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Old May 5th 10, 10:28 PM posted to sci.space.policy
Frogwatch
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To get rid of the oil spill, why not evaporate it by pointing curved
mirrors on barges onto it. This would concentrate sunlight, not focus
but "concentrate" causing it to evaporate quickly. such mirrors could
be made from simple curved sheets of aluminum or even by inflating
cylinders that are silvered on one half and transparent on the other.
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Old May 5th 10, 10:33 PM posted to sci.space.policy
Wayne Throop
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: Frogwatch
: To get rid of the oil spill, why not evaporate it by pointing curved
: mirrors on barges onto it. This would concentrate sunlight, not focus
: but "concentrate" causing it to evaporate quickly. such mirrors could
: be made from simple curved sheets of aluminum or even by inflating
: cylinders that are silvered on one half and transparent on the other.

Ooh, just like refining, only uncontained!
Fill the atmosphere over the gulf with (essentially) gasoline vapors.
I love this plan!

"Who could have predicted a harmless gasoline fight
could end in tragedy?"
--- Derek Zoolander


Wayne Throop http://sheol.org/throopw
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Old May 6th 10, 12:19 AM posted to sci.space.policy
Frogwatch
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On May 5, 2:33*pm, (Wayne Throop) wrote:
: Frogwatch
: To get rid of the oil spill, why not evaporate it by pointing curved
: mirrors on barges onto it. *This would concentrate sunlight, not focus
: but "concentrate" causing it to evaporate quickly. *such mirrors could
: be made from simple curved sheets of aluminum or even by inflating
: cylinders that are silvered on one half and transparent on the other.

Ooh, just like refining, only uncontained!
Fill the atmosphere over the gulf with (essentially) gasoline vapors.
I love this plan!

* * "Who could have predicted a harmless gasoline fight
* * * * * * could end in tragedy?"
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --- Derek Zoolander

Wayne Throop * *http://sheol.org/throopw


exactly what happens anyway as it normally evaporates. With the right
catalyst, the vapor could be gathered and used to power a self powered
boom system that not only orients itself toward the sun but powers
into the spill.
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Old May 6th 10, 01:26 AM posted to sci.space.policy
me[_5_]
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Default evaporate it

On Wed, 5 May 2010 16:19:46 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On May 5, 2:33*pm, (Wayne Throop) wrote:
: Frogwatch
: To get rid of the oil spill, why not evaporate it by pointing curved
: mirrors on barges onto it. *This would concentrate sunlight, not focus
: but "concentrate" causing it to evaporate quickly. *such mirrors could
: be made from simple curved sheets of aluminum or even by inflating
: cylinders that are silvered on one half and transparent on the other.

Ooh, just like refining, only uncontained!
Fill the atmosphere over the gulf with (essentially) gasoline vapors.
I love this plan!

* * "Who could have predicted a harmless gasoline fight
* * * * * * could end in tragedy?"
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --- Derek Zoolander

Wayne Throop * *http://sheol.org/throopw


exactly what happens anyway as it normally evaporates. With the right
catalyst, the vapor could be gathered and used to power a self powered
boom system that not only orients itself toward the sun but powers
into the spill.


How about doing some real engineering in regards to your idea, instead
of just thinking sh*t up. Let's see acouple of pages of a real
proposal.
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Old May 6th 10, 02:28 AM posted to sci.space.policy
LSMFT
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Frogwatch wrote:
To get rid of the oil spill, why not evaporate it by pointing curved
mirrors on barges onto it. This would concentrate sunlight, not focus
but "concentrate" causing it to evaporate quickly. such mirrors could
be made from simple curved sheets of aluminum or even by inflating
cylinders that are silvered on one half and transparent on the other.


How about using 'fail safe' blowout preventer shutoff valves. The whole
problem is 'no shutoff'. Stop all new drilling until a fail safe blowout
preventer can be made.



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If I wasn't me I wouldn't like me either..........
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Old May 6th 10, 04:01 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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On May 5, 9:28�pm, LSMFT wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
To get rid of the oil spill, why not evaporate it by pointing curved
mirrors on barges onto it. �This would concentrate sunlight, not focus
but "concentrate" causing it to evaporate quickly. �such mirrors could
be made from simple curved sheets of aluminum or even by inflating
cylinders that are silvered on one half and transparent on the other.


How about using 'fail safe' blowout preventer shutoff valves. The whole
problem is 'no shutoff'. Stop all new drilling until a fail safe blowout
preventer can be made.

--
LSMFT

If I wasn't me I wouldn't like me either..........


Well BP cut budgets and had that refinery blow up, quite a few people
died, a year or so ago BP who owns the alaska pipeline and had cut the
repair budget to the bone, had a major leak.

their histrorical track record is cutting costs to much have accdent.

wonder if that will be the root cause again?

in any case all platfrms should have the better blowout valves used by
the rest of the world. signal from surface quits for any reason valves
slam shut

we REALLY NEED to get the US economy OFF OIL!!
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Old May 6th 10, 10:51 AM posted to sci.space.policy
Pat Flannery
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On 5/5/2010 1:28 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
To get rid of the oil spill, why not evaporate it by pointing curved
mirrors on barges onto it. This would concentrate sunlight, not focus
but "concentrate" causing it to evaporate quickly. such mirrors could
be made from simple curved sheets of aluminum or even by inflating
cylinders that are silvered on one half and transparent on the other.


Before it got hot enough to evaporate the oil, it would boil the
seawater, creating clouds of steam and blocking off the sunlight.

