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Old February 14th 18, 08:17 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Tue, 13 Feb 2018 21:12:00 -0800 (PST), Quadibloc
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Our current task, in the post-9/11 era, is to make this a reality

in the
Islamic world so that non-Muslim minorities are protected there.


Not just non-Muslim minorities but also Muslim minorities, such as
Shia Muslims in a Sunni Muslim country, or Sufis in both Sunni and
Shia Muslim countries. And then we also have the conflict between
Hindus and Muslims in India and Pakistan...
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On Wednesday, February 14, 2018 at 11:17:21 AM UTC-8, Paul Schlyter wrote:
On Tue, 13 Feb 2018 21:12:00 -0800 (PST), Quadibloc
wrote:
Our current task, in the post-9/11 era, is to make this a reality

in the
Islamic world so that non-Muslim minorities are protected there.


Not just non-Muslim minorities but also Muslim minorities, such as
Shia Muslims in a Sunni Muslim country, or Sufis in both Sunni and
Shia Muslim countries. And then we also have the conflict between
Hindus and Muslims in India and Pakistan...


Gee, if it weren't for religion, just think about how much more overpopulated this world would be...
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Old February 15th 18, 08:24 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Wednesday, 14 February 2018 22:51:07 UTC+1, palsing wrote:

Gee, if it weren't for religion, just think about how much more overpopulated this world would be...


Do the deaths outweigh the cultural exhortations to have large families?

Sometimes, the difference between peoples seems almost like the difference [expected] between alien races.

And I'm not talking about black and white. I'm talking about accepted [human?] behaviour.

Do animal species show such huge variations in behaviour?

Or is it a matter of cultural development? Or total absence of the same?
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On Wednesday, 14 February 2018 01:41:10 UTC-5, Chris.B wrote:
On Wednesday, 14 February 2018 06:37:52 UTC+1, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Tue, 13 Feb 2018 21:12:00 -0800 (PST), Quadibloc
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That the whole sad history of the Inquisition leads many to believe that the
First Amendment is the only right way - churches should be private
associations of people sharing certain personal beliefs, not having the
ability to make and enforce laws on everyone else - does not at all seem
unreasonable to me.


Nor to be exempt from any secular law, however. There's no difference
between a church and any other club.

Our current task, in the post-9/11 era, is to make this a reality in the
Islamic world so that non-Muslim minorities are protected there.


That will only happen with the loss of theocracies. After all, the
history of Christian brutality far exceeds anything we see in the
Muslim world. What fixed it? Secular government.

You give the religious political control, you're handing everything
over to dogma. And religious or secular, dogma turns into despotism.


Despotism is the failure to guard against the inadequate being allowed to rule well above their pay grade.


Some of the greatest intellectuals emad great despots. Marx, Lenin, neither were idiots.
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On Wednesday, 14 February 2018 14:17:21 UTC-5, Paul Schlyter wrote:
On Tue, 13 Feb 2018 21:12:00 -0800 (PST), Quadibloc
wrote:
Our current task, in the post-9/11 era, is to make this a reality

in the
Islamic world so that non-Muslim minorities are protected there.


Not just non-Muslim minorities but also Muslim minorities, such as
Shia Muslims in a Sunni Muslim country, or Sufis in both Sunni and
Shia Muslim countries. And then we also have the conflict between
Hindus and Muslims in India and Pakistan...


Good point since that is what is driving the strife in those countries. Backward, 5th century tribalism.
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Old February 17th 18, 07:42 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Saturday, 17 February 2018 03:03:47 UTC+1, RichA wrote:

Despotism is the failure to guard against the inadequate being allowed to rule well above their pay grade.


Some of the greatest intellectuals made great despots. Marx, Lenin, neither were idiots.


"Inadequate" and "idiot" are two very different words and have very different meanings. Idealistic communism might seem to offer a benign sharing of wealth and production. But has _always_ been hijacked by psychopaths. Just as has has _every other_ means of social control and organization of the people and its wealth. Control [of others] is as attractive as a black hole for sociopathic, social inadequates. Their needs always exceed that of every other. If they can't get their own way they will destroy everything within their power and range.
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On Saturday, 17 February 2018 01:42:38 UTC-5, Chris.B wrote:
On Saturday, 17 February 2018 03:03:47 UTC+1, RichA wrote:

Despotism is the failure to guard against the inadequate being allowed to rule well above their pay grade.


Some of the greatest intellectuals made great despots. Marx, Lenin, neither were idiots.


"Inadequate" and "idiot" are two very different words and have very different meanings. Idealistic communism might seem to offer a benign sharing of wealth and production. But has _always_ been hijacked by psychopaths.


Nonsense. There IS no benign communism or "communism with a human face."
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Old February 18th 18, 01:11 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 18:03:44 -0800 (PST), RichA
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Some of the greatest intellectuals emad great despots. Marx, Lenin, neither were idiots.


Marx wasn't a despot. And Lenin wasn't much of an intellectual.
 




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