 years ago....btw. As far as I know, there's no good explanation for this ice age cycle. Which would imply....strongly imply.. the cause is some as yet unknown astronomical change. So when this occurs some century soon, humanity needs to be ready, and have the ability to quickly and effectively respond...one way of the other. Regardless if the future is too warm, or too cold. This leads me to what might seem like a contradiction. I don't believe the current climate change is such a menace to our future, all things considered. But I do agree that the world should collectively begin gaining the ability to manage the biosphere. Which requires the nations of the world to be able to manage..themselves..first. The answer to climate change is...social change. World-wide freedom and democracy! Climate change will cause the extinction of the ...dictatorships of the world. And to our great benefit! Imho! Jonathan Global Warming a Chilling Perspective http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/ice_ages.html |
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So, if you're in a loosing situation, like falling from high place
without a parachute, realize that it could be a good thing. At least, this will keep your mind busy, until you hit the ground. On Jan 17, 5:00*pm, "Jonathan" wrote: Please look at the following two 'versions' of Earth. One is our past and ...future. Earth 18,000 years agohttp://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/last_glacial_max.html Earth present dayhttp://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/present_interglacial.html A Brief History of Ice Ages and Warming "Except for two relatively brief interglacial episodes, one peaking about 125,000 years ago (Eemian Interglacial), and the other beginning about 18,000 years ago (Present Interglacial), the Earth has been under siege of ice for the last 160,000 years." The reigning climate pattern is where the Earth spends roughly 100,000 years in a deep ice age, followed by a brief period of some 15 or 20 thousand warmer years where life explodes. The last ice age ended some.....18,000 years ago....btw. As far as I know, there's no good explanation for this ice age cycle. Which would imply....strongly imply.. the cause is some as yet unknown astronomical change. So when this occurs some century soon, humanity needs to be ready, and have the ability to quickly and effectively respond...one way of the other. *Regardless if the future is too warm, or too cold. This leads me to what might seem like a contradiction. I don't believe the current climate change is such a menace to our future, all things considered. But I do agree that the world should collectively begin gaining the ability to manage the biosphere. Which requires the nations of the world to be able to manage..themselves..first. The answer to climate change is...social change. World-wide freedom and democracy! Climate change will cause the extinction of the ...dictatorships of the world. And to our great benefit! Imho! Jonathan Global Warming a Chilling Perspectivehttp://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/ice_ages.html |
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Could Global Warming be the Savior of Humanity?
"Roger Coppock" wrote in message ... So, if you're in a loosing situation, like falling from high place without a parachute, realize that it could be a good thing. At least, this will keep your mind busy, until you hit the ground. You only read the subject line, right ~ |
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On Jan 17, 6:00*pm, "Jonathan" wrote:
"Roger Coppock" wrote in message ... So, if you're in a loosing situation, like falling from high place without a parachute, realize that it could be a good thing. *At least, this will keep your mind busy, until you hit the ground. You only read the subject line, right ~ "people tend to make the best of something they know is bound to happen" The Psychology of Inevitability George Bernard Shaw was hard hit by his father's alcoholism, but he tried to make light of it. He once wrote: "If you cannot get rid of the family skeleton, you may as well make it dance." In a sense, dissonance theory describes the ways people have of making their skeletons dance—of trying to live with unpleasant outcomes. This is particularly true when a situation arises that is both negative and inevitable. Here people attempt to make the best of things by cognitively minimizing the unpleasantness of the situation. In one experiment, Jack Brehm got children to volunteer to eat a vegetable they had previously said they disliked a lot. After they had eaten the vegetable, the experimenter led half of the children to believe they could expect to eat much more of that vegetable in the future; the remaining children were not so informed. The children who were led to believe it was inevitable that they would be eating the vegetable in the future succeeded in convincing themselves that the vegetable was not so bad. In short, the cognition "I dislike that vegetable" is dissonant with the cognition "I will be eating that vegetable in the future." In order to reduce the dissonance, the children came to believe the vegetable was really not as noxious as they had previously thought. John Darley and Ellen Berscheid showed that the same phenomenon works with people as well as vegetables. In their experiment, college women volunteered to participate in a series of meetings in which each student would be discussing her sexual behavior and sexual standards with another woman whom she didn't