Pat

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Old May 6th 10, 03:06 PM posted to sci.space.policy
Jeff Findley
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"LSMFT" wrote in message
...
Frogwatch wrote:
To get rid of the oil spill, why not evaporate it by pointing curved
mirrors on barges onto it. This would concentrate sunlight, not focus
but "concentrate" causing it to evaporate quickly. such mirrors could
be made from simple curved sheets of aluminum or even by inflating
cylinders that are silvered on one half and transparent on the other.


How about using 'fail safe' blowout preventer shutoff valves. The whole
problem is 'no shutoff'. Stop all new drilling until a fail safe blowout
preventer can be made.


The well had one. It didn't work.

Jeff
--
"Take heart amid the deepening gloom
that your dog is finally getting enough cheese" - Deteriorata - National
Lampoon


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Old May 6th 10, 06:44 PM posted to sci.space.policy
Brad Guth[_3_]
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On May 5, 2:28*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
To get rid of the oil spill, why not evaporate it by pointing curved
mirrors on barges onto it. *This would concentrate sunlight, not focus
but "concentrate" causing it to evaporate quickly. *such mirrors could
be made from simple curved sheets of aluminum or even by inflating
cylinders that are silvered on one half and transparent on the other.


The oil eventually goes away via evaporation (sort of), and the
greater volumetric bulk tonnage of all that BP acid stays put (sort
of). Either way, biodiversity and even the physical environment gets
screwed.

BP and others in this Gulf of Mexico have even bigger problems than
mere blowouts and lives lost. This area could soon become the world’s
largest dead zone. Acidic and NOx saturated areas of low oxygen were
bad enough before BP spilled its guts all over the place, whereas
adding the right kinds of bugs to that contaminated area, and then
diatoms could make that Gulf area even better than before, given a few
years and no further artificial leakage or even flaring for the next
decade.

Our recently foiled OCO mission would have refined this following data
by a factor of 100 fold better resolution, as well as having improved
its accuracy, including the capability of identifying natural gaseous
and thermal emissions from those of artificial means (via coal, oil
extractions, various hydrocarbon processing and numerous other mining
that merely vents their bulk of various gaseous elements to
atmosphere). All-inclusive sweet and sour venting plus sweet/sour
flaring on behalf of extracting crude oil, whereas I wouldn’t be at
all surprised to see the global tally of 1e9 m3/day (not including
helium that’s always passed along as vented, inert flared or otherwise
distributed as the slight inert portion of natural gas consumption).

http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/idb/struts/...&s=3&d=10,6,11
Defense Meteorological Satellite Program (DMSP) Data Used to Map 2008
Waste Natural Gas Flaring [August 2009]
”National Geophysical Data Center's (NGDC) Christopher Elvidge and co-
authors have published a paper entitled, "A Fifteen Year Record of
Global Natural Gas Flaring Derived from Satellite Data" in the peer
review journal Energies. The paper can be found at http://www.mdpi.com/1996-1073/2/3/595.
Co-authors include: Edward Erwin (NGDC), staff from the Cooperative
Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences (CIRES): Daniel
Ziskin, Kimberly Baugh, Benjamin Tuttle and Tilottama Ghosh, and Dee
Pack of The Aerospace Corporation. The study was based on DMSP
nighttime lights annual cloud-free composites spanning 1994 through
2008. DMSP estimates of flared gas volumes are based on a calibration
developed with a pooled set of reported national gas flaring volumes
and data from individual flares. Flaring efficiency was calculated as
the volume of flared gas per barrel of crude oil produced. Global gas
flaring has remained largely stable over the past fifteen years, in
the range of 140 to 170 billion cubic meters (BCM). Global flaring
efficiency was in the seven to eight cubic meters per barrel from 1994
to 2005 and declined to 5.6 m3 per barrel by 2008. The 2008 gas
flaring estimate of 139 BCM represents 21% of the natural gas
consumption of the United States with a potential retail market value
of $68 billion. The 2008 flaring added more than 278 million metric
tons of carbon dioxide equivalent (CO2e) into the atmosphere.”

The cheapest part of this whole sulfur and oily muck deal is their
$75M liability limit (roughly 2.5 hours worth of BP’s corporate annual
revenue)

~ BG
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Old May 7th 10, 12:10 AM posted to sci.space.policy
Brad Guth[_3_]
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On May 5, 4:19*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On May 5, 2:33*pm, (Wayne Throop) wrote:



: Frogwatch
: To get rid of the oil spill, why not evaporate it by pointing curved
: mirrors on barges onto it. *This would concentrate sunlight, not focus
: but "concentrate" causing it to evaporate quickly. *such mirrors could
: be made from simple curved sheets of aluminum or even by inflating
: cylinders that are silvered on one half and transparent on the other.


Ooh, just like refining, only uncontained!
Fill the atmosphere over the gulf with (essentially) gasoline vapors.
I love this plan!


* * "Who could have predicted a harmless gasoline fight
* * * * * * could end in tragedy?"
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --- Derek Zoolander


Wayne Throop * *http://sheol.org/throopw


exactly what happens anyway as it normally evaporates. *With the right
catalyst, the vapor could be gathered and used to power a self powered
boom system that not only orients itself toward the sun but powers
into the spill.


It's mostly acidic and otherwise toxic muck (aka: extremely sour crude
that's nearly worthless). In other words, perhaps it was an inside
job.

~ BG
 




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