know. Before beginning these discussion sessions, each participant was given two folders. Each folder contained a personality description of a young woman who had supposedly volunteered for the same experience; the descriptions contained a mixture of pleasant and unpleasant characteristics. Half of the participants were led to believe they were going to interact with the young women described in folder A, and the remaining participants were led to believe they were going to interact with the one described in folder B. Before actually meeting these women, the participants were asked to evaluate each of them on the basis of the personality descriptions they had read. Those who felt it was inevitable that they were going to share their intimate secrets with the young woman described in folder A found her much more appealing than the one described in folder B, whereas those who believed they had to interact with the young woman described in folder B found her much more appealing. Just as with vegetables, inevitability makes the heart grow fonder. The knowledge that one is inevitably going to be spending time with another person enhances the positive aspects of that person—or at least deemphasizes his or her negative aspects. In short, people tend to make the best of something they know is bound to happen. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0716733129/ An Example from the Civil Rights decades; http://groups.google.com/group/alt.p...81e9ae3bd4cc5e |
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On Jan 17, 10:40*pm, Immortalist wrote:
On Jan 17, 6:00*pm, "Jonathan" wrote: "Roger Coppock" wrote in message .... So, if you're in a loosing situation, like falling from high place without a parachute, realize that it could be a good thing. *At least, this will keep your mind busy, until you hit the ground. You only read the subject line, right ~ "people tend to make the best of something they know is bound to happen" The Psychology of Inevitability George Bernard Shaw was hard hit by his father's alcoholism, but he tried to make light of it. He once wrote: "If you cannot get rid of the family skeleton, you may as well make it dance." In a sense, dissonance theory describes the ways people have of making their skeletons dance—of trying to live with unpleasant outcomes. This is particularly true when a situation arises that is both negative and inevitable. Here people attempt to make the best of things by cognitively minimizing the unpleasantness of the situation. In one experiment, Jack Brehm got children to volunteer to eat a vegetable they had previously said they disliked a lot. After they had eaten the vegetable, the experimenter led half of the children to believe they could expect to eat much more of that vegetable in the future; the remaining children were not so informed. The children who were led to believe it was inevitable that they would be eating the vegetable in the future succeeded in convincing themselves that the vegetable was not so bad. In short, the cognition "I dislike that vegetable" is dissonant with the cognition "I will be eating that vegetable in the future." In order to reduce the dissonance, the children came to believe the vegetable was really not as noxious as they had previously thought. John Darley and Ellen Berscheid showed that the same phenomenon works with people as well as vegetables. In their experiment, college women volunteered to participate in a series of meetings in which each student would be discussing her sexual behavior and sexual standards with another woman whom she didn't know. Before beginning these discussion sessions, each participant was given two folders. Each folder contained a personality description of a young woman who had supposedly volunteered for the same experience; the descriptions contained a mixture of pleasant and unpleasant characteristics. Half of the participants were led to believe they were going to interact with the young women described in folder A, and the remaining participants were led to believe they were going to interact with the one described in folder B. Before actually meeting these women, the participants were asked to evaluate each of them on the basis of the personality descriptions they had read. Those who felt it was inevitable that they were going to share their intimate secrets with the young woman described in folder A found her much more appealing than the one described in folder B, whereas those who believed they had to interact with the young woman described in folder B found her much more appealing. Just as with vegetables, inevitability makes the heart grow fonder. The knowledge that one is inevitably going to be spending time with another person enhances the positive aspects of that person—or at least deemphasizes his or her negative aspects. In short, people tend to make the best of something they know is bound to happen. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0716733129/ An Example from the Civil Rights decades;http://groups.google.com/group/alt.p...81e9ae3bd4cc5e But what does all this mean philosophically? So, we lick this energy crisis. What next? Our time remains limited, though we stretch it out as much as possible. so, we get to survive another 100 years...or a thousand...or ten thousand. It remains inevitable that someday, humanity will be looking at it's last day of existence. Or is this wrong thinking? It seems to me we only get a "MOMENT" here...though that moment is not defined exactly [days, years, or tens of thousands of years?]. But a moment is still...only momentary. Does this not change our philosophical purview of things? How does any creature make the BEST of their moment? By spending it trying to stretch it out? Perhaps. No one wants to die. It's just a question I have; perhaps a rehash of the grasshopper versus the ant conundrum? An old book title written by Robert Heinlein always stuck in my head, "Time Enough for Love". Not sure if it is applicable, but makes me think nonetheless. |
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On Jan 18, 7:26*am, tooly wrote:
On Jan 17, 10:40*pm, Immortalist wrote: On Jan 17, 6:00*pm, "Jonathan" wrote: "Roger Coppock" wrote in message .... So, if you're in a loosing situation, like falling from high place without a parachute, realize that it could be a good thing. *At least, this will keep your mind busy, until you hit the ground. You only read the subject line, right ~ "people tend to make the best of something they know is bound to happen" The Psychology of Inevitability George Bernard Shaw was hard hit by his father's alcoholism, but he tried to make light of it. He once wrote: "If you cannot get rid of the family skeleton, you may as well make it dance." In a sense, dissonance theory describes the ways people have of making their skeletons dance—of trying to live with unpleasant outcomes. This is particularly true when a situation arises that is both negative and inevitable. Here people attempt to make the best of things by cognitively minimizing the unpleasantness of the situation. In one experiment, Jack Brehm got children to volunteer to eat a vegetable they had previously said they disliked a lot. After they had eaten the vegetable, the experimenter led half of the children to believe they could expect to eat much more of that vegetable in the future; the remaining children were not so informed. The children who were led to believe it was inevitable that they would be eating the vegetable in the future succeeded in convincing themselves that the vegetable was not so bad. In short, the cognition "I dislike that vegetable" is dissonant with the cognition "I will be eating that vegetable in the future." In order to reduce the dissonance, the children came to believe the vegetable was really not as noxious as they had previously thought. John Darley and Ellen Berscheid showed that the same phenomenon works with people as well as vegetables. In their experiment, college women volunteered to participate in a series of meetings in which each student would be discussing her sexual behavior and sexual standards with another woman whom she didn't know. Before beginning these discussion sessions, each participant was given two folders. Each folder contained a personality description of a young woman who had supposedly volunteered for the same experience; the descriptions contained a mixture of pleasant and unpleasant characteristics. Half of the participants were led to believe they were going to interact with the young women described in folder A, and the remaining participants were led to believe they were going to interact with the one described in folder B. Before actually meeting these women, the participants were asked to evaluate each of them on the basis of the personality descriptions they had read. Those who felt it was inevitable that they were going to share their intimate secrets with the young woman described in folder A found her much more appealing than the one described in folder B, whereas those who believed they had to interact with the young woman described in folder B found her much more appealing. Just as with vegetables, inevitability makes the heart grow fonder. The knowledge that one is inevitably going to be spending time with another person enhances the positive aspects of that person—or at least deemphasizes his or her negative aspects. In short, people tend to make the best of something they know is bound to happen. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0716733129/ An Example from the Civil Rights decades;http://groups.google.com/group/alt.p...81e9ae3bd4cc5e But what does all this mean philosophically? *So, we lick this energy crisis. *What next? *Our time remains limited, though we stretch it out as much as possible. *so, we get to survive another 100 years...or a thousand...or ten thousand. *It remains inevitable that someday, humanity will be looking at it's last day of existence. *Or is this wrong thinking? It seems to me we only get a "MOMENT" here...though that moment is not defined exactly [days, years, or tens of thousands of years?]. *But a moment is still...only momentary. Does this not change our philosophical purview of things? *How does any creature make the BEST of their moment? * I think it would be in ethics, an analysis of how we turn problems into blessings or something. So many times after a catastrophe we learn so many things. By spending it trying to stretch it out? *Perhaps. *No one wants to die. *It's just a question I have; perhaps a rehash of the grasshopper versus the ant conundrum? An old book title written by Robert Heinlein always stuck in my head, "Time Enough for Love". *Not sure if it is applicable, but makes me think nonetheless. If it is possible to make resurrection machines humans will probably discover how to build them and we will complain about to many millions of years "for love" we have. What if people came to worry about having to live to -Long-? An embarrassing page I made back in 1995. http://reanimater.tripod.com/ |
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Could Global Warming be the Savior of Humanity?
In alt.philosophy Roger Coppock wrote:
So, if you're in a loosing situation, like falling from high place without a parachute, realize that it could be a good thing. At least, this will keep your mind busy, until you hit the ground. .... It's part of the bargaining phase. -- [pain trumps unconsciousness:] In your ER apparently you treat gallstones before asystole. It depends upon how long the asystole state has been, doesn't it. -- John Stafford , 08 Dec 2010 14:39:38 -0600 |
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Could Global Warming be the Savior of Humanity?
So, if you're in a loosing situation,
Also known as the news: "THE SKY IS FALLING!!!" like falling from high place Like a white castle. without a parachute, Or a government grant. realize that it could be a good thing. Nothing is good. Taking a crap is evil on the earth. *At least, this will keep your mind busy, until you hit the ground. Don't worry, they'll always be a global crisis to gloat over. It's part of the bargaining phase. We're all gonna die one day. Get over it already? |
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Could Global Warming be the Savior of Humanity?
Woger Coppock wrote:
So, if you're in a loosing situation, like falling from high place without a parachute, realize that it could be a good thing. At least, this will keep your mind busy, until you hit the ground. Or, if you'we standing safe in youw back yawd, and some jumped-up buffoon tells you you'we falling, wealize that you'we being lied to by some simple minded fwuitcake. That's you, Woger. -- ): "I may make you feel, but I can't make you think" (: Off the monitor, through the modem, nothing but net |
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On Jan 17, 8:58*pm, Roger Coppock wrote:
So, if you're in a loosing situation, like falling from high place without a parachute, realize that it could be a good thing. *At least, this will keep your mind busy, until you hit the ground. On Jan 17, 5:00*pm, "Jonathan" wrote: Please look at the following two 'versions' of Earth. One is our past and ...future. Earth 18,000 years agohttp://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/last_glacial_max.html Earth present dayhttp://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/present_interglacial..html A Brief History of Ice Ages and Warming "Except for two relatively brief interglacial episodes, one peaking about 125,000 years ago (Eemian Interglacial), and the other beginning about 18,000 years ago (Present Interglacial), the Earth has been under siege of ice for the last 160,000 years." The reigning climate pattern is where the Earth spends roughly 100,000 years in a deep ice age, followed by a brief period of some 15 or 20 thousand warmer years where life explodes. The last ice age ended some.....18,000 years ago....btw. As far as I know, there's no good explanation for this ice age cycle. Which would imply....strongly imply.. the cause is some as yet unknown astronomical change. So when this occurs some century soon, humanity needs to be ready, and have the ability to quickly and effectively respond...one way of the other. *Regardless if the future is too warm, or too cold. This leads me to what might seem like a contradiction. I don't believe the current climate change is such a menace to our future, all things considered. But I do agree that the world should collectively begin gaining the ability to manage the biosphere. Which requires the nations of the world to be able to manage..themselves..first. The answer to climate change is...social change. World-wide freedom and democracy! Climate change will cause the extinction of the ...dictatorships of the world. And to our great benefit! Imho! Jonathan Global Warming a Chilling Perspectivehttp://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/ice_ages.html- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And Roger Coppock moves from third place up to second place in the Bad Analogy Championships. Keep up the "good work." |